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MARIAH CAREY COVERS OBSERVER WOMAN MAGAZINE



On her role in Precious:
“I spent as much time as I could getting into it,” Carey says. “She is supposed to be exhausted, so it didn’t matter that I stayed up… I really did the best I could to morph into this woman who goes into this office every day and deals with people needing something from her, trying to get things from her, maybe being disingenuous.”

On her insecurity:
“I am very insecure about my looks, and I always have been because of being mixed race [Carey's mother is Irish-American and her father was an African-American of Venezuelan descent]. It’s not so weird now, and everyone’s accepting it in a big way, but as a child I felt very, um, out of place and didn’t feel pretty. So taking on that character and having Lee make me older in the way he did, I guess it was freeing because I didn’t have to try in any way to look pretty, and you know, when you grow up with that type of insecurity you don’t always feel pretty.”


On her family:
“I don’t want to go into my family stuff, but there were very difficult things that took place. I think certain people like to torture me because they think I’ve had it easier than I actually have and they think: ‘Oh, she’s got this, she’s got that, she’s always had everything perfect’ and it’s sooo not true. You know, I really relate to this movie in a lot of ways.”

On her racial identity:
“Usually the black community knew that I was black, but white people didn’t always – they hadn’t always experienced being around people who were half-black, half-white and who looked more white. My mum’s very, very Irish and my father was light-skinned, so I turned out the way I turned out.”

On whether she still experiences racism:
“Yes. It’ll be a mild thing that I’ll get over, but a friend said to me the other day: ‘Oh yeah, you’ll like her –she’s like you, she’s got a black husband’ [Carey married the 28-year-old actor Nick Cannon last year]. And I’m like: ‘How many times do I have to tell you – my father was black. My mother’s white. In this country that makes you black, do you understand? I know I’m very light-skinned, but stop doing that!’ It’s one of those things that the world doesn’t quite understand. When I first came to Europe, everybody was asking me: ‘Why do you always have black people in your music videos?’ And I was like, errm, how do I answer this one?”

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Reply #1 posted 01/25/10 5:29pm

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babybugz said:


“Yes. It’ll be a mild thing that I’ll get over, but a friend said to me the other day: ‘Oh yeah, you’ll like her –she’s like you, she’s got a black husband


confused

gorgeous cover by the way, i really love that photo.

thanks for posting smile
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Reply #2 posted 01/25/10 5:32pm

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babybugz said:


“Yes. It’ll be a mild thing that I’ll get over, but a friend said to me the other day: ‘Oh yeah, you’ll like her –she’s like you, she’s got a black husband


confused

gorgeous cover by the way, i really love that photo.


thanks for posting smile



very very simple looove it!
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Reply #3 posted 01/25/10 5:49pm

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I don't understand all this emphasis on her colour

How many times do I have to tell you – my father was black. My mother’s white. In this country that makes you black, do you understand. I don't think I got this one... why black and not mixed-race?

Oh yes, great pic, looking natural for a change.
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Reply #4 posted 01/25/10 5:57pm

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jiorjios said:

I don't understand all this emphasis on her colour

How many times do I have to tell you – my father was black. My mother’s white. In this country that makes you black, do you understand. I don't think I got this one... why black and not mixed-race?

Because of this...

"The United States is the only country in the world in which a white mother can have a black child but a black mother cannot have a white child."

http://www.tysknews.com/D...p_rule.htm

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Not only does the one-drop rule apply to no other group than American blacks, but apparently the rule is unique in that it is found only in the United States and not in any other nation in the world. In fact, definitions of who is black vary quite sharply from country to country, and for this reason people in other countries often express consternation about our definition. James Baldwin relates a revealing incident that occurred in 1956 at the Conference of Negro-African Writers and Artists held in Paris. The head of the delegation of writers and artists from the United States was John Davis. The French chairperson introduced Davis and then asked him why he considered himself Negro, since he certainly did not look like one. Baldwin wrote, "He is a Negro, of course, from the remarkable legal point of view which obtains in the United States, but more importantly, as he tried to make clear to his interlocutor, he was a Negro by choice and by depth of involvement--by experience, in fact."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/p...edrop.html

...Details on the "One Drop Rule" are in the links.


Sad but true.


Music for adventurous listeners


tA

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Reply #5 posted 01/26/10 5:49am

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theAudience said:

jiorjios said:

I don't understand all this emphasis on her colour

How many times do I have to tell you – my father was black. My mother’s white. In this country that makes you black, do you understand. I don't think I got this one... why black and not mixed-race?

Because of this...

"The United States is the only country in the world in which a white mother can have a black child but a black mother cannot have a white child."

http://www.tysknews.com/D...p_rule.htm

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


Not only does the one-drop rule apply to no other group than American blacks, but apparently the rule is unique in that it is found only in the United States and not in any other nation in the world. In fact, definitions of who is black vary quite sharply from country to country, and for this reason people in other countries often express consternation about our definition. James Baldwin relates a revealing incident that occurred in 1956 at the Conference of Negro-African Writers and Artists held in Paris. The head of the delegation of writers and artists from the United States was John Davis. The French chairperson introduced Davis and then asked him why he considered himself Negro, since he certainly did not look like one. Baldwin wrote, "He is a Negro, of course, from the remarkable legal point of view which obtains in the United States, but more importantly, as he tried to make clear to his interlocutor, he was a Negro by choice and by depth of involvement--by experience, in fact."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/p...edrop.html

...Details on the "One Drop Rule" are in the links.


