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Reply #450 posted 01/16/10 11:10am

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I was just in my car grooving to "Remember The Time". After it ended, the DJ came on and said, "That was the late, great Michael Jackson!"

It's been almost 7 months and I'm still not used to hearing that. It still makes me sad. sad

Me, neither. I miss him so much.
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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #451 posted 01/16/10 12:34pm

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dag said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I was just in my car grooving to "Remember The Time". After it ended, the DJ came on and said, "That was the late, great Michael Jackson!"

It's been almost 7 months and I'm still not used to hearing that. It still makes me sad. sad

Me, neither. I miss him so much.
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hug

We will get through this but I think it will take US honoring his legacy and not allowing HIM to become just...another memory!

Michael Jackson was very REAL and a very REAL part of who we are and who we became to be! It is up to US to honor that...because if WE don't...the powers that be...most certainly WON'T!!!
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Reply #452 posted 01/16/10 4:07pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I was just in my car grooving to "Remember The Time". After it ended, the DJ came on and said, "That was the late, great Michael Jackson!"

It's been almost 7 months and I'm still not used to hearing that. It still makes me sad. sad

i dot think i'll ever get used to that, well not anytime soon. this is all so tragic sad
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Reply #453 posted 01/16/10 4:56pm

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Michael death will always be sad to me , he was sad to me when he was alive as well. It's just best personally that I move on from it and don't think about it long. R.I.P and Michael doesn't belong in the same sentence but it pretty much sank in for me a couple months back that he's not here anymore. He's out of his pain that's all I can say . neutral sad . I really don't have the words for it
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Reply #454 posted 01/16/10 5:15pm

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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #455 posted 01/16/10 5:17pm

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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #456 posted 01/16/10 9:26pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I was just in my car grooving to "Remember The Time". After it ended, the DJ came on and said, "That was the late, great Michael Jackson!"

It's been almost 7 months and I'm still not used to hearing that. It still makes me sad. sad


I know,it's like the days go on,and I almost forget that he is gone,and then I hear something like this,and it like I very hard slap of reality,and I become very sad. sad
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Reply #457 posted 01/16/10 11:36pm

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Reply #458 posted 01/16/10 11:54pm

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"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #459 posted 01/17/10 2:14am

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dag said:


Me, neither. I miss him so much.
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hug

We will get through this but I think it will take US honoring his legacy and not allowing HIM to become just...another memory!

Michael Jackson was very REAL and a very REAL part of who we are and who we became to be! It is up to US to honor that...because if WE don't...the powers that be...most certainly WON'T!!!

hug It´s weird to feel like this about someone you didn´t even meet and there are very few who understand this. There´s noone around me who´d understand and it hurts. You feel like you need to talk to someone about this, but you´re only left with the internet (and thank God for at least that). You either felt him or you didn´t. But if you felt him, he was real. Can´t believe that it´s been half a year already. It still hits me when I think about it. I hope to get over it one day, but one thing is for sure - there´ll never be anyone who´ll touch me the way he did. I don´t think anyone will make my jaw drop the way he did. Everything and everyone is so fake, shallow and boring in the show-business and as a person, he meant even more to me. sad
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #460 posted 01/17/10 6:30am

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There is nothing weird about your feelings. As you said, "he touched you" as he did me and many other people. I haven't heard of him being spoken in the context of the "late Michael Jackson" but that would shake me a bit if I were to hear it. Since you've mentioned it, I'll be prepared for it. Most of the time I forget (sort of) that he isn't on earth anymore, though at work it's quite difficult because we play his music a lot. But, like someone else, I was sad for Michael when he was alive at times, as well. Though it's extremely sad I am glad that the DJ's are referring to him as the "late Great" because, yes, he was, quite Great. I get my comfort in knowing that one day we will all be "late." It's just that it happened to MJ now, and we weren't ready for it.
I know that in my lifetime I won't be touched in the same way as with Michael because there isn't enough time (unless I live to be 100) and my thing started with MJ when he was a mere child, so no, I don't see it happening in that way.
I do admire very few artists (the purple one, is one) but my thing with him started in a different way.
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Reply #461 posted 01/17/10 8:16am

