maybe she should date michael vick.

TyphoonTip said:

my thoughts exactly

Dewrede said:

cosign!! lm surprised nobody has mentionned it before
And she's "proud" about that heffin letter ....

Well if Kelis knew what was in meat she wouldnt fucking salivate she'd vomit. And why does she feel the need to say find a "worthwile" charity, has she ever seen a fucking bunch of seals beat to death. This bitch should have to see the way the meat she salivates over is killed for her dining fucking pleasure. Go back to school Kelis get an education this time

lastdecember said:

Some people don't care how animals are killed for meat. I've seen videos of what the animals go through to provide meat and fur. Is is horrible? YES. Is it going to stop me from eating a rack-of-ribs wearing mink? NO.

Does that make ME a bad person? Well... probably. But I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

Acrylic said:

Im not saying lose sleep over it, but Kelis's ignorance to say "get a worthwhile cause to follow" i mean Kelis is pure trash and always was, now she is showing she is ignorant trash.

For those interested PETA's reply:

Dear Kelis,

I hope that this finds you well. I'm writing today because we've been inundated with phone calls and e-mails from folks alerting us to photos of you wearing a fur hat and coat while out in London over the weekend.

Please know that animals killed for their fur endure immense suffering. Foxes, minks, coyotes, and rabbits—and even dogs and cats—are bludgeoned, strangled, genitally electrocuted, and even skinned alive for their pelts. We hope that you'll take a moment to watch an undercover exposé of fur farms, hosted by Eva Mendes, at http://www.peta.org/Featu...endes.asp.

If you enjoy the look of fur, renowned designers, including Calvin Klein, Tommy Hilfiger, Stella McCartney, and Vivienne Westwood, couple fashion with compassion and use only faux fur in their lines. We hope you found this information helpful and will join countless celebrities, like Charlize Theron, Khloe Kardashian, Nia Long, Kid Sister, Pink, and Michelle Obama, in publicly swearing off fur.

Warm regards,
PETA


http://www.perezhilton.com/

mancabdriver said:

They were too nice to her my reply to her would have been

Dear Kelis

In reply to your comment "get a worthwhile cause" we have invested our time in a new cause called "find Kelis a career" though it will be tough based on your past output, we are looking forward to this challenge it will be a great one.

PETA

lastdecember said:

Their response makes her look like a ranting fool.
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mancabdriver said:

This doesn't sound like a response to her letter but the initial letter sent in which she replied. Why would they open the letter with "we've been inundated with calls and emails of photos of you wearing a fur."

There's no mention of her letter at all.

I think I will add my own comments to this 'letter':



Yes indeed, let's start there. The fact that there is no humane way to kill anything gives an intelligent person two choices: continue to support pain, suffering and the needless destruction of millions of animals or... just not.




No it's not part of life.. you can choose to stop doing it.



This is the only defence of eating meat, certainly in the western world, that holds water. It is simply a lifestyle choice. You can choose suffering and death or conservation and life.



The same 'hypocrite' argument from the same kind of idiot. Eating meat and wearing fur is not survival issue. If I was in serious peril and had no food, of course I would kill a rabbit, for example, to survive. If it's the choice between me and an animal, I would choose me. But no-one in the western world would die if everyone stopped eating meat. On the contrary, there would be a far greater surplus of food and the environment would benefit greatly.

And not all types of insulin are made from animals.

And by the way, when it comes to survival, killing animals is not "abuse", it is survival. What abuse is, is repeatedly causing unnecessary suffering.




Same argument Kelis uses for eating meat - 'I like it and simply don't care how I get it'. I'm sure paedophiles like the feel of young children next to their skin too - their enjoyment of the suffering of others does not make it right and, I DO judge you Kelis.



Kelis says she believes in preserving "endangered species" rather than just "species" - ever wondered why "species" become "endangered" Kelis?

Christ what a fucking retard.



No idea what she's going on about here - most of it makes no sense, but I get the idea that she's complaining about rats in cities for some reason.



Underpaid minorities picking vegetables?? Slavery?? WTF?? I don't think it's fine. Not many people do - what's your point?



Unless it becomes "endangered", eh Kelis?




There are many worthwhile charities and organisations who do further these causes. What has that got to do with an organisation that tries, although sometimes fails, to educate idiots like yourself that unnecessary killing and suffering is wrong?

Woooah, and now she's bringing God into it, if you believe in God, then you shold know about the second coming, "the lion will lie down with the lamb", etc etc..

