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Reply #60 posted 01/20/03 6:51am

Cloudbuster

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purpleone said:

well, okay, but do you think he's comfortable with people just staring at him like that? no more distractions like fireworks or other special effects. just the man and the music.


He may not be comfortable with it but i reckon it would do him a lot of good. And remember, he did do a record signing at the end of 2001 when his face was at its worst.
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Reply #61 posted 01/20/03 7:32am

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Cloudbuster said:

purpleone said:

well, okay, but do you think he's comfortable with people just staring at him like that? no more distractions like fireworks or other special effects. just the man and the music.


He may not be comfortable with it but i reckon it would do him a lot of good. And remember, he did do a record signing at the end of 2001 when his face was at its worst.

yep, you're right, i forgot about that one. but the only ones that wanted to wait in line for their 30 seconds with mike were die-hards and probably blinded by their love for the man.. lol.
don't need no reefer, don't need cocaine
purple music does the same to my brain
i'm high, so high
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Reply #62 posted 01/20/03 7:56am

Brother915

Cloudbuster said:

purpleone said:

think about mike's anniversary concert; where was the energy? where was his stage presence? trying to cover up his face all the time with his hair, his mic, his hands, etc. and that was on a big stage, 20 feet away from the crowd. now, picture a small set, with only a hundred people, only inches away from the stage. you think mike would appreciate that, if he would even do it?


To be fair, his face is looking a lot better these days. The man can actually smile again.



Speaking of Mike's face, DATELINE is doing a special on Feb 17th about MJ's plasic surger. This was not worthy of a thread IMO. so here's the link...

http://www.accessatlanta....ckson.html
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Reply #63 posted 01/20/03 12:37pm

mistermaxxx

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Brother915 said:

purpleone said:

mistermaxxx said:

if I was MJ's manager I'd have Him back on the Music front the right way:1)Unplugged Album&No sparklings&Fire-works straight Vocals with Tmborine,Guitars,Bass,Piano&Drums&Horns.

mike should definitely NOT do an unplugged. not anymore. man, if he'd done it during his 'dangerous' period or maybe at the beginning of the 'history' period it would have been great. now, mike looks like shit! i believe the man is only capable of singing good in the studio now; live he sings like shit! his latest performances are energy-less; not to mention his sloppy routines! he should definitely NOT do an unplugged.



I disagree with thie statement...the following is a post I issued on 4/26/02...



HOW ABOUT A MJ UNPLUGGED ALBUM!!!

You would be surprised how this could work. As a matter of fact Mike could come up with some nice strip down arrangements of some of his best songs and maybe a new song or two and just get on stage in front of a small audience(No ladies passing out screaming. No MEN passing out screaming). Just a small audience in an intimate environment. Can you imagine him dusting off a gem like "Push Me Away"from the The Jacksons album "Destiny" and peforming a nice acoustic piece of this song with Carlos Santanta playing the acoustic pieces on his acoutic guitar, THIS COULD WORK .As I've stated before, Mike's reputation as a DANCE ARTIST has concealed a secret weapon in his artistry...his vocal skills on a ballad. Then he could take that creativity and attitude to the lab and make that great artistic,introspective album that David was talking about. He can do it he just got to get to it and stop focusing on sales. That's all he seems to care about. Everybody from Quincy Jones to Stevie Wonder have been trying to state to Mike that this is a detriment to his artistry. If he'd only listen.


BRO915
4/26/02





I would love to see Michael "dust off" some of his lesser known songs and perform themn in an acoustic setting.Notice that on the setlist that I came up with,I chose songs like "Liberian Girl" and "I Can't Help It".
Right on DavidEye&Brother915.you guys are on the Money.
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Reply #64 posted 01/20/03 12:39pm

mistermaxxx

Brother915 said:

DavidEye said:

Brother915 said:

purpleone said:

mistermaxxx said:

if I was MJ's manager I'd have Him back on the Music front the right way:1)Unplugged Album&No sparklings&Fire-works straight Vocals with Tmborine,Guitars,Bass,Piano&Drums&Horns.

mike should definitely NOT do an unplugged. not anymore. man, if he'd done it during his 'dangerous' period or maybe at the beginning of the 'history' period it would have been great. now, mike looks like shit! i believe the man is only capable of singing good in the studio now; live he sings like shit! his latest performances are energy-less; not to mention his sloppy routines! he should definitely NOT do an unplugged.



I disagree with thie statement...the following is a post I issued on 4/26/02...



HOW ABOUT A MJ UNPLUGGED ALBUM!!!

You would be surprised how this could work. As a matter of fact Mike could come up with some nice strip down arrangements of some of his best songs and maybe a new song or two and just get on stage in front of a small audience(No ladies passing out screaming. No MEN passing out screaming). Just a small audience in an intimate environment. Can you imagine him dusting off a gem like "Push Me Away"from the The Jacksons album "Destiny" and peforming a nice acoustic piece of this song with Carlos Santanta playing the acoustic pieces on his acoutic guitar, THIS COULD WORK .As I've stated before, Mike's reputation as a DANCE ARTIST has concealed a secret weapon in his artistry...his vocal skills on a ballad. Then he could take that creativity and attitude to the lab and make that great artistic,introspective album that David was talking about. He can do it he just got to get to it and stop focusing on sales. That's all he seems to care about. Everybody from Quincy Jones to Stevie Wonder have been trying to state to Mike that this is a detriment to his artistry. If he'd only listen.


