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meow85

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William Shatner -"Real"



So don't laugh, but this actually made me tear up a bit. Officially the third time The Shat moved me emotionally. Craziness, I know. Anyways, enjoy!
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Reply #1 posted 12/30/09 3:52am

Rightly

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very pretty as a young man.
prolly a great sens of humour too!
small circles, big wheels!
I've got a pretty firm grip on the obvious!
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Reply #2 posted 12/30/09 8:01am

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His autobiography is an easy-going, enjoyable yet still eye-opening and moving read. The love of his life was an alcoholic and he came home one night to find her floating dead in their pool. He also recalls one of his first "big city" moments was being chased around a hotel room by a horny old man and had no idea what was going on. No one had told him about homosexuality yet...
Won't ruin all the good bits. His album was very enjoyable. He has one of my favourite voices and yes he was a very handsome man in his youth... or more accuratley before he got fat.
I was surprised when I found out that he and Leonard Nimoy share the same heritage: Ukranian Jews. By luck they ended up being the two leads on Star Trek.
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Reply #3 posted 12/30/09 11:55am

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That's kewl.
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Reply #4 posted 01/05/10 1:21pm

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rainman1985 said:

His autobiography is an easy-going, enjoyable yet still eye-opening and moving read. The love of his life was an alcoholic and he came home one night to find her floating dead in their pool. He also recalls one of his first "big city" moments was being chased around a hotel room by a horny old man and had no idea what was going on. No one had told him about homosexuality yet...
Won't ruin all the good bits. His album was very enjoyable. He has one of my favourite voices and yes he was a very handsome man in his youth... or more accuratley before he got fat.
I was surprised when I found out that he and Leonard Nimoy share the same heritage: Ukranian Jews. By luck they ended up being the two leads on Star Trek.
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The Shat has a couple of books, none of which I've read yet. Which are you referring to? hmmm
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Reply #5 posted 01/05/10 1:25pm

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Rightly said:

very pretty as a young man.
prolly a great sens of humour too!

nod Bill was a good looking guy when he was younger.
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Reply #6 posted 01/06/10 6:40am

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meow85 said:

rainman1985 said:

His autobiography is an easy-going, enjoyable yet still eye-opening and moving read. The love of his life was an alcoholic and he came home one night to find her floating dead in their pool. He also recalls one of his first "big city" moments was being chased around a hotel room by a horny old man and had no idea what was going on. No one had told him about homosexuality yet...
Won't ruin all the good bits. His album was very enjoyable. He has one of my favourite voices and yes he was a very handsome man in his youth... or more accuratley before he got fat.
I was surprised when I found out that he and Leonard Nimoy share the same heritage: Ukranian Jews. By luck they ended up being the two leads on Star Trek.
[Edited 12/30/09 8:05am]

The Shat has a couple of books, none of which I've read yet. Which are you referring to? hmmm

"Up Til Now" I think it's the most recent.
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Reply #7 posted 01/06/10 7:02am

uPtoWnNY

His co-workers may hate his guts, but I can't get enough of Mr. Shatner. His interviews with Howard Stern are legendary.
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Reply #8 posted 01/06/10 7:40am

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uPtoWnNY said:

His co-workers may hate his guts, but I can't get enough of Mr. Shatner. His interviews with Howard Stern are legendary.

He deals with that in the book. He acknowledges his co-stars on Star Trek didn't like him (he had no idea til years later) but then brushs it off with something like "...the supporting players always over-estimate their importance. I was the lead actor...".
The strongest theme of the book is Shatner sees himself first and foremost as an Actor and he takes that very seriously.
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Reply #9 posted 01/06/10 7:47am

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His 'roast' on Comedy Central is pretty good too. When he finally comes on at the end he opens with an awesome rebuttal line. Something like, "Whilst it's nice to hear you're an inspiration and influence on people I can't help but wonder why I influenced so many fat fucking losers..."
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Reply #10 posted 01/06/10 8:04am

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rainman1985 said:

The strongest theme of the book is Shatner sees himself first and foremost as an Actor and he takes that very seriously.


