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Reply #90 posted 01/12/10 5:07pm

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Graycap23 said:

Why announce that u are taking a break?

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Reply #91 posted 01/12/10 5:07pm

midiscover

Random fact: Janet was the first person in music history to have the most R&B #1's off one album.
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Reply #92 posted 01/12/10 5:12pm

ernestsewell

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Bey always takes breaks, I think it's the paparazzi that keeps her in the headlines. She can't even eat dinner without be photographed. She takes breaks and cruise the waters on yachts with Jay, but paparazzi is always following her, keeping her in the headlines. She should isolate herself at Neverland. LOL

It's how her stuff is released. She has videos are still coming out when she's jumping off rocks in Barbados. Then just when it dies down.....there's about a 4 month lull (that is heavenly), and BAM, she's back again after ALLEGEDLY recording her album in two-weeks (and it showed). It's a constant stream of Beyonceshit. She doesn't need to take a break, she needs to GIVE us a break.
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Reply #93 posted 01/12/10 5:18pm

trueiopian

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trueiopian said:



falloff

Just because his management was listed on the Control album doesn't mean he was managing her! Joe's management was listed on MJ's OTW and Thriller album and MJ fired him before he released OTW. What the hell do you think "Control" is about? lol

I actually bought the album when it came out, I know what the album is about (which reportedly upset her parents). Obviously there is no love lost between the Jackson clan and Joseph. None of us know the Jackson clan personally and we don't know why many things were done. All I can go by is what is listed by the artist herself in the credits. Obviously Joe wasn't involved with the recording of Control (this was the point of her leaving home to record the album), but he was still at the time CONTRACTUALLY her manager. Do I need to bring a lawyer onto the org to explain what a contract is? And as far as Beyonce (which the topic is ACTUALLY about), I am sure that Mathew has her so locked up in legal paperwork that she couldnt piss without his permission or him getting paid.
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Do you have the contract in your hands to back up these claims? You're going off the credits on the Control album that came out in '86 (assuming you have the custom copy from the year '86).

I'm going off what Janet said in many interviews lol And also a custom CD that was printed in '90 that DOESN'T have Joe's production company on it. If he was her manager he would still be on the back of the CD but he's not.
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Reply #94 posted 01/12/10 5:22pm

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trueiopian said:

totaldiva said:


I actually bought the album when it came out, I know what the album is about (which reportedly upset her parents). Obviously there is no love lost between the Jackson clan and Joseph. None of us know the Jackson clan personally and we don't know why many things were done. All I can go by is what is listed by the artist herself in the credits. Obviously Joe wasn't involved with the recording of Control (this was the point of her leaving home to record the album), but he was still at the time CONTRACTUALLY her manager. Do I need to bring a lawyer onto the org to explain what a contract is? And as far as Beyonce (which the topic is ACTUALLY about), I am sure that Mathew has her so locked up in legal paperwork that she couldnt piss without his permission or him getting paid.
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Do you have the contract in your hands to back up these claims? You're going off the credits on the Control album that came out in '86 (assuming you have the custom copy from the year '86).

I'm going off what Janet said in many interviews lol And also a custom CD that was printed in '90 that DOESN'T have Joe's production company on it. If he was her manager he would still be on the back of the CD but he's not.

lol You caught me off guard with Whitney. I have the original album and it does have Joseph Jackson Management on it. I have three people coming at me. That means my job is done. In one of the many books on Michael Jackson (I don't remember which one), the author talked about how after Control hit, he belittled Michel, who at the time still lived down the hall from Janet at Havenhurst, bragging that he still has a hitmaker under his belt with Janet(that was until he was obviously later let go). Anyone else??? Bring it on.
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Reply #95 posted 01/12/10 5:27pm

trueiopian

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trueiopian said:





Do you have the contract in your hands to back up these claims? You're going off the credits on the Control album that came out in '86 (assuming you have the custom copy from the year '86).

I'm going off what Janet said in many interviews lol And also a custom CD that was printed in '90 that DOESN'T have Joe's production company on it. If he was her manager he would still be on the back of the CD but he's not.

lol You caught me off guard with Whitney. I have the original album and it does jave Joseph Jackson Management on it. I have three people coming at me. That means my job is done.


Exactly! If Joe really managed her (like you claim) his name wouldn't have been removed on the 1990 custom copy.

So you were wrong.
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Reply #96 posted 01/12/10 5:33pm

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Reply #97 posted 01/12/10 5:43pm

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trueiopian said:

totaldiva said:


lol You caught me off guard with Whitney. I have the original album and it does jave Joseph Jackson Management on it. I have three people coming at me. That means my job is done.


Exactly! If Joe really managed her (like you claim) his name wouldn't have been removed on the 1990 custom copy.

So you were wrong.
I know you want me to be. That seems to be your life's mission, but as I said before, I was playing the album and reading it as I typed. It isn't that important for me to go back and forth with you when I have 20/20 vision and read VERY well, so if it will make your night to say I am wrong, here is my New Years gift to you. Don't spend it all in one place bored.
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Reply #98 posted 01/12/10 5:50pm

trueiopian

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trueiopian said:



Exactly! If Joe really managed her (like you claim) his name wouldn't have been removed on the 1990 custom copy.