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some one said this was going to be released or something a few pages ago.
do they mean bootleg , official , or do they want it to be released ?
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Reply #462 posted 01/17/10 10:25am

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love love love love
This is so hot! Why isn´t this released. They need to release it!
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #463 posted 01/17/10 10:34am

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Sorry to post this here, I know it´s ridiculous but the eyes at 1:25 really look the same.



hmmm
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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #464 posted 01/17/10 11:24am

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dag said:

Sorry to post this here, I know it´s ridiculous but the eyes at 1:25 really look the same.



hmmm
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One reason I don't believe this is because there's a clear picture of him and MJ together. If they never took a picture together, I'd raise my eyebrow. But the guy DOES look like MJ in makeup. No shade
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Reply #465 posted 01/17/10 11:28am

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ViintageJunkiie said:

dag said:

Sorry to post this here, I know it´s ridiculous but the eyes at 1:25 really look the same.



hmmm
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One reason I don't believe this is because there's a clear picture of him and MJ together. If they never took a picture together, I'd raise my eyebrow. But the guy DOES look like MJ in makeup. No shade

Yeah, I know, but he could have easily have someone make him a mask that looks like him. See it is crazy, but I have to say there are few gestures and ways of talking that are just like MJ to me:



0:33 "a criminal. He caused all this..." the way he says the word criminal...
3:15 "and you know what?" - typical MJ pose...
0:16 - the way he leans down is the same as here at 0:14....


Remember, once he said "I have incredible disguises. I can fool my own mother."

Sorry, I was just giving all this hoax a thought....but it would be too hard for me to believe he´d do something like that to his family and us.
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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #466 posted 01/17/10 7:37pm

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dag said:


love love love love
This is so hot! Why isn´t this released. They need to release it!

But the look he was giving her like he wanted to snatch the extensions off her head lol
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Reply #467 posted 01/17/10 7:44pm

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Hey dag, thanks for mentioning Dave Dave. I posted some videos about that a few threads ago, but it wasn't really discussed. lol I think the notion that MJ was disguised as Dave on Larry King is probably not true, but still verrrry interesting, considering how similar Dave's elocution was to Michael's. hmmm
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Reply #468 posted 01/17/10 7:52pm

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Hey dag, thanks for mentioning Dave Dave. I posted some videos about that a few threads ago, but it wasn't really discussed. lol I think the notion that MJ was disguised as Dave on Larry King is probably not true, but still verrrry interesting, considering how similar Dave's elocution was to Michael's. hmmm

But in the back of your mind, you're wondering hmmm lol
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Reply #469 posted 01/17/10 9:07pm

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Michael Jackson and Roger Troutman in the studio supposedly during the recording of 'Smooth Criminal'.



The guy selling this photo has this to say:

This is an ORIGINAL Polaroid photo of Michael Jackson and Roger Troutman during the recording of SMOOTH CRIMINAL (see album credits) in 1986. The photo in Michael's hand is under a separate bid. This is very special and only ONE exists. You will own the ORIGINAL Polaroid and NOT a copy. Both of these men have done amazing things in music and this photo is invaluable and a fabulous collector's item.


I've often wondered what Roger's involvement on the "Bad" album was. IIRC, in the credits to the album, Roger's name is listed in the middle of a group of people who all contributed to the album. But I've never been able to find any solid evidence of what track he might have worked on, he isn't specifically credited as being on any particular track, and I certainly don't hear any vocals from him on anything.

Of course, Roger was an insanely good guitarist - is it possible that the funky rhythm guitar breakdown on 'Smooth Criminal' (which has always been my favorite part of my favorite song of my favorite album), is none other than Roger? If so.....that would be a very spooky coincidence for me, as someone who has grown up with both Michael and Zapp/Roger being amongst my absolute favorite artists.

I'd be seriously spooked if that is actually Roger playing that part. Aside from Roger's name being in the credits to the album, I've never previously considered what the connection might actually have been until I found this photo.

