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Reply #120 posted 01/18/10 9:23pm

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She's a dumb bitch and she failed trying to imply that chinchillas and minks are pests by using the word "rodent" to describe them. News flash, whore. Not all rodents are pests. Get off that high horse, take that PELT off, and try to figure out how to keep that next album from flopping.

The Animal Liberation Front oughta make a comeback and skin her.
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Reply #121 posted 01/18/10 9:45pm

Harlepolis

Vendetta1 said:

TheSkinMechanic said:



Why is it stupid to make "shock value commercials"? they obviously work. I am far more shocked and offended that people need to see these commercials in the first place to actually make the connection between fur and extreme animal abuse.

And throwing paint on some idiots.. who gives a fuck? it's not like they're killing the dumb animals is it?


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You throw paint on me and I'm suing the hell out of you.


You throw paint on me, and you're NEVER ever gonna use those arms again hammer

Seriously though, you'll never get a positive reaction from people by bullying them, only resistance.

I've never liked PETA, and the "get over it" crap makes me resent them even more.

You're SO dead on Ivy, esp when you said that they care about animals than people.
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Reply #122 posted 01/18/10 9:55pm

Harlepolis

Dewrede said:

^ it was really ignorant of her to say 'Find a worthwhile cause '


I find it hypocritical of the folks in this thread who got bent outta shape by THAT comment from Kelis, and never even raised an eyebrow by Ingrid's remark about slavery.
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Reply #123 posted 01/19/10 4:50am

Vendetta1

TyphoonTip said:

Vendetta1 said:


But she did attack the means by which PETA chooses to promote itself and, in my opinion, she comes off no less loony than PETA does.

And, in what PETA said and used in their ads (derogatory towards blacks and hispanics) they are indefensible to me.


I guess I can't judge the extent of PETA's lunacy as they don't get a great deal of coverage in Australia. I definitely don't know about the ad campaign you mentioned. Reasonably sure that didn't make it here either, though I am curious.

I guess the thing that annoys me the most about Kelis' letter, is that she strikes me as the kind of person that refuses to be made guilty about anything she happens to enjoy. And would never reflect on her actions, and the possibility they may cause harm, simply because she defiantly (and idiotically) believes she already is conscientious.

Now, that's just an impression, and of course I have no evidence beyond this letter and could very well be wrong. But I doubt it.
The thing is Typhoon, is some people cannot be made to feel guilty about what they enjoy. Also, it's kind of a "he without sin" thing. Who are they to preach morality when they are not any better?

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Reply #124 posted 01/19/10 4:56am

Vendetta1

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[color=#ff6600:0a3ec8fcdc]She's a dumb bitch and she failed trying to imply that chinchillas and minks are pests by using the word "rodent" to describe them. News flash, whore. Not all rodents are pests. Get off that high horse, take that PELT off, and try to figure out how to keep that next album from flopping.

The Animal Liberation Front oughta make a comeback and skin her.[/color]
And your point goes right out the window when you refer to her as a dumb bitch and suggest that she should be skinned. Unless we all are living some pristine perfect life, we really oughta leave people to theirs.

I think there ought to be a People for the Ethical Treatment of People.
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Reply #125 posted 01/19/10 5:18am

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Harlepolis said:

Dewrede said:

^ it was really ignorant of her to say 'Find a worthwhile cause '


I find it hypocritical of the folks in this thread who got bent outta shape by THAT comment from Kelis, and never even raised an eyebrow by Ingrid's remark about slavery.



Slavery isn't the issue here it's about the pain, suffering and needless death of millions that is happening right now.

If she made a remark about slavery that offended you, fine be offended if you wish, but don't use that to try and dismiss an organisation that tries to make the world a better place.

Animal abuse does not cancel out the history of the slave trade - that history will still be there if the needless killing of animals stops.
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Reply #126 posted 01/19/10 5:24am

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Why is it stupid to make "shock value commercials"? they obviously work. I am far more shocked and offended that people need to see these commercials in the first place to actually make the connection between fur and extreme animal abuse.