That's why I love him. The dude is such a ham.
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Reply #11 posted 01/06/10 12:15pm

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He strikes me as a guy who piles on a whole lot of false hubris to hid his insecurities. He also strikes me as not terribly observant. I mean, he didn't even realize until years later that his co-Trek actors thought he was a dickhead. He and Nimoy have developed something of a friendship now, but that certainly wasn't the case when the show was in production.
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Reply #12 posted 01/06/10 1:24pm

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The whole cd is phenomenal. headbang headbang headbang
The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything.
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Reply #13 posted 01/06/10 1:41pm

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He strikes me as a guy who piles on a whole lot of false hubris to hid his insecurities. He also strikes me as not terribly observant. I mean, he didn't even realize until years later that his co-Trek actors thought he was a dickhead. He and Nimoy have developed something of a friendship now, but that certainly wasn't the case when the show was in production.


I'm not sure if it's a case of being observant or just being focussed on himself and his goals. He admits until the first film was made he hated people bringing up Star Trek to him cause he saw it an acting job he did years ago and wanted to focus on his current work. About his insecurites, he never mentions his height or wearing elevator shoes (which he did on Star Trek) and he only mentions his hairpiece in the final sentence of the book and even then he just bings it up, he doesn't admit it. He admits he didn't have many friends growing up although like most things he didn't really pay it much attention at the time. He and Nimoy bonded over his wife's alcoholism, Nimoy had his own struggles.
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Reply #14 posted 01/06/10 7:44pm

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The whole cd is phenomenal. headbang headbang headbang


Mr. Folds helped him out on it.

it is rather enjoyable
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Reply #15 posted 01/06/10 9:54pm

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lazycrockett said:




The whole cd is phenomenal. headbang headbang headbang

headbang


I've heard the whole album and yet still do not own it. One of these days I'll actually go out and buy the thing.
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Reply #16 posted 01/07/10 12:56am

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lazycrockett said:




The whole cd is phenomenal. headbang headbang headbang



OK....confessional time.

Imma HARD old school funk dude....it's just de rigueur round here. BUT....based on your recomendation, I went over to Rhapsody & spun this thing.

I HATE Ben Folds...makes my skin crawl. I love the Shat....but hardly think of him as someone that would end up in my musical rotation.

Turns out....fuck me running.....this is an enjoyable listen.

My point: THIS is what I LOVE about the ORG.....ther is NOWHERE online where a more diverse and articulate & literate musical fanbase congregate. I've lost count of how many things you have all "hipped" me to.

THE ORG....a VERY special place. Thank you.
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JamFanHot said:

lazycrockett said:




The whole cd is phenomenal. headbang headbang headbang



OK....confessional time.

Imma HARD old school funk dude....it's just de rigueur round here. BUT....based on your recomendation, I went over to Rhapsody & spun this thing.

I HATE Ben Folds...makes my skin crawl. I love the Shat....but hardly think of him as someone that would end up in my musical rotation.

Turns out....fuck me running.....this is an enjoyable listen.

My point: THIS is what I LOVE about the ORG.....ther is NOWHERE online where a more diverse and articulate & literate musical fanbase congregate. I've lost count of how many things you have all "hipped" me to.

THE ORG....a VERY special place. Thank you.


I wanna sleep with common people like you.
wink

k so i came back with the edit. I'm glad you like it It's one of my favorite cds. Though I have to say.....you gonna like ben cause this cd is all him. wink
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Reply #18 posted 01/07/10 1:38am

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JamFanHot said:

lazycrockett said:




The whole cd is phenomenal. headbang headbang headbang



OK....confessional time.

Imma HARD old school funk dude....it's just de rigueur round here. BUT....based on your recomendation, I went over to Rhapsody & spun this thing.

