The difference is, most bisexual females know and accept that they are bisexual. A lot of bisexual men think they are straight and are in complete denial that they anything other than straight.

TonyVanDam said:

Danger was referring to Ray-J's friend Young Buck...NOT the ex G-Unit member Young Buck

I have no idea if he's fooled around or not and I haven't seen enough of him to even try to speculate on whether or not he has. But if he's trade, I guarantee you she doesn't know because those type of men never tell their women what they do and in those type of men's own brains, they actually believe that they are straight so there's no way in hell for her to know what he is for sure unless she walked in on him and another guy getting it on. I don't doubt for a minute that she's simply making things up.

I also agree that whatever his sexuality, it's no one's business but his own. However....and I'm not directing this at him, I'm directing it at any trade or bisexual man.....if a man so much as lets another man other than the doctor touch his dick...and then tries to tell his gay partner he's straight and is known for the word "fag" coming out of his mouth, it is our duty to bust the motherfucker out of the closet and hope he gets the worst dose of his own medicine.

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DesireeNevermind said:

DesireeNevermind said:

- I think he might be referring to those nude pics MTO had of her about a year ago; she had a hairy peach

vainandy said:

totally agree with that. It's because society is not threatned by the bisexual woman, she appears sexy, serves her purpose of baby making and is less likely to spread the aids. that is the fucked up attitude but at the same time it makes wierd sense. I think bisexual men know they are gay, but it's safer to pretend that you are straight.

TonyVanDam said:

Danger was referring to Ray-J's friend Young Buck...NOT the ex G-Unit member Young Buck

All that is true when it comes to closet queens. All of us, regardless of race, go through a closet period (usually during our teen years and 20s). Society hates gay people so much that we try to play it safe, get with women, and hope not to be hated...all while secretly wanting a dick. We usually don't go through a lot of women either because they aren't what we truly want but we get with them in order to gain acceptance from society.

But the guys I'm talking about (trade) are not turned on or attracted to a dick whatsoever. Pussy turns them on. However, a blowjob feels the same whether it comes from a woman or a man so they will let another man suck their dick. These are the type men that sleep with the drag queens also (while they are dressed in drag) because drag queens look like women. A gay guy would never sleep with a drag queen because they are attracted to dicks and masculinity.

You know how men are raping men in prison? Well, it's not the gay guys doing the raping, it's the trade. Trade are thugs, a queen wouldn't be able to force another man down and rape him (not the average ones anyway). Trade are the thugs that rape these men because no women are around to satisfy their urges so they just have to settle for a man. And when they get out of prison, they continue their behavior. A lot of them don't even have to go to prison to begin with. They may have been introduced to it by being seduced by some gay guy that said...."Let me suck your dick. It feels the same as if a woman did it and no one will ever find out". Have you ever heard a drag queen or gay guy say...."I only like straight men"? Well, those are the type guys I'm talking about but what these guys really are is trade because no real straight man fools around with a man. There just happens to be weak minded queens with no pride who will let those idiots believe they are straight but Andy ain't afraid to call the fuckers what they really are and it sure as hell ain't "straight".

But anyway, it's trade that are giving these women AIDS, not closet queens. Or for the weak minded stupid queens call them.... "a straight man that will fool around". Trade is attracted to pussy. In fact, they are probably attracted to it moreso than a straight man. The overly masculine man with the most women is usually trade. Trade has an extremely high sex drive so naturally they are going to have lots of women. And their sex drive is so high that if a woman isn't available, a man will do to suck their dick. I know it's confusing to the average straight person who has never been exposed to these men but it's a whole underground world that the straight world knows nothing about. The straight world in recent years, thinks they know and has started using the new term "downlow", but when a straight person thinks someone is downlow, it is usually a closet queen in reality and not trade. If a person looks the least bit feminine in even the slightest way, that's not downlow, that's a closet queen. Trade is more masculine than a straight man.



There are white trade also. A lot of them are usually truckers, roadies, stage hands, carnival workers, or types of men that have a job traveling on the road. Every white trade I've ever met will however, admit to me or whatever gay guy they sleep with, that they are bisexual because they know that if you fool around with another guy in any sort of way whatsoever, you are no longer straight. But yeah, every single black trade I've ever encountered will tell you they are "straight" which makes me want to vomit because I don't tolerate hypocrits.
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angel345 said:

bboy87 said:

I'm sorry. But a woman that doesn't know how to keep her hair around the love below well-groomed is f***ing snank!

That's exactly right and that's the way I see it. If you let another man suck your dick, you are just as gay as the one doing the sucking because a straight man does not do homosexual acts, period....whether it's giving or receiving.

