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PrintableTeddy...not one person who's worked with him speaks well of him. And he torched his own studio by the way.
Shame on him. | |
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You reckon if he was still alive Mike would have had words with Teddy after this? | |
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rainman1985 said: She's not a kid. If he can't talk through his problems with an 18 year old maybe he needs to learn how to better express himself. All these "that's just how black folk parent" responses are scary. If either of my folks had attacked me at that age I would have:
a) Kicked THEIR arse (I am a good seal taller than my Dad but now that I think about it even at 18 I would have been scared to hit him.) b)Disowned them. They wouldn't have got another sentence out of me til they got down on their knees and apologized. You don't get through to head strong rebellious young adults with FORCE, you just push them away. Having said all that though her bruise looks pretty minor. [Edited 12/30/09 8:17am] Sounds like this could be a case where she started to "smelling herself" and he wasn't taking it. Ted was raised in the south (Virginia I think) and I'm sure he's not going to allow his child to disrespect him. No matter how old you are, you have to respect your parents wishes. If she doesn't like what her dad says and does, she should go and make it on her own. The whipping she got from her father is menial compared to the big ass whooping life gives you. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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ScarletScandal said: daPrettyman said: Looks like Ted is an "old school" black parent. For some reason, I don't believe the "killing" part. I was gonna say. Black kids getting beat with their own toys is not news. im sayin' 
I remember my mom throwing one of her shoes across the room and the shit was flying like a boomerang. Cracked my brother right in his head. | |
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DanceWme said: ScarletScandal said: I was gonna say. Black kids getting beat with their own toys is not news. im sayin'
I remember my mom throwing one of her shoes across the room and the shit was flying like a boomerang. Cracked my brother right in his head. Shit i'm not gonna get started on some of the ingenious ways my mom and grandma put it on my ass back in the day  | |
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banks said: DanceWme said: im sayin'
I remember my mom throwing one of her shoes across the room and the shit was flying like a boomerang. Cracked my brother right in his head. Shit i'm not gonna get started on some of the ingenious ways my mom and grandma put it on my ass back in the day  Different attitudes...
I got in trouble once at school and didn't tell my Mum about it, just my sister. Later to take heat of her she blurted it out. My Mum grabbed me by the throat and started screaming in my face. I didn't want to push her away or restrain her myself so I just went "somewhere else" in my head for a good 60 seconds. Anything she said I didn't even hear and any time after that she got aggressive I tuned out. I respected my Mum a lot less after that... | |
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rainman1985 said: banks said: Shit i'm not gonna get started on some of the ingenious ways my mom and grandma put it on my ass back in the day Different attitudes...
I got in trouble once at school and didn't tell my Mum about it, just my sister. Later to take heat of her she blurted it out. My Mum grabbed me by the throat and started screaming in my face. I didn't want to push her away or restrain her myself so I just went "somewhere else" in my head for a good 60 seconds. Anything she said I didn't even hear and any time after that she got aggressive I tuned out. I respected my Mum a lot less after that... I know a lot of it is cultural. In traditional African American families, it is common to spank a child. Most of them believe in the proverb "Spare the rod and spoil the child". http://mbible.com/proverbs/13-24.htm **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Let's be clear!: IF (strong IF) this went down the way it's being reported, there is NO excuse for Teddy to break fool like that!!!
Some o y'all are trippin on her age, as if being 18 gives a parent license to beat their kids. And that "traditional African American family" bullshit don't hold water either. | |
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rainman1985 said: You reckon if he was still alive Mike would have had words with Teddy after this?
Like what? Toy guitar or Jesus juice? Space for sale... | |
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Mong said: Teddy...not one person who's worked with him speaks well of him. And he torched his own studio by the way.
Shame on him. This is terrible news, needless 2 say, no matter what actually happened. In fact, in might NOT have happened as reported. As far as what Mong says above, I've worked with TR, and he was always great 2 me, and hasn't burned me in any way. . [Edited 1/5/10 6:40am] "He's a musician's musician..." |
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He denied it happened, according 2 a statement he made 2 TMZ:
Due to recent events, I am compelled to respond in detail to accusations made against me, by my daughters.
I love my Daughters, but I will not allow my children to disrespect me in my home. Contrary to what I have been accused of, I would never beat my children. Perhaps, I should have been a stronger disciplinarian as they were growing up. I worked very hard so that my children would want for nothing. In hindsight, I see that it was a mistake to give them everything they wanted so that they could have the childhood I never had. Unfortunately, they have taken me, and the privileged life I have given them, completely for granted. Instead of being appreciative and realizing how fortunate they are, my children have an inflated sense of entitlement and expectation without having to work or earn their way. However, my 'children' are no longer children, they are adults and I am trying to instill in them values and a work ethic of their own. My mother always told me "too many grown people can't live in one house" so I encourage them to have their own homes if they cannot abide by the rules of mine. I am not an uptight Dad, I am as hip as they come but I will not tolerate being taken advantage of or disrespected, especially in my home. I've been working since the age of 14, I bought my first car by myself. Nobody gave me a car. My kids don't even remember their first car. I grew up with 6 of us in an apartment fighting over one bathroom. My kids have never had to share a bathroom, let alone a bedroom. I'm asking everyone to let this one go... I'm only being a good parent. I'm a great father and everyone who knows me, knows this is true. Thank you so much, With all my love, Teddy Riley http://www.tmz.com/2009/1...t-my-kids/ "He's a musician's musician..." |
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Since most of this doesn't add up, I'm going 2 give an example of what could've happened...