Are there are any guitarists on here that might be able to listen closely to the part from a technical perspective and see if it matches Roger's style and techniques? It certainly sounds like it COULD be him to me - but I'm not a guitar player.
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Reply #470 posted 01/17/10 9:10pm

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angel345 said:

WaterInYourBath said:

Hey dag, thanks for mentioning Dave Dave. I posted some videos about that a few threads ago, but it wasn't really discussed. lol I think the notion that MJ was disguised as Dave on Larry King is probably not true, but still verrrry interesting, considering how similar Dave's elocution was to Michael's. hmmm

But in the back of your mind, you're wondering hmmm lol

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Reply #471 posted 01/17/10 10:11pm

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Militant said:

Michael Jackson and Roger Troutman in the studio supposedly during the recording of 'Smooth Criminal'.



The guy selling this photo has this to say:

This is an ORIGINAL Polaroid photo of Michael Jackson and Roger Troutman during the recording of SMOOTH CRIMINAL (see album credits) in 1986. The photo in Michael's hand is under a separate bid. This is very special and only ONE exists. You will own the ORIGINAL Polaroid and NOT a copy. Both of these men have done amazing things in music and this photo is invaluable and a fabulous collector's item.


I've often wondered what Roger's involvement on the "Bad" album was. IIRC, in the credits to the album, Roger's name is listed in the middle of a group of people who all contributed to the album. But I've never been able to find any solid evidence of what track he might have worked on, he isn't specifically credited as being on any particular track, and I certainly don't hear any vocals from him on anything.

Of course, Roger was an insanely good guitarist - is it possible that the funky rhythm guitar breakdown on 'Smooth Criminal' (which has always been my favorite part of my favorite song of my favorite album), is none other than Roger? If so.....that would be a very spooky coincidence for me, as someone who has grown up with both Michael and Zapp/Roger being amongst my absolute favorite artists.

I'd be seriously spooked if that is actually Roger playing that part. Aside from Roger's name being in the credits to the album, I've never previously considered what the connection might actually have been until I found this photo.

Are there are any guitarists on here that might be able to listen closely to the part from a technical perspective and see if it matches Roger's style and techniques? It certainly sounds like it COULD be him to me - but I'm not a guitar player.


So it's in 1985-86?

Michael DID originally record Smooth Criminal in '85 then re-recorded it later. Could Roget's contribution on one of the early incarnations?
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Reply #472 posted 01/17/10 11:49pm

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bboy87 said:

Militant said:

Michael Jackson and Roger Troutman in the studio supposedly during the recording of 'Smooth Criminal'.



The guy selling this photo has this to say:



I've often wondered what Roger's involvement on the "Bad" album was. IIRC, in the credits to the album, Roger's name is listed in the middle of a group of people who all contributed to the album. But I've never been able to find any solid evidence of what track he might have worked on, he isn't specifically credited as being on any particular track, and I certainly don't hear any vocals from him on anything.

Of course, Roger was an insanely good guitarist - is it possible that the funky rhythm guitar breakdown on 'Smooth Criminal' (which has always been my favorite part of my favorite song of my favorite album), is none other than Roger? If so.....that would be a very spooky coincidence for me, as someone who has grown up with both Michael and Zapp/Roger being amongst my absolute favorite artists.

I'd be seriously spooked if that is actually Roger playing that part. Aside from Roger's name being in the credits to the album, I've never previously considered what the connection might actually have been until I found this photo.

Are there are any guitarists on here that might be able to listen closely to the part from a technical perspective and see if it matches Roger's style and techniques? It certainly sounds like it COULD be him to me - but I'm not a guitar player.


So it's in 1985-86?

Michael DID originally record Smooth Criminal in '85 then re-recorded it later. Could Roget's contribution on one of the early incarnations?