I HATE Ben Folds...makes my skin crawl. I love the Shat....but hardly think of him as someone that would end up in my musical rotation.

Turns out....fuck me running.....this is an enjoyable listen.

My point: THIS is what I LOVE about the ORG.....ther is NOWHERE online where a more diverse and articulate & literate musical fanbase congregate. I've lost count of how many things you have all "hipped" me to.

THE ORG....a VERY special place. Thank you.

yeahthat to everything you just said. My personal music collection has expanded in so many great ways it wouldn`t have otherwise if not for the Org. biggrin

And The Shat`s Common People just kicks my ass all over the place. headbang
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Reply #19 posted 01/07/10 4:43am

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meow85 said:

JamFanHot said:




OK....confessional time.

Imma HARD old school funk dude....it's just de rigueur round here. BUT....based on your recomendation, I went over to Rhapsody & spun this thing.

I HATE Ben Folds...makes my skin crawl. I love the Shat....but hardly think of him as someone that would end up in my musical rotation.

Turns out....fuck me running.....this is an enjoyable listen.

My point: THIS is what I LOVE about the ORG.....ther is NOWHERE online where a more diverse and articulate & literate musical fanbase congregate. I've lost count of how many things you have all "hipped" me to.

THE ORG....a VERY special place. Thank you.

yeahthat to everything you just said. My personal music collection has expanded in so many great ways it wouldn`t have otherwise if not for the Org. biggrin

And The Shat`s Common People just kicks my ass all over the place. headbang


My goodness! that is brilliant!

lol
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Reply #20 posted 01/07/10 5:00am

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http://nocna-hudba.blogsp...-2004.html wink

After his rendition of "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" on the infamous Golden Throats album (though it first appeared on the Transformed Man LP), one could argue that the world needed a new William Shatner album about as much as it needed a big-screen remake of TJ Hooker. But Shatner's back all the same with an intriguing, introspective collection of mostly spoken-word tracks that are all the more compelling when it becomes clear that Has Been is, in fact, no joke. Ben Folds played on and produced the record, creating rich, melodic, and varied pop musical backgrounds to Shatner's world-weary, boozy-suave yet thoroughly impassioned delivery. Joe Jackson, Aimee Mann, Henry Rollins, Brad Paisley, and Adrian Belew also stop by to lend their divergent talents. Highlights include the Rollins/Shatner rant "I Can't Get Behind That" and the Folds/Mann/Shatner collaboration "That's Me Trying", which tells the painful story of an attempted family reconciliation. Shatner mixes a healthy amount of self-awareness with a just a dollop of self-mockery and then combines it all with plenty of raw vulnerability to create an effect that is surprisingly touching, highly entertaining, and unlike any music you've ever heard.

01. Common People (featuring Joe Jackson)
02. It Hasn't Happened Yet
03. You'll Have Time
04. That's Me Trying (featuring Aimee Mann and Ben Folds)
05. What Have You Done
06. Together (featuring Lemon Jelly)
07. Familiar Love
08. Ideal Woman
09. Has Been
10. I Can't Get Behind That (featuring Henry Rollins)
11. Real (featuring Brad Paisley)

Awesome! lol
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Reply #21 posted 01/07/10 7:27am

uPtoWnNY

Denny Crane - one of the best TV characters!

And who could forget the legendary Priceline commercials?

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Reply #22 posted 01/07/10 5:10pm