So you were wrong.
I know you want me to be. That seems to be your life's mission, but as I said before, I was playing the album and reading it as I typed. It isn't that important for me to go back and forth with you when I have 20/20 vision and read VERY well, so if it will make your night to say I am wrong, here is my New Years gift to you. Don't spend it all in one place bored.
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Where did I say what you read was wrong? I believe what you're saying but I disagree that it's proof he managed her in the Control era (when he really didn't). The 1986-'87 custom copies DO have his production company stamped on it but the 1990 copies don't. Even IF he stopped managing her in '90 the copies should have his production company on it since he supposedly managed her when she released Control like you're claiming.
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Reply #99 posted 01/12/10 6:03pm

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Is it necessary to turn every damn thread into a Janet Jackson thread? sad
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Reply #100 posted 01/12/10 6:17pm

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Alej said:

Is it necessary to turn every damn thread into a Janet Jackson thread? sad



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Reply #101 posted 01/12/10 6:20pm

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TD3 said:

Alej said:

Is it necessary to turn every damn thread into a Janet Jackson thread? sad



lol



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Reply #102 posted 01/12/10 6:23pm

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TD3 said:




lol



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Reply #103 posted 01/12/10 6:36pm

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Alej said:

Is it necessary to turn every damn thread into a Janet Jackson thread? sad


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Reply #104 posted 01/12/10 6:43pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

Alej said:

Is it necessary to turn every damn thread into a Janet Jackson thread? sad




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Reply #105 posted 01/12/10 6:45pm

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Alej said:

ViintageJunkiie said:





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I loved that performance. That one and THIS one are my favorite performances she's done at an awards show

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Reply #106 posted 01/12/10 6:48pm

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Who is gonna wear all these damn leotards?

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Reply #107 posted 01/12/10 6:51pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

Alej said:



music


I loved that performance. That one and THIS one are my favorite performances she's done at an awards show


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Reply #108 posted 01/12/10 6:54pm

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that is one I actually loved. It was a new song and no one had heard it before. I dug it.

By the way, Kat Dyson fans, THAT guitarist is a great example of a guitarist (and bassist) with some pizzazz onstage! LOVE those two girls.
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Reply #109 posted 01/12/10 6:57pm

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ernestsewell said:

ViintageJunkiie said:


that is one I actually loved. It was a new song and no one had heard it before. I dug it.

By the way, Kat Dyson fans, THAT guitarist is a great example of a guitarist (and bassist) with some pizzazz onstage! LOVE those two girls.


I think this was her best performance at an awards show. Minus the pre-recorded vocals, the girls had energy and a stage presence like no other
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Reply #110 posted 01/12/10 7:02pm

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HonestMan13 said:

Who is gonna wear all these damn leotards?

lol

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Reply #111 posted 01/12/10 7:12pm

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ernestsewell said:

ViintageJunkiie said:


that is one I actually loved. It was a new song and no one had heard it before. I dug it.

By the way, Kat Dyson fans, THAT guitarist is a great example of a guitarist (and bassist) with some pizzazz onstage! LOVE those two girls.

MC Divinity {bassist} and Bebe {Guitarist} are NAST!!!
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Reply #112 posted 01/12/10 8:48pm

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bboy87 said:[quote]

totaldiva said:



Joe was listed as managment on the back of the Thriller album although Michael had fired him already. Freddie Demann (Joe's partner at the time) was handling affairs and Michael didn't really have a manager from 1981 to 1984




enhhhh. wrong eek
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Reply #113 posted 01/12/10 8:52pm

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Nvncible1 said:[quote]

bboy87 said:

totaldiva said:



Joe was listed as managment on the back of the Thriller album although Michael had fired him already. Freddie Demann (Joe's partner at the time) was handling affairs and Michael didn't really have a manager from 1981 to 1984




enhhhh. wrong eek

Didn't I tell we can't co-exist on TWO forums?


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Reply #114 posted 01/12/10 8:54pm

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bboy87 said:

Nvncible1 said:





enhhhh. wrong eek

Didn't I tell we can't co-exist on TWO forums?


lol



well then go get ran over somewhere eek
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Reply #115 posted 01/12/10 9:07pm

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I thought this thread was about Beyonce? Wth happened?

Back on topic though, Beyonce says she's going on a break for 6 months? What kinda break is that? That's nothing. She needs to take a good 2 year break. Give people a chance to miss her. Hopefully when she comes back from her break, however long it is, she'll actually come back and make some good music for once.
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Reply #116 posted 01/12/10 9:14pm

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Nvncible1 said:

bboy87 said:


Didn't I tell we can't co-exist on TWO forums?


lol



well then go get ran over somewhere eek

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Reply #117 posted 01/12/10 10:09pm

Timmy84

Cinnamon234 said:

I thought this thread was about Beyonce? Wth happened?

Back on topic though, Beyonce says she's going on a break for 6 months? What kinda break is that? That's nothing. She needs to take a good 2 year break. Give people a chance to miss her. Hopefully when she comes back from her break, however long it is, she'll actually come back and make some good music for once.


I agree. I just hope that she decides to go at her next album without rushing just to put out product.
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Reply #118 posted 01/12/10 10:14pm

TD3

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Cinnamon234 said:

I thought this thread was about Beyonce? Wth happened?

Back on topic though, Beyonce says she's going on a break for 6 months? What kinda break is that? That's nothing. She needs to take a good 2 year break. Give people a chance to miss her. Hopefully when she comes back from her break, however long it is, she'll actually come back and make some good music for once.


Like I said.

Didn't she say this befo'? She ain't goin' no where.

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Reply #119 posted 01/12/10 10:17pm

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Like I said, I'll give her two weeks lol
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