The pic is most def Captain EO era. It's clear that Roger is holding a guitar in the first pic, so he HAD to have did something musically during this session, even if it's not for Smooth Criminal. Is there any other evidence that they worked together during this era?
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Reply #473 posted 01/18/10 12:25am

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ViintageJunkiie said:

bboy87 said:



So it's in 1985-86?

Michael DID originally record Smooth Criminal in '85 then re-recorded it later. Could Roget's contribution on one of the early incarnations?


The pic is most def Captain EO era. It's clear that Roger is holding a guitar in the first pic, so he HAD to have did something musically during this session, even if it's not for Smooth Criminal. Is there any other evidence that they worked together during this era?

A friend of mine told me about it for awhile and Roger is thanked in the album's credits so you never know

Hell, I heard Randy Newman and Michael worked on a song lol
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Reply #474 posted 01/18/10 12:30am

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bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



The pic is most def Captain EO era. It's clear that Roger is holding a guitar in the first pic, so he HAD to have did something musically during this session, even if it's not for Smooth Criminal. Is there any other evidence that they worked together during this era?

A friend of mine told me about it for awhile and Roger is thanked in the album's credits so you never know

Hell, I heard Randy Newman and Michael worked on a song lol


lol

I'll even take my chances with the Newman track. I just wanna hear all these got damn songs. Give me 1978-1990 demos/unreleased songs and i won't want anything else.....besides those GOT DAMN concerts
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Reply #475 posted 01/18/10 12:33am

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ViintageJunkiie said:

bboy87 said:


A friend of mine told me about it for awhile and Roger is thanked in the album's credits so you never know

Hell, I heard Randy Newman and Michael worked on a song lol


lol

I'll even take my chances with the Newman track. I just wanna hear all these got damn songs. Give me 1978-1990 demos/unreleased songs and i won't want anything else.....besides those GOT DAMN concerts

A DAT tape of unreleased tracks from the Bad sessions is out there, but that shit ain't leakin'. After the Thriller ones leaked a couple of months ago, they keepin' shit on lock tighter than Superhead's lips on a phallus lol
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Reply #476 posted 01/18/10 12:58am

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bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



lol

I'll even take my chances with the Newman track. I just wanna hear all these got damn songs. Give me 1978-1990 demos/unreleased songs and i won't want anything else.....besides those GOT DAMN concerts

A DAT tape of unreleased tracks from the Bad sessions is out there, but that shit ain't leakin'. After the Thriller ones leaked a couple of months ago, they keepin' shit on lock tighter than Superhead's lips on a phallus lol


SMH! LMAO!

Who had the DAT tape from the Thriller sessions?
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Reply #477 posted 01/18/10 1:09am

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bboy87 said:


A DAT tape of unreleased tracks from the Bad sessions is out there, but that shit ain't leakin'. After the Thriller ones leaked a couple of months ago, they keepin' shit on lock tighter than Superhead's lips on a phallus lol


SMH! LMAO!

Who had the DAT tape from the Thriller sessions?

A couple of people had them. Some collectors had paid big bucks (thousands) for them mere weeks before they were leaked and people were PISSED off but some stuff still wasn't leaked like the final version of She's Trouble and the full version of Slapstick

Because of that leak, I wouldn't be looking for a Bad sessions tape leak
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Reply #478 posted 01/18/10 1:15am

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Sorry, I was just giving all this hoax a thought....but it would be too hard for me to believe he´d do something like that to his family and us.



His fam could easily be a part of it and he could've done it for safety reasons (threats etc)
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Reply #479 posted 01/18/10 2:27am

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ViintageJunkiie said:



SMH! LMAO!

Who had the DAT tape from the Thriller sessions?

A couple of people had them. Some collectors had paid big bucks (thousands) for them mere weeks before they were leaked and people were PISSED off but some stuff still wasn't leaked like the final version of She's Trouble and the full version of Slapstick

Because of that leak, I wouldn't be looking for a Bad sessions tape leak


DAMMIT! Do you know all the songs that were on the DAT for Thriller? I really wanna hear Behind The Mask and Don't Be Messin Around. I swear if I ever come across these DAT's.....you dont even wanna know
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