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Marrk said:

http://nocna-hudba.blogspot.com/2007/09/william-shatner-has-been-2004.html wink

After his rendition of "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" on the infamous Golden Throats album (though it first appeared on the Transformed Man LP), one could argue that the world needed a new William Shatner album about as much as it needed a big-screen remake of TJ Hooker. But Shatner's back all the same with an intriguing, introspective collection of mostly spoken-word tracks that are all the more compelling when it becomes clear that Has Been is, in fact, no joke. Ben Folds played on and produced the record, creating rich, melodic, and varied pop musical backgrounds to Shatner's world-weary, boozy-suave yet thoroughly impassioned delivery. Joe Jackson, Aimee Mann, Henry Rollins, Brad Paisley, and Adrian Belew also stop by to lend their divergent talents. Highlights include the Rollins/Shatner rant "I Can't Get Behind That" and the Folds/Mann/Shatner collaboration "That's Me Trying", which tells the painful story of an attempted family reconciliation. Shatner mixes a healthy amount of self-awareness with a just a dollop of self-mockery and then combines it all with plenty of raw vulnerability to create an effect that is surprisingly touching, highly entertaining, and unlike any music you've ever heard.

01. Common People (featuring Joe Jackson)
02. It Hasn't Happened Yet
03. You'll Have Time
04. That's Me Trying (featuring Aimee Mann and Ben Folds)
05. What Have You Done
06. Together (featuring Lemon Jelly)
07. Familiar Love
08. Ideal Woman
09. Has Been
10. I Can't Get Behind That (featuring Henry Rollins)
11. Real (featuring Brad Paisley)

Awesome! lol

No joke, the very first time I heard That's Me Trying, I was crying by the end. Whoever said that man can't emote needs to shove a sock in it.
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Reply #23 posted 01/08/10 5:58pm

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cry
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Reply #24 posted 01/08/10 7:41pm

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cool Thanks.
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Reply #25 posted 01/09/10 12:17am

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morningsong said:

cool Thanks.

For?
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Reply #26 posted 01/09/10 7:00am

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meow85 said:

Marrk said:

http://nocna-hudba.blogspot.com/2007/09/william-shatner-has-been-2004.html wink

After his rendition of "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" on the infamous Golden Throats album (though it first appeared on the Transformed Man LP), one could argue that the world needed a new William Shatner album about as much as it needed a big-screen remake of TJ Hooker. But Shatner's back all the same with an intriguing, introspective collection of mostly spoken-word tracks that are all the more compelling when it becomes clear that Has Been is, in fact, no joke. Ben Folds played on and produced the record, creating rich, melodic, and varied pop musical backgrounds to Shatner's world-weary, boozy-suave yet thoroughly impassioned delivery. Joe Jackson, Aimee Mann, Henry Rollins, Brad Paisley, and Adrian Belew also stop by to lend their divergent talents. Highlights include the Rollins/Shatner rant "I Can't Get Behind That" and the Folds/Mann/Shatner collaboration "That's Me Trying", which tells the painful story of an attempted family reconciliation. Shatner mixes a healthy amount of self-awareness with a just a dollop of self-mockery and then combines it all with plenty of raw vulnerability to create an effect that is surprisingly touching, highly entertaining, and unlike any music you've ever heard.

01. Common People (featuring Joe Jackson)
02. It Hasn't Happened Yet
03. You'll Have Time
04. That's Me Trying (featuring Aimee Mann and Ben Folds)
05. What Have You Done
06. Together (featuring Lemon Jelly)
07. Familiar Love
08. Ideal Woman
09. Has Been
10. I Can't Get Behind That (featuring Henry Rollins)
11. Real (featuring Brad Paisley)

Awesome! lol

No joke, the very first time I heard That's Me Trying, I was crying by the end. Whoever said that man can't emote needs to shove a sock in it.


'You'll Have Time' might get on my funeral playlist. That song is so funny. lol
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Reply #27 posted 01/09/10 4:20pm

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morningsong said:

cool Thanks.

For?


For posting it.
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Reply #28 posted 01/09/10 6:03pm

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Marrk said:

meow85 said:


No joke, the very first time I heard That's Me Trying, I was crying by the end. Whoever said that man can't emote needs to shove a sock in it.


'You'll Have Time' might get on my funeral playlist. That song is so funny. lol

nod I'd seriously consider it for my own funeral, as well.
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morningsong said:

meow85 said:


For?


For posting it.

Well, then. You're welcome.
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