And throwing paint on some idiots.. who gives a fuck? it's not like they're killing the dumb animals is it?


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You throw paint on me and I'm suing the hell out of you.

And how fucked up is it to call someone an idiot because they wear fur? Are people who wear leather idiots, too? What about people who eat meat?


Because killing animals for their pelts is particularly horrific and completely unjustifiable - so people who support it are, at best, idiots.

Leather is part of the meat industry which many feel is a necessary evil.
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Reply #127 posted 01/19/10 5:37am

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I think there ought to be a People for the Ethical Treatment of People.



awww come on - that's really lame.
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Reply #128 posted 01/19/10 12:38pm

Harlepolis

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Harlepolis said:



I find it hypocritical of the folks in this thread who got bent outta shape by THAT comment from Kelis, and never even raised an eyebrow by Ingrid's remark about slavery.



Slavery isn't the issue here it's about the pain, suffering and needless death of millions that is happening right now.

If she made a remark about slavery that offended you, fine be offended if you wish, but don't use that to try and dismiss an organisation that tries to make the world a better place.

Animal abuse does not cancel out the history of the slave trade - that history will still be there if the needless killing of animals stops.


So its ok for her to dismiss 500 years of oppression but not ok for us to not take her cause seriously? confused Whats wrong with this picture? You cannot equate human beings with animals,,,,even though some so-called liberals desparately want to believe otherwise.

She's passionate about her cause, fine by me, let her carry on. I don't wear fur by choice either but when you bully people as opposed to enlighten them, they'll resist you,,,,some are even crazy enough to harm you before you spill some paint on them. And when you're crazy, arrogant and stupid enough to dimiss history as you put it, people will develop deaf ears on you from that point on.
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Reply #129 posted 01/19/10 12:52pm

Harlepolis

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Vendetta1 said:



I think there ought to be a People for the Ethical Treatment of People.



awww come on - that's really lame.
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No, whats lame is what Pat Robertson and Rush Limpdick are rambling about Haiti while CHILDREN are dying by the dozens, and the fact that anybody who steps up to help get attacked for supposedly feeding a hidden agenda(and maybe some do), nevermind the fact that they're actually on the move to help PEOPLE.

Meanwhile this broad is busy on the task of only bullying CELEBRITIES to gain some fame when she could've used her organization for something worthwhile(Yes, I said it too) like I don't know um,,,,helping human beings for example?

Like say sending her organization to Haiti to help the victims and promote her cause in the process,,,,,short sighted as she as, she's probably on bended knees on Madison Ave praying to spot a celebrity with a furcoat on just to put her name on the news again.
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Reply #130 posted 01/19/10 1:16pm

Vendetta1

Harlepolis said:

TheSkinMechanic said:




Slavery isn't the issue here it's about the pain, suffering and needless death of millions that is happening right now.

If she made a remark about slavery that offended you, fine be offended if you wish, but don't use that to try and dismiss an organisation that tries to make the world a better place.

Animal abuse does not cancel out the history of the slave trade - that history will still be there if the needless killing of animals stops.


So its ok for her to dismiss 500 years of oppression but not ok for us to not take her cause seriously? confused Whats wrong with this picture? You cannot equate human beings with animals,,,,even though some so-called liberals desparately want to believe otherwise.

She's passionate about her cause, fine by me, let her carry on. I don't wear fur by choice either but when you bully people as opposed to enlighten them, they'll resist you,,,,some are even crazy enough to harm you before you spill some paint on them. And when you're crazy, arrogant and stupid enough to dimiss history as you put it, people will develop deaf ears on you from that point on.
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Reply #131 posted 01/19/10 2:24pm

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Harlepolis said:

TheSkinMechanic said:




awww come on - that's really lame.
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No, whats lame is what Pat Robertson and Rush Limpdick are rambling about Haiti while CHILDREN are dying by the dozens, and the fact that anybody who steps up to help get attacked for supposedly feeding a hidden agenda(and maybe some do), nevermind the fact that they're actually on the move to help PEOPLE.

