ViintageJunkiie said:

I don't think Behind The Mask and Don't Be Messin Around was on the tape. It was on one a straight up casette tape one of those old school TDK cassette tapes

I was listening to Greg Philliganes' version of Behind The Mask, DAMN I want to hear Michael's version!

That reminds me, I gotta go revise that list of unreleased songs

bboy87 said:

LOL at the TDK tape! *flashback to me recording songs off the radio onto a tape* .. what songs do you have to add?

ViintageJunkiie said:

A whole lot. I was looking at it and realized I didn't add a lot of them. I'm gonna that this week. It's already long as hell, but it's gonna be 10x longer when I'm done with it, stuff from their 1976 recording sessions with Bobby Taylor, the Christmas song Michael recorded in 1994...it's going to be long

bboy87 said:

Damn! If only you had all these damn songs! It's like a big tease when you list them...

For those MJ fans who bought the OPUS and are dissatified:

I actually received my OPUS before Christmas but I trusted such a "prestigiuos" company as Kraken to send me a book that was undamaged, Well, it isn't. And, I have seeb many people through out the World who haven't received their OPUS, but mine came with scrapes on the leather binding on the back of the book. This is a small complaint compared to other people. Yeah, I had a dented and dirty page or two, But the scuff mark was the worst. Other than that, what can you say! WOW! It isn't a coffee table book (as I thought), it is a coffee table! There are many great photos of MJ. But be careful! On Ebay--there are two versions; one with a leather cover and one without. I think, because I bought it early, I have the leather cover--but BEWARE! Don't buy the cheaper version because for such a large book, you need a good binding and cover. The weight of it won't tolerate cheaper binding. And my leather cover is damaged. So, watch out!

bboy87 said:

Pfft. Jay Stop making me spill my drinks.

purplesweat said:

purplesweat said:

Well, maybe.

OK, just for fun, let´s put things and ideas for the hoax and agains.

For
- Mike was sick and tired of living as a Michael Jackson, all the presure and pain. He had enough.

- It is his style - pranks and disguises - that´s Mike.

- He said weird things:
Schmuley. You said you want to disappear.
MJ: I don´t want a long life... I think growin is the ugliest thing...
Schmuley. SO you would die before that happnes?
MJ Um.. I don´t want to grow old.....
Shmuley - do you think that one day you will decide to become a recluse and disappear?
MJ: Yeah
Shmuley: Why? You don´t want people to see you growing old?
MJ I can´t deal with it..... I don´t want to be seen now...like when my pictures cam up on the computer, it made me sick when I saw it...I wish I could never be photograpehd and I wish I could never be seen....
Schmuley: You don´t want to die young?
MJ You´re asking me an iteresting question. YOu wure you want my answer?
...My greatest dream that I have left - I have accomplished my dreams with music and all that ...but I don´t care about anything else....."

- The actor playing guy he replaced in Smooth Crimanal for TII was born on 29.8 and faked death. That´s just weird to me.

- and this Dave Dave guy is really weird (I just realised who he also reminded me of - La Toya, have you seen her interview with King? The way she keeps on saying Larry after each sentence, just like Dave Dave. He´s got that jacksons way of talking. AND that footage of that idiotic doctor of his was weird to me as well. Some suggested that it could be MJ disguised as well. Probably not, but it´s true that when he released that statement of his, I was just thinking to myself, why the hell does he act and speak like Mike? That was weird to me, too.

Against:
- he wouldn´t have done that to his family, unless they know, but then, Paris should have been given an Oscar.

- who did the coroner perform autopsy on? Unless, MJ paid someone to do it for him, to release a fake document.

Well, it´s all weird and one shouldn´t probably think too much about it, cause you can always come up with tons of conspiracy theories.

If by any chance he´d really fake death, I don´t think he´d come back. People would have hated him for that, he´d face tons of lawsuits and if he did that, I am sure he´d wanna be left alone for the rest of his life.


BTW what´s up with the death investigation? How come nothing´s going on. The investigation has been finished.
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dag said:

This is so beautiful, and what a beautiful young lady.

:love:Is this from the Before he was a king book? If so, I REALLY need to get it.





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^^That book is good and not expensive

bboy87 said:

Certainly possible. I hope more information comes to light.

ViintageJunkiie said:

No other evidence other than Roger's name being listed in the album credits amongst other people who worked on the album.