If anyone else is not convinced that eating meat is wrong unless that Jesus dude gets involved, they they might like to lookie here:
http://www.jesusveg.com/index2.html



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[Edited 1/18/10 10:51am]

TheSkinMechanic said:

That website claims that Christians shouldn't eat meat as to not add to the "level of violence, misery, and death in world". Are the creators of the website conveniently forgetting all of the animal sacrifices demanded by God in the Bible? Not to mention the stories of genocide and other violent acts ordered by God in the Bible as well.

Shawnt27 said:

I don't think it's a good idea to get God involved in the debate (not least because the bible plainly states that slavery is OK), but Kelis started it, lol


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Shawnt27 said:

Don't forget the human sacrifices too!

TheSkinMechanic said:

People LOVE to forget that part

Oh well. this thread started off great.

Vendetta1 said:

Really? I thought it started with incoherent rambling which inadvertently revealed the depth of stupidity of some bimbo or other.

TheSkinMechanic said:

And what makes Kelis a bimbo?

I am against cruelty to animals and wear neither fur or leather. I do eat meat but am against inhumane treatment of those animals as well and intend to stop eating meat altogether someday. BUT, I am not going to get on some high horse as some members of PETA and some vegetarians do. Folks need to stop dictating to other people how to live their lives if they are not doing something illegal. Two wrongs do not make a right and PETA's shock tactics are fucked up.

^ it was really ignorant of her to say 'Find a worthwhile cause '

as if campaigning for the wellbeing of animals and fighting cruelty against them isn't worthwhile
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FrenchGuy said:

Dewrede said:

It's ignorant for PETA to throw paint on people and make stupid shock value commercials, too so go after the stupidity of both but don't act like PETA is above Kelis. If that lady made the comment Kelis said she made about black people she and PETA can go to hell.

Vendetta1 said:

Vendetta1 said:

Why is it stupid to make "shock value commercials"? they obviously work. I am far more shocked and offended that people need to see these commercials in the first place to actually make the connection between fur and extreme animal abuse.

And throwing paint on some idiots.. who gives a fuck? it's not like they're killing the dumb animals is it?


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TheSkinMechanic said:

I have no idea why you think people need to see those commercials to make the connection. I never have. I just don't dig fur. I never have. Who the fuck doesn't know that fur is dead animals? Who doesn't know how animals are killed? Why can't some of you wrap your minds around the fact that tons of people just don't give a fuck? Not to mention that, in my opinion, PETA seems to care more about animals than humans.

Shock value commercials don't work because PETA gets seen as fucking whackjobs. I have zero respect for them. They could get their message across better if they talked to someone like they had some damn sense instead of doing stupid shit like using someone's likeness in print ads without their permission or posting pictures of half naked women with angel wings in pictures with photoshopped cats. . They are no better than those truth people or people who lean too far to the left or right.

I know people who are against fur and are vegetarian and still hate PETA.

TheSkinMechanic said:

You throw paint on me and I'm suing the hell out of you.

And how fucked up is it to call someone an idiot because they wear fur? Are people who wear leather idiots, too? What about people who eat meat?

Vendetta1 said:

Amen!

Vendetta1 said:

For me it's not PETA v Kelis, because personally I have little time for either.

However, though I deplore some of the methods PETA uses to promote their cause; the fact is, I recognise that their cause is indeed a valid one. More than that, it is a morally sound one.

Now had Kelis chosen to attack the means by which PETA chooses promote itself; and the fact that rather than garnering support it's behaviour actually alienates people, then maybe she would have had a case.

Sadly she didn't. She chose to attack the fundamental basis for PETA's existence. Unfortunately this revealed her to be a selfish and confused individual, who clearly thinks she has a few more IQ points than she actually has.

TyphoonTip said:

But she did attack the means by which PETA chooses to promote itself and, in my opinion, she comes off no less loony than PETA does.

And, in what PETA said and used in their ads (derogatory towards blacks and hispanics) they are indefensible to me.

Vendetta1 said:

I guess I can't judge the extent of PETA's lunacy as they don't get a great deal of coverage in Australia. I definitely don't know about the ad campaign you mentioned. Reasonably sure that didn't make it here either, though I am curious.

I guess the thing that annoys me the most about Kelis' letter, is that she strikes me as the kind of person that refuses to be made guilty about anything she happens to enjoy. And would never reflect on her actions, and the possibility they may cause harm, simply because she defiantly (and idiotically) believes she already is conscientious.

Now, that's just an impression, and of course I have no evidence beyond this letter and could very well be wrong. But I doubt it.