I dropped those hypocritical bastards years ago and when I hear one of them say to me..."I'm straight but can you help me out"....and tell them "Hell no" because it's impossible for me to be gay all by myself. It takes two to tango. I will still sleep with trade these days but only on a rare occassion and the bastard has to be extremely hot. But the difference now, is I tell the bastard to unzip his pants and don't spoil it by talking.

TonyVanDam said:

ummm? lol


Do you groom your slope?

kitbradley said:

TonyVanDam said:

ummm? lol


Do you groom your slope?

banks said:

KidaDynamite said:

bboy87 said:

You sporting a baldy on your rocky mountain?

KidaDynamite said:

I have to in the name of good hygiene. Sweaty balls due to too much hair is unacceptable. I love to be clean damn it!

KidaDynamite said:

not a baldy, just the hedges are trimmed

I'm gonna perm it and call my wang Frankie Lymon

Y'all damn heatherns have done got me going off about trade up in here and now "Touched By An Angel" is on TV already in progress and I've missed half of it. Don't y'all know that I need all the religion I can get?

Those are the type of queens that I would like to slap the hell out of because they are helping those men and boosting their ego by allowing them to think they are straight. Those same "straight men" getting their dicks sucked and fucking queens up the ass, are THE biggest gay bashers in the world. They think a gay man should be grateful that he let them suck his dick (which usually ain't all that to begin with). Many of them think that gay men owe them something. No honey, that's the other way around. We're the ones giving pleasure, not them.

It's that double standard that a straight person is above a gay person which is why those men don't even want to consider themselves as even a bisexual. But they do know in the back of their mind that they aren't straight. They brag about all their women with the other guys in public. Well, when they used to tell me they were straight, I used to ask them why they don't brag about all the men that have sucked their dick and see how many of those straight guys would think they are straight after hearing that. I saw one bastard I had been with in the mall one day from a distance. He was with some other thugs and when he saw me, you should have seen his ass trying to walk faster and turn the corner. He knew good and damn well I was going to bust his ass out. That don't seem like a "straight" man to me.

bboy87 said:

I'm sorry. But a woman that doesn't know how to keep her hair around the love below well-groomed is f***ing snank!

vainandy said:

I agree with alot of your definition about lifestyle practices but I disagree that you can limit these guys to the trade category. Not to say it doesn't exist but when you are dealing with black men for the purpose of this discussion, they are often gay and hiding. These aren't guys who will fuck anything cuz they have an uncontrollable sex drive, they have their preference and they use women to hide behind. Alot of times they have a lot of women they may date but they aren't fucking them regularly which leads the woman to think her man is cheating on her with another chick when it's really a dude. I don't believe them to be more masculine than a straight men nor unfeminine like a drag queen. These are men who have become well adapted at fittin in to any situation which is why black women are at such high risks because they have no idea what they are getting and what goes on when their back is turned (no pun) . The gay guys in prison are definitely gay as they also tend to live a closet gay lifestyle on the streets. You can call them bisexual but if your preference is ass and dick and you have a woman who hardly get's it from you, then you are straight up gay. I hear ya about hypocrits and again this is society's fault because of racism/discrimination. They fear the black man whether he appears straight or gay and they have special contempt for him if he is indeed gay, unless society can make money off of him. I've been exposed to these men when I've volunteered at the aids clinic, even had them try and date me and have viewed documentaries and listened to discussions from women who have been HIV infected by their men - often times the moment they fuck without that condome they are infected and ole dude is gone! The thing is, gay in black america is not necessarily the same as gay in white america so there is this perception that the games the white gay guys are playing are the same as the black gay guys. You're dealing with different societal pressures, discrmination in both the white and black community, fear of getting medical treatment and top that with facing racism in everyday America. It aint as simple as trade.

vainandy said:

This is what I want to know because it's a question that's very seldom asked. Why is it that white women are not reporting being infected with HIV at the same rate black women are? There's more white "trade" than black because white men outnumber black men, period. And what about the black "trade" who have sex with white women? Those women don't report being infected by these men? I think I may have a reason, and this comes straight from the mouths of black men. White women are much more likely to request that the man wear a condom. Black women are less likely to require the man to where a rubber.

TonyVanDam said:

You never fail to surprise me.

SCNDLS said:

Well now, do you want make to start lying about my opinions? Or do you think it's way better that I continue to keep it real?

TonyVanDam said:

Keeping it ignant is more like it if you think MOST of the women in the world are skanks or stank (I can't tell which since you misspelled it ) cuz they don't shave their crotch. Having a preference for shaved is one thing, calling 'em skanks is dumb.
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SCNDLS said:

I said keep it "well-groomed", NOT shave! And BTW, I just have fun taking a piss out of this thread. Relax. I'm still single.