BRO915
4/26/02





I would love to see Michael "dust off" some of his lesser known songs and perform themn in an acoustic setting.Notice that on the setlist that I came up with,I chose songs like "Liberian Girl" and "I Can't Help It".


Man, I'll buy something like this from Mike the DAY it comes out in the store!!!
a MJ Unplug I'd be there getting tickets with that Set-List.
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Reply #65 posted 01/22/03 11:20am

BeeTellTheTrut
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mistermaxxx said:

BeeTellTheTruth said:

Personally, the number 1 reason why I never brought History because he was complaining about the media. He knows that the bigger you get, the more the media will hate on you. I hate what the media has done with him, but he has to live with it. All those angry songs on it was just bugging me and it was sounding more like noise, not music. And those two songs: Childhood (oh god, don't get me startred on that song) and YANA(that song was the WORST R. Kelly written song EVER!) were so bad, I just cannot even describe it. It had no beat, no groove, it was just two bad songs.

It would be great for the guy do just do a cd with no or one "heal the world" type song, and to have an old school R&B feel to it. I mean, make some fun damn music.

The hell with the media, they have issues, but he and Whitney do not have to write a song about it. I don't see the point, they are going to hate on them anyway.

MJ has to change in general, go back to the basics, the simple things that made him what he is. No more scream-pop songs, it was hot in the 1990's. For 2003, make something(if that ever happens) that would not be groundbreaking, but great. Something that is original, and fresh, not recycled like Janet's recent cd, you know, that one.

Dangerous is one of my favorite cds. It had it all: pop. R&B, hip hop, rock. real music. I think that was his last great cd. Vince was good, but it wasn't great. What killed Vince, imo, was those damn slow songs. They weren't slow jams, they were slow songs that depressed people listen to. A total turnoff for me.
show me one Artist that hasn't Bitched&Moan about the Media on there Records or in Public&I'll Show a Artist with no Real Career??



So you mean, if an artist didn't bitched about the media, they are not real artists? Ok, bud, that is YOUR opinion. I say, there is no point of doing songs like that. I, personally don't want to hear it. It is not music to me. If it is to you, fine, but I don't like it. History was crappy, and I wouldn't never buy the cd. That is that. I just feel that the bigger you get, the more you are hated on. I do not like how it is, but that is the reality. Mike is a strong guy and he is just living his life, regardless of what the media says about him. But putting his anger into his music is another story. I am not saying that he shouldn't do that, but I wouldn't want to buy it.
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Reply #66 posted 01/22/03 2:19pm

mistermaxxx

BeeTellTheTruth said:

mistermaxxx said:

BeeTellTheTruth said:

Personally, the number 1 reason why I never brought History because he was complaining about the media. He knows that the bigger you get, the more the media will hate on you. I hate what the media has done with him, but he has to live with it. All those angry songs on it was just bugging me and it was sounding more like noise, not music. And those two songs: Childhood (oh god, don't get me startred on that song) and YANA(that song was the WORST R. Kelly written song EVER!) were so bad, I just cannot even describe it. It had no beat, no groove, it was just two bad songs.

It would be great for the guy do just do a cd with no or one "heal the world" type song, and to have an old school R&B feel to it. I mean, make some fun damn music.

The hell with the media, they have issues, but he and Whitney do not have to write a song about it. I don't see the point, they are going to hate on them anyway.

MJ has to change in general, go back to the basics, the simple things that made him what he is. No more scream-pop songs, it was hot in the 1990's. For 2003, make something(if that ever happens) that would not be groundbreaking, but great. Something that is original, and fresh, not recycled like Janet's recent cd, you know, that one.

Dangerous is one of my favorite cds. It had it all: pop. R&B, hip hop, rock. real music. I think that was his last great cd. Vince was good, but it wasn't great. What killed Vince, imo, was those damn slow songs. They weren't slow jams, they were slow songs that depressed people listen to. A total turnoff for me.
show me one Artist that hasn't Bitched&Moan about the Media on there Records or in Public&I'll Show a Artist with no Real Career??



So you mean, if an artist didn't bitched about the media, they are not real artists? Ok, bud, that is YOUR opinion. I say, there is no point of doing songs like that. I, personally don't want to hear it. It is not music to me. If it is to you, fine, but I don't like it. History was crappy, and I wouldn't never buy the cd. That is that. I just feel that the bigger you get, the more you are hated on. I do not like how it is, but that is the reality. Mike is a strong guy and he is just living his life, regardless of what the media says about him. But putting his anger into his music is another story. I am not saying that he shouldn't do that, but I wouldn't want to buy it.
"Stranger In Moscow" was a Great cut&He lashed out on that one.some wrong some don't.every artist bitches at some point be it good or bad.
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Reply #67 posted 01/22/03 2:41pm

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So the argument now is whether anger is a worthy emotion for music? What the hell?

Music represents humanity, and that means every human emotion. Besides if music had no anger, the only music we would have is bubblegum pop.
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Reply #68 posted 01/22/03 3:13pm

mistermaxxx

jtgillia said:

So the argument now is whether anger is a worthy emotion for music? What the hell?

Music represents humanity, and that means every human emotion. Besides if music had no anger, the only music we would have is bubblegum pop.
you show why time&time again why you are truly one of the Best Posters up in this spot.Very Well Stated Man.
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Reply #69 posted 01/22/03 3:23pm

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wink Thanks Maxxx!

Besides, you gotta love it when your favorite artist just lashes out at their detractors in song. Preach on!
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