The guy is who is selling the photo is most likely the person who took it - probably a studio engineer or runner, most likely. And he did state that Roger was there for the recording of 'Smooth Criminal', and as you said - he's holding a guitar.....so at one stage, he must have played on the song.....and I would put money on the breakdown playing being him. (The bit that drops after the buildup with "everybody clear the area right now").

I'm going to have a dig around and see if I can find more information.

This has got to be one of the happiest I have seen Michael in concert.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related

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bboy87 said:

WaterInYourBath said:

I'll be using that in my book

bboy87 said:

Excellent. What kind of book are you writing? Sounds fun.

I seen that before

dag said:

Also the old movie he was "placed in" for that Smooth Criminal part of TII is about a guy who fakes his death.



I don't believe Dave is Mike in disguise and Murray is obviously a real person but there's strong rumours he's just an actor and what he says is actually what Mike wants him to say to the world for him (things like "I was in the wrong place at the wrong time, truth will prevail" etc)

I've also heard talk that he did it because there were big threats against his fans, like whoever was threatening him was going to target fans at his concerts.

LaToya is full of weirdness. She said at the end of his memorial (off air) that "family comes first and fans second. Mike is watching every one of you and loves you all."

Nobody signed the death certificate. Jermaine announced the death not a doctor/coroner like usual.

The memorial is just full of weird stuff, Ortega saying Mike was there less than a week ago (not true), none of his true friends present, the word "pains" in I Will Be There instead of "pain", the words "I'm alive and I'll live forever" on the big screen, Prince looking bored and chewing gum etc

Murray has gone back to work and could easily be endangering other patients if he's as inexperienced as the events on June 25th would have you believe.

I could go on but I don't know how believing you are of this so I don't wanna upset you or anything...



Yeah, I think he wouldn't risk coming back but it would be possible.



Well....

You all still on that B.S???? Michael is dead smfh.stupid. He left sooner than we all expect and we are just in shock that's all. The way his daughter was up there crying I doubt if that was fake. People going crazy. And if he faked it which I seriously doubt he better have a good ass hiding place , All hell would break loose if not.
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bboy87 said:

purplesweat said:

I don´t t believe in the hoax, but I am just thinking about what they are saying if it makes sense at all. That´s all.

You can if you want to. I am not upset or anything. I have gotten over the worst part of pain.

Wait, people think Dave Dave is Michael Jackson? So he faked his own death, but instead of retreating to some secluded spot to live a life in peace, he'd rather dress up as a burn victim and make the rounds on Larry King?

What will they think of next?

I don't know if I believe in the hoax stuff, but the things people are saying are definitely plausible at the very least.

Added to which, there's something weird about Murray. I can't quite figure out what, but something just isn't right about that guy.

Militant said:

What's to figure out? He's a corrupt doctor who put the glimmers of dollar signs in his eyes ahead of his patient's safety.

Superstition said:

No I know that, but there's something else. Something odd, something that just doesn't sit right with me. I don't know how to explain it.

Militant said:

I know what you mean.

What the hell was that? What he says makes no sense to me, the way he said it was even weirder and his eyes... Can´t explain it, too, but I can´t stand looking into his eyes and I´ve never felt that way about anyone and I don´t think it´s just because he killed our Mike.




Well, the way you put it makes sense. But, I mean, speaking just hypothetically, I think Mike would have a kick out of that - being there, nobody recognising him. If by any chance that would have been him, what he said mostly made not sense in sense of him trying to put out some kind of message EXCEPT FOR the his answer to "what don´t we know about him we should know" starting at 3:23.

That could have been considered as his "explanation" as to why he would fake his death. You know like when people commit suicide, they usually leave a letter explaining why, so that could have been that message. But don´t take me too seriously, I am just playing with this hoax idea trying to figure out if there could be any substance to that claim.
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I don't believe in the hoax thing at all. But if it gives some hope to people okay. To me I feel Mike's spirit when I play his music that's what I use to cope.

NMuzakNSoul said:

See thinking about it does bring hope, that´s true. I would be happy if he lived somewhere happily, but I don´t want that hope to overshadow my common sense, so I am just looking at some of the claims and try to look at them from all ways possible. We´ll see how long I´ll enjoy thinking about it. Probably not too long, I am just in that mode these days.


But we need something to happen regarding his death. Why the hell nothing´s going on? WHY? WHY? WHY?

dag said:

I understand how you feel and yeah nothing is happening!!!