vainandy said:

It's funny you're in this thread now lol Because I wanted to say my generation (1979-1989) are buying albums for their grandparents, mothers, fathers, aunts and uncles.

I wouldn't buy my parents a fucking SuBo album if my life depended on it.
[Edited 1/4/10 12:25pm]

BlaqueKnight said:

I think it's not about proving anyone wrong. Remember, Americans love an underdog. This woman was an underdog. She was judged the minute she stepped on stage. Everyone thought Scary Mary was going to sound like a car wreck. But she did prove that she could hold her own. I think it was more than she looked like the grandma next door, and who would think Grandma Toms down the lane could belt out a great song? People don't like braggadocio, especially on a talent show. People that come out with that sort of bragging are often the ones who never make it, and are untalented. It's the ones with a bit of humility that make it through. Susan Boyle was one of those gals. She's an every day gal who hit the big time, and people love that. They put her there.

jiorjios said:

Obssessed was not massive by any standards whatsoever. It was ranked #64 on the top 40 year end charts. 64. Urban airplay wasn't much better- #48. It fared better on the rythmic charts- #22. But this is the same person that had the most played song of the decade with We Belong Together. Obssessed was sooooo far from massive, its not even funny.

She's the underdog now but when it comes to a follow-up, she's gonna be put in the circle to see if she can do similar success. The real test is the sophomore album.

Sorry, double post.
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Timmy84 said:

I wouldn't buy the album either but her covers of 'Wild Horses' and 'I Dreamed A Dream' are pretty good

Timmy84 said:

LOL, its a 3cd album. He only had to sell 330k to be eligible for platinum!

Your parents are from my generation, the generation that used to party in the clubs and skating rinks, so they would turn their nose up at it. Most of this younger generation are the ones similar to the old Lawrence Welk and Slim Whitman days when nobody got past midtempo or shook asses. And then they have the nerve to say that we're the ones getting old.

sleepyq said:

But still you think with three CDs, he'll be able to go platinum like he did with "Emancipation". If he had released, say, "MPLS Sound" or "L0tusflower" (or however he spelled it) separately and Bria's album, all three would've done up to 80,000-150,000 if we wanna be honest.

Because if the album's like 330K now, then separately the albums ain't even close to gold.

You see what I'm saying? I mean they do count multiple disc albums as multiple here.

BlaqueKnight said:

Susan Boyle at #1 in record sales was THE best thing to happen in 2009.

It's great news for some of us that wants to see the RIAA self-destruct. AFAIC, Susan is my new favorite anti-hero!

vainandy said:

Yeah that's true. Even when I hear the current scene it's like "I can't dance to it, there's no good songs, all of it is just boring beats". But yeah they would think we getting old because of what we like. My sister clowned on me calling me a grandfather because of my musical taste. I called her a grandma during Xmas because she's having hip problems and stuff.

jiorjios said:

That's as far as I go, I can admire her voice but it's not my cup of tea.

6 MJ albums in TOP 20? Amazing.


I think Prince´s done good as well considering there was no promotion.

Timmy84 said:

Wut?

The three albums are sold together. The 400k is not a combined total. Each album sold 400k. You don't have to divide anything. He and Bria sold over 1.2 million cds of MPLS/Lotus/Elixer. They are eligible for a platinum certification.

I'm not understand your case about 150k...

Timmy84 said:

TRANSLATION: Timbaland might request to produce Susan's follow-up album?

dag said:

Yes, great sales. We hope for a new album this year so they can stop selling the same songs over and over.

Just wait a few years when the baby boomer generation that was growing up during the hippie era of the 1960s as teenagers and partying in the discos as adults in the 1970s become nursing home age. The nursing homes are going to have to redo their recreational rooms, get some disco records, and put the classical records away. Playing musical chairs ain't gonna cut it then because they're gonna wanna shake ass. But don't throw the classical records away though. Save them for when the shit hop generation becomes old because then the recreational rooms are going to slow back down again. The only difference is, when they play musical chairs, instead of stopping the music and taking away a chair, they'll just fire a pistol, take away a chair, and then fight each other for the last chair.

vainandy said:

I could definitely see younger generations wanting musical chairs.

And pin the tail on the hoochie.

vainandy said:

Pin the tail on the silicone hoochie.

the world is coming 2 a end susan boyle is soo damn overhyped she not that good its like the world just crazy now and then this avatar mess aint worth all its selling we hooked on crack or something

TonyVanDam said:

Anti-Hero?

she was created by the machine itself.

minneapolisFunq said:

Thank you! If she was such an anti-hero, she would've pushed 2 million from an independent label and we know indies don't sell like that unless it's distributed by a major label lol

minneapolisFunq said:

Not true. Susan Boyle was always Susan Boyle. The only thing the music industry did was help improve this lady's wardrobe & give her a recording CONtract. Other than that, she earned her fanbase.

TonyVanDam said:

Well in a way she is kinda part of the establishment. I mean Simon Cowell got her on his label (Syco). She's in the same label with Norah Jones. I guess by anti-hero you mean she didn't hook with the industry's stars, right?

Timmy84 said:

By saying anti-hero, I meant that Susan wasn't suppose to be outselling Lady GaGa, Whitney Houston, Miley Cyrus, and any other mainstream pop artist. Again, a regular woman is #1 on the pop charts, NOT the usual image-driven female artists with/without talent.

I think it great to see the industry falling apart like THIS.

Timmy84 said:

That too.

ernestsewell said:

That was exactly my point. People who believe they are "sticking it to the man" by supporting Susan Boyle are the one's who think they are proving something. They think she's anti-pop (image and all) but truth be told, the suits on the record company side of the organization don't give a damn who anybody buys, as long as you're buying.
Anyone who buys any variation of an American I-dull, Brit I-dull or any other Idol "product" is getting something safe and not too challenging. Karaoke contestants are sometimes talented but not usually too entertaining and almost never musically risqué. These shows are not about talent. For them, its about controlling what people WATCH, not what they listen to. That's just a side bonus. Its not about music. Its not about art. People didn't put Susan Boyle there, the production company did. There are thousands of "Susan Boyles" that try out for these things all of the time. Making people believe that they have some form of control by votes is the first deception. The second is believing there is an underdog. There is no underdog on these shows. The fact that she was there...excuse me...she "made it", is very deliberate and a calculated move. They want people to watch someone like her "rise to the top" because it makes for good t.v., which is all that really matters to them.
Sure ol' girl can sing. My post is not a knock on her at all. She's merely a tool. The trick is, after her rise to the top, nobody's going to watch her; they're going to go back and watch the Idol show she came from to see the next "underdog"
Ratings; not music. F*ck 'em.

BlaqueKnight said:

There is no "they". It's just me calling Susan "anti-pop". I've already explain the reason a few posts ago.