DesireeNevermind said:

Another one...

chocolate1 said:

It's the reason I clicked on it.

...and again...

NDRU said:

I always say that! It was a catchy album, and if they thought it was award worthy, why not give it to those who contributed their talents to the music

where do i start? the overrated, talentless and trashy sherryl crow winning "record of the year" over boyz 2 men who were nominated for one of their biggest hits, "i'll make love to you". celine f***ing dion winning "album of the year" over the "waiting to exhale" cd, which may well be one of the greatest soundtrack albums of all time. jill scott losing "best new artist" to some lame ass country trash called shelby finn, brandy losing "best new artist" to another trashy country bitch, leanne rimes, r kelly losing "record of the year" for "i believe i can fly" to some overrated white singer, r&b and rap awards never being televised but trailer trash country awards always being included in the telecast, mariah carey losing female vocalist awards to the likes of bonnie rait, sherryl crow, kd lang, and annie lennox, who, between the four of them, have a musical range of maybe two and a half notes. pretty much any time whitney or aretha has been nominated for best vocalist and not won.

NDRU said:

Yeah i mean PRINCE won for that shit "future baby mama" i mean come on now, i know RB is basically seen its creative side go out the door, but this song is and always was a bland typical boring song, and not even a decent Prince track.

Well there have been always a few in the BEST NEW ARTIST category

1979 TASTE OF HONEY wins over the likes of The Cars,Elvis Costello and Toto

1971 The Carpenters win over Elton John

1970 Crosby Stills and Nash win over Chicago and Led Zeppelin

the first one is a freaking travesty, the second i know the Carpenters were big but come on now, and the third, sorry, but Crosby? never saw the craze for them.

Amy Winehouse winning 5 Grammys in one night. WTF?

And where is she now?

Probably sleeping in a dumpster somewhere.

I'd rather the title read Grammy Tranvestites. It just sounds better.


anyway....



I dunno if it's an actual travesty cuz I love this chick like a play cousin who steals your clothes when they come to visit but uh...

what year was it where Mariah got nominated a gazillion times and didn't win jack shit? she even complained a little about later. it was the year of Alanis Morrisette and Mimi was not liking her at all.

DesireeNevermind said:

that was 1996. poor mariah was unfairly overlooked at the grammys that year losing to the likes of joni f***in' mitchell and that overrated alanis morrisette. it was typical of the academy though, not letting black/r&b artists win the major awards and reserving those for pop/rock acts. i mean, how old is joni mitchell, 150? she had no business even being nominated for her irrelavant folk crap.
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missreelthang said:

Yeah that's it. 1996. Not even one grammy! I could see Alanis being competition but that was rather ridiculous. And wtf! I forgot Joni Mitchel won that year too. I forgot she was alive that year.

1994 Album of the Year --- MTV Unplugged - Tony Bennett Live, wtf.

newpower99 said:

I must have missed that shit. thank goodness.

DesireeNevermind said:

Really didnt Ace of Base or Nirvana have an album out that year

http://albumofthemonth.co...s1995.html
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newpower99 said:

They give Tony Bennett one almost every time he releases an album. He even won a Grammy with Stevie Wonder (last year I believe) for his duets album. They love Tony Bennett.

comegetwild said:

Well, her personal troubles have nothing to do with her music, otherwise no one would be winning Grammies.

As for my answer, Man in the Mirror not winning anything.

[quote]"As for my answer, Man in the Mirror not winning anything."

Hey purplesweat, what song beat Man in the Mirror, do you remember?

I'll mention it again for the sake of this annual topic. John Mayer does not deserve the number of Grammy's that he has. I like dude but damn if he deserve nominations and wins for every record he puts out. The Academy is known for having their favorites.

I would like to submit Paul Simon's "Graceland" beating "Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814" back in 1990, I think it was.....That was a robbery!

missreelthang said:

Mariah Carey is shit compared to Joni Mitchell. Always has been, always will be.

midiscover said:

To PAUL SIMON! That was the end of the Grammys for me. PAUL SIMON did some little obscure album with Africans and beat out Janet when Control was EVERYWHERE. F the Grammys. Purple Rain got its just dues, so I'm not shedding any tears for Prince, either.

bboy87 said:

Don't we all, bboy!