Meanwhile this broad is busy on the task of only bullying CELEBRITIES to gain some fame when she could've used her organization for something worthwhile(Yes, I said it too) like I don't know um,,,,helping human beings for example?

Like say sending her organization to Haiti to help the victims and promote her cause in the process,,,,,short sighted as she as, she's probably on bended knees on Madison Ave praying to spot a celebrity with a furcoat on just to put her name on the news again.



PETA isn't an organisation that has the experience, resources or know-how (I don't believe I'm typing this) to help earthquake victims in other countries. I should have thought that obvious, but apparently not.

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Reply #132 posted 01/19/10 3:12pm

Vendetta1

TheSkinMechanic said:

Harlepolis said:



No, whats lame is what Pat Robertson and Rush Limpdick are rambling about Haiti while CHILDREN are dying by the dozens, and the fact that anybody who steps up to help get attacked for supposedly feeding a hidden agenda(and maybe some do), nevermind the fact that they're actually on the move to help PEOPLE.

Meanwhile this broad is busy on the task of only bullying CELEBRITIES to gain some fame when she could've used her organization for something worthwhile(Yes, I said it too) like I don't know um,,,,helping human beings for example?

Like say sending her organization to Haiti to help the victims and promote her cause in the process,,,,,short sighted as she as, she's probably on bended knees on Madison Ave praying to spot a celebrity with a furcoat on just to put her name on the news again.



PETA isn't an organisation that has the experience, resources or know-how (I don't believe I'm typing this) to help earthquake victims in other countries. I should have thought that obvious, but apparently not.

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Individuals help people around the world every day. just sayin'. shrug
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Reply #133 posted 01/19/10 8:45pm

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Harlepolis said:

TheSkinMechanic said:




Slavery isn't the issue here it's about the pain, suffering and needless death of millions that is happening right now.

If she made a remark about slavery that offended you, fine be offended if you wish, but don't use that to try and dismiss an organisation that tries to make the world a better place.

Animal abuse does not cancel out the history of the slave trade - that history will still be there if the needless killing of animals stops.


So its ok for her to dismiss 500 years of oppression but not ok for us to not take her cause seriously? confused Whats wrong with this picture? You cannot equate human beings with animals,,,,even though some so-called liberals desparately want to believe otherwise.

She's passionate about her cause, fine by me, let her carry on. I don't wear fur by choice either but when you bully people as opposed to enlighten them, they'll resist you,,,,some are even crazy enough to harm you before you spill some paint on them. And when you're crazy, arrogant and stupid enough to dimiss history as you put it, people will develop deaf ears on you from that point on.
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Reply #134 posted 01/20/10 3:24am

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So its ok for her to dismiss 500 years of oppression but not ok for us to not take her cause seriously? confused


I have no idea what she said other than 'get over it' and I do not know under what context it was said, but it clearly has nothing to do with animal abuse so why keep bringing it up?

Whats wrong with this picture? You cannot equate human beings with animals,,,,even though some so-called liberals desparately want to believe otherwise.


We are a different species of animal, and I have no wish to humanise other animals either - I just want to see a halt to endemic animal abuse.

She's passionate about her cause, fine by me, let her carry on. I don't wear fur by choice either but when you bully people as opposed to enlighten them, they'll resist you,,,,


Did you actually read the letter from Peta?

some are even crazy enough to harm you before you spill some paint on them.


If someone is crazy enough to oversee the needless and barbaric slaughter of dozens of animals and then proudly wear the results in the high street, I have no doubt that they are also crazy enough to harm someone who has the courage to object. Paint or no paint.

And when you're crazy, arrogant and stupid enough to dimiss history as you put it,


I didn't

people will develop deaf ears on you from that point on.


It's called willful ignorance.



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Reply #135 posted 01/20/10 4:58am

Vendetta1

TheSkinMechanic said:

Harlepolis said:





It's called willful ignorance.



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PETAs leader was the one that brought slavery into the picture. Why isn't Kelis allowed to comment on it? Did you see the link I posted? Who is supposed to take people like PETA seriously? They come off nuttier than Kelis does and that's saying a lot because she is batshit crazy.
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Reply #136 posted 01/20/10 6:33am

Harlepolis

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I have no idea what she said other than 'get over it' and I do not know under what context it was said, but it clearly has nothing to do with animal abuse so why keep bringing it up?