Sad but true.


Music for adventurous listeners


tA

peace Tribal Records


I knew about the one-drop rule but I was thinking this was ancient history... OK it is still alive I get it now
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Reply #6 posted 01/26/10 2:27pm

dancerella

jiorjios said:

theAudience said:


Because of this...

"The United States is the only country in the world in which a white mother can have a black child but a black mother cannot have a white child."

http://www.tysknews.com/D...p_rule.htm

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


Not only does the one-drop rule apply to no other group than American blacks, but apparently the rule is unique in that it is found only in the United States and not in any other nation in the world. In fact, definitions of who is black vary quite sharply from country to country, and for this reason people in other countries often express consternation about our definition. James Baldwin relates a revealing incident that occurred in 1956 at the Conference of Negro-African Writers and Artists held in Paris. The head of the delegation of writers and artists from the United States was John Davis. The French chairperson introduced Davis and then asked him why he considered himself Negro, since he certainly did not look like one. Baldwin wrote, "He is a Negro, of course, from the remarkable legal point of view which obtains in the United States, but more importantly, as he tried to make clear to his interlocutor, he was a Negro by choice and by depth of involvement--by experience, in fact."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/p...edrop.html

...Details on the "One Drop Rule" are in the links.


Sad but true.


Music for adventurous listeners


tA

peace Tribal Records


I knew about the one-drop rule but I was thinking this was ancient history... OK it is still alive I get it now



I think Mariah identifies with her black side more therefore she sees herself as a black woman. Perhaps in her upbringing blacks were a bit more accepting? I'm only guessing but it doesn't bother me either way.
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Reply #7 posted 01/26/10 2:33pm

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lovely cover. love
How can I stand 2 stay where I am? / Poor butterfly who don't understand.
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Reply #8 posted 01/26/10 3:51pm

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theAudience said:

jiorjios said:

I don't understand all this emphasis on her colour

How many times do I have to tell you – my father was black. My mother’s white. In this country that makes you black, do you understand. I don't think I got this one... why black and not mixed-race?

Because of this...

"The United States is the only country in the world in which a white mother can have a black child but a black mother cannot have a white child."

http://www.tysknews.com/D...p_rule.htm

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


Not only does the one-drop rule apply to no other group than American blacks, but apparently the rule is unique in that it is found only in the United States and not in any other nation in the world. In fact, definitions of who is black vary quite sharply from country to country, and for this reason people in other countries often express consternation about our definition. James Baldwin relates a revealing incident that occurred in 1956 at the Conference of Negro-African Writers and Artists held in Paris. The head of the delegation of writers and artists from the United States was John Davis. The French chairperson introduced Davis and then asked him why he considered himself Negro, since he certainly did not look like one. Baldwin wrote, "He is a Negro, of course, from the remarkable legal point of view which obtains in the United States, but more importantly, as he tried to make clear to his interlocutor, he was a Negro by choice and by depth of involvement--by experience, in fact."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/p...edrop.html

...Details on the "One Drop Rule" are in the links.


Sad but true.


Music for adventurous listeners


tA

peace Tribal Records


Very true. nod
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Reply #9 posted 01/26/10 3:53pm

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jiorjios said:

theAudience said:


Because of this...

"The United States is the only country in the world in which a white mother can have a black child but a black mother cannot have a white child."

http://www.tysknews.com/D...p_rule.htm

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


Not only does the one-drop rule apply to no other group than American blacks, but apparently the rule is unique in that it is found only in the United States and not in any other nation in the world. In fact, definitions of who is black vary quite sharply from country to country, and for this reason people in other countries often express consternation about our definition. James Baldwin relates a revealing incident that occurred in 1956 at the Conference of Negro-African Writers and Artists held in Paris. The head of the delegation of writers and artists from the United States was John Davis. The French chairperson introduced Davis and then asked him why he considered himself Negro, since he certainly did not look like one. Baldwin wrote, "He is a Negro, of course, from the remarkable legal point of view which obtains in the United States, but more importantly, as he tried to make clear to his interlocutor, he was a Negro by choice and by depth of involvement--by experience, in fact."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/p...edrop.html

...Details on the "One Drop Rule" are in the links.


Sad but true.


Music for adventurous listeners


tA

peace Tribal Records


I knew about the one-drop rule but I was thinking this was ancient history... OK it is still alive I get it now


Are you kidding? The One Drop Rule still exist in the USA's southern region.
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Reply #10 posted 01/26/10 4:53pm

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jiorjios said:

I don't understand all this emphasis on her colour

How many times do I have to tell you – my father was black. My mother’s white. In this country that makes you black, do you understand. I don't think I got this one... why black and not mixed-race?


I've often found it strange how some people put so much emphasis on Mimi's racial makeup but I very seldom see/hear the same emphasis on Tiger Wood's racial identity. If it wasn't for his father always being by his side, I don't think Tiger would have ever admitted he was half-black.
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Reply #11 posted 01/26/10 5:04pm

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TonyVanDam said:

jiorjios said:



I knew about the one-drop rule but I was thinking this was ancient history... OK it is still alive I get it now


Are you kidding? The One Drop Rule still exist in the USA's southern region.


Sorry but I am not American:P
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