Wowugotit said:

Exactly right... some of this stuff just boggles the mind. Mariah? Seriously? Robbed because she lost to Joni Mitchell, one of the all-time greats in rock history? She should thank whatever lucky stars got her nominated in the same category as Joni Mitchell.

NoVideo said:

Mariah is a better vocalist than Joni Mitchell. She's not a better songwriter but she is a better vocalist. Joni's hayday is long gone and let's be serious - giving an award to Joni in 1996 is the same problem that has been mentioned throughout this thread; the vets getting post-popularity awards when other artists at the height of their careers loose out. Joni? Awards in 1996? GTFOH! 1976, maybe. 1996?

BlaqueKnight said:

I see. Good to know that artists have an age limit and once they are past a certain "hayday" they are no longer capable of releasing relevent material.

Since you have such a strong opinion about it, what are your thoughts on the Joni album in question, "Turbulent Indigo", winner of the Grammy for Best Pop Album in 1995? I assume you must be familiar with it in order to cast judgment.

Or, does someone being a better vocalist automatically equate to being handed an award? And in any event, does being able to shrill in multiple octaves even make someone a better vocalist?

NoVideo said:

Its cute how you just tried to turn that around into something I didn't say. Let me correct you. I certainly don't have a problem with artists having great CDs past their hayday and winning awards for them. My problem is with the Grammy community. The voting community is very cliqué-ish and has always been, which results in these "grammy travesties". More often than not, its industry people voting on their friends rather than the music they make. These days, its more people voting for who their employers tell them to than anything. There's nothing legit about the Grammys and its consistently lost integrity year after year.
I hold to my point about Joni Mitchell, also. Do I think she's on par vocally with Mariah? HELL NO. No more than I believe Bob Dylan is on par with Luther Vandross vocally. Is she a great songwriter? No doubt. Her strengths are what they are.

BlaqueKnight said:

Gotcha... so you've never heard the album, and have no clue whether (in your mind) it is more or less deserving of recognition than Mariah's "Daydream" album.

The only travesty would have been Mariah Carey winning that award over Joni Mitchell.

Not that I think there is anything legit about the Grammy's at all - by and large I think they are a joke. And I think the award in this category should have gone to Annie Lennox. But the only travesty would have been had Mariah actually won over Joni Mitchell, Annie Lennox, The Eagles or Madonna's "Bedtime Stories."

NoVideo said:

No, you don't. We just diasgree. If you'd actually read and stop trying to "read into" what I am saying, then you'd "get me". My point was that the industry's opinions aren't usually on par with the public's. Now if you are arguing that Joni Mitchell made a better RECORD, than Mariah's Daydreaming, then I'd say that's in the opinion of the listener. If you are trying to argue that everyone was partying to "Sex Kills" in 1995, I'd say you are out of your mind and I'd be right. For a POP album, Mariah's was much more the choice of the public. you wanna check the sales charts on that? Its cute how you tried to reduce it to being just me, as if Joni was some cutting-edged artist that everybody else was listening to and I just missed her. The truth is that the industry usually consists of people who are generally of a certain peer group. This is why you'll find artists from the 70s getting more props in the 90s, artists from the 80s got more props on the 00s, etc. The people voting on them are finally of a certain age bracket that is on par with most of the voting music community. Add to that the clique-ishness of the Grammy community and the Paul Simon/Janet Jackson phenomenon is more common than it should be. So my point is that it certainly WOULD NOT have been a travesty for Mariah Carey, one of the most popular artists of 1995 to have won a grammy for best POP album - pop means popular, you know?

BlaqueKnight said:

That was indeed a travesty. Janet was robbed.

BlaqueKnight said:

That's why we have the American Music Awards - to reward the most popular in each category. They even phrase the categories "Favorites" instead of "Best".

"Best" does not mean most popular. All one needs to do is look at the Billboard Charts to see that most popular is sometimes quite horrific indeed.

Joni's album was widely acclaimed that year by many critics - whether or not people were "jamming" to Sex Kills is wholly irrelevent. The purpose of the award is to give it to the finest work, not the most popular work.