Correct, so now not only are we talking about a crazy person but a very idiotic one as well. And like Ivy mentioned earlier, she was the one who brought it up.


We are a different species of animal, and I have no wish to humanise other animals either - I just want to see a halt to endemic animal abuse.


By bullying people? lol

Did you actually read the letter from Peta?


I'm the one who started this thread so um,,,yeah.

If someone is crazy enough to oversee the needless and barbaric slaughter of dozens of animals and then proudly wear the results in the high street, I have no doubt that they are also crazy enough to harm someone who has the courage to object. Paint or no paint.


Well use your mouth, influence and money to object and wait for the feedback but when you use your HANDS on somebody to object, thats not courage, thats bullying,,,,,and in result you haven't achieved anything but stubborn resistance,,,,ignorant or not, you failed to reach your main objective.

I didn't


I wasn't referring to you in my previous post.

It's called willful ignorance.


No, its called every action has a reaction. When you speak about a history with condescension and arrogance, you'll either get attacked or get mentally blocked. Both don't work for your favor.
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Reply #137 posted 01/20/10 7:11am

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Reply #138 posted 01/20/10 10:38am

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Somebody buy me this. drooling nod biggrin
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I do nothing professionally.
I only do things for fun.

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Reply #139 posted 01/20/10 10:40am

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Somebody buy me this. drooling nod biggrin
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Reply #140 posted 01/20/10 12:03pm

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Acrylic said:



Somebody buy me this. drooling nod biggrin


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Reply #141 posted 01/20/10 12:05pm

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Vendetta1 said:

Dewrede said:

^ it was really ignorant of her to say 'Find a worthwhile cause '

as if campaigning for the wellbeing of animals and fighting cruelty against them isn't worthwhile
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It's ignorant for PETA to throw paint on people and make stupid shock value commercials, too so go after the stupidity of both but don't act like PETA is above Kelis. If that lady made the comment Kelis said she made about black people she and PETA can go to hell.


agreed that wasn't cool
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Reply #142 posted 01/20/10 12:06pm

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TheSkinMechanic said:

Vendetta1 said:

It's ignorant for PETA to throw paint on people and make stupid shock value commercials, too so go after the stupidity of both but don't act like PETA is above Kelis. If that lady made the comment Kelis said she made about black people she and PETA can go to hell.


Why is it stupid to make "shock value commercials"? they obviously work. I am far more shocked and offended that people need to see these commercials in the first place to actually make the connection between fur and extreme animal abuse.

And throwing paint on some idiots.. who gives a fuck? it's not like they're killing the dumb animals is it?


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Reply #143 posted 01/20/10 12:13pm

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why are you wacko's campaigning for fur here
did i miss something ?
has it become cool to bash us veggies with that dumb crap ?
or is it supposed to be funny ?

i fail to see the humour

it's 'bait' flipped off
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Reply #144 posted 01/20/10 12:16pm

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why are you wacko's campaigning for fur here
did i miss something here
has it become cool to bash us veggies with that dumb crap ?
or is it supposed to be funny

i fail to see the humour


I'm not campaigning for fur, but I do wear it.
I'm not campaigning for meat-intake, but I do eat it.
I'm also not by any means bashing anyone else for their beliefs. If you chose to be vegetarian and anti-fur, I think that's great for you. Stick to your beliefs. I'm nobody to judge someone else's moral values.

... I just don't mind bopping a chinchilla over the noggin to make me a scarf is all. batting eyes
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Reply #145 posted 01/20/10 12:18pm

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You would need about thirty of these killed for a fur coat.



Anyone who supports unnecessary violence, pain, death and the serious abuse of animals should count themselves lucky if all they get is a little so-called "bullying" from time to time.


I've now been convinced to join PETA.



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Reply #146 posted 01/20/10 12:20pm

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^ well said
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Reply #147 posted 01/20/10 12:23pm

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