His daughters couldn't stand his girlfriend, and she insulted his daughters via Twitter (which was reported). His girlfriend and his daughters likely escalated into a full blown fight. When folks go crazy, trying 2 stop them is nearly impossible. It IS possible that TR tried 2 break up a fight that was out of control. Folks also get injured when either trying 2 break up a fight, or hold someone back when they R losing it. Just sayin... some serious drama obviously went down, and we don't know jack. . [Edited 12/30/09 12:34pm] "He's a musician's musician..." |
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DanceWme said: ScarletScandal said: I was gonna say. Black kids getting beat with their own toys is not news. im sayin'
I remember my mom throwing one of her shoes across the room and the shit was flying like a boomerang. Cracked my brother right in his head. Oh yeah those shoe days   | |
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Giovanni777 said: He denied it happened, according 2 a statement he made 2 TMZ:
Due to recent events, I am compelled to respond in detail to accusations made against me, by my daughters.
I love my Daughters, but I will not allow my children to disrespect me in my home. Contrary to what I have been accused of, I would never beat my children. Perhaps, I should have been a stronger disciplinarian as they were growing up. I worked very hard so that my children would want for nothing. In hindsight, I see that it was a mistake to give them everything they wanted so that they could have the childhood I never had. Unfortunately, they have taken me, and the privileged life I have given them, completely for granted. Instead of being appreciative and realizing how fortunate they are, my children have an inflated sense of entitlement and expectation without having to work or earn their way. However, my 'children' are no longer children, they are adults and I am trying to instill in them values and a work ethic of their own. My mother always told me "too many grown people can't live in one house" so I encourage them to have their own homes if they cannot abide by the rules of mine. I am not an uptight Dad, I am as hip as they come but I will not tolerate being taken advantage of or disrespected, especially in my home. I've been working since the age of 14, I bought my first car by myself. Nobody gave me a car. My kids don't even remember their first car. I grew up with 6 of us in an apartment fighting over one bathroom. My kids have never had to share a bathroom, let alone a bedroom. I'm asking everyone to let this one go... I'm only being a good parent. I'm a great father and everyone who knows me, knows this is true. Thank you so much, With all my love, Teddy Riley http://www.tmz.com/2009/1...t-my-kids/ Dang! His statement is what I expected. I'm glad he spoke up. I highly suspect that the kids are just spoiled brats. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: Giovanni777 said: He denied it happened, according 2 a statement he made 2 TMZ:
http://www.tmz.com/2009/1...t-my-kids/ Dang! His statement is what I expected. I'm glad he spoke up. I highly suspect that the kids are just spoiled brats. So did I | |
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Giovanni777 said: He denied it happened, according 2 a statement he made 2 TMZ:
Due to recent events, I am compelled to respond in detail to accusations made against me, by my daughters.
I love my Daughters, but I will not allow my children to disrespect me in my home. Contrary to what I have been accused of, I would never beat my children. Perhaps, I should have been a stronger disciplinarian as they were growing up. I worked very hard so that my children would want for nothing. In hindsight, I see that it was a mistake to give them everything they wanted so that they could have the childhood I never had. Unfortunately, they have taken me, and the privileged life I have given them, completely for granted. Instead of being appreciative and realizing how fortunate they are, my children have an inflated sense of entitlement and expectation without having to work or earn their way. However, my 'children' are no longer children, they are adults and I am trying to instill in them values and a work ethic of their own. My mother always told me "too many grown people can't live in one house" so I encourage them to have their own homes if they cannot abide by the rules of mine. I am not an uptight Dad, I am as hip as they come but I will not tolerate being taken advantage of or disrespected, especially in my home. I've been working since the age of 14, I bought my first car by myself. Nobody gave me a car. My kids don't even remember their first car. I grew up with 6 of us in an apartment fighting over one bathroom. My kids have never had to share a bathroom, let alone a bedroom. I'm asking everyone to let this one go... I'm only being a good parent. I'm a great father and everyone who knows me, knows this is true. Thank you so much, With all my love, Teddy Riley http://www.tmz.com/2009/1...t-my-kids/ yup. | |
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Giovanni777 said: He denied it happened, according 2 a statement he made 2 TMZ:
Due to recent events, I am compelled to respond in detail to accusations made against me, by my daughters.
I love my Daughters, but I will not allow my children to disrespect me in my home. Contrary to what I have been accused of, I would never beat my children. Perhaps, I should have been a stronger disciplinarian as they were growing up. I worked very hard so that my children would want for nothing. In hindsight, I see that it was a mistake to give them everything they wanted so that they could have the childhood I never had. Unfortunately, they have taken me, and the privileged life I have given them, completely for granted. Instead of being appreciative and realizing how fortunate they are, my children have an inflated sense of entitlement and expectation without having to work or earn their way. However, my 'children' are no longer children, they are adults and I am trying to instill in them values and a work ethic of their own. My mother always told me "too many grown people can't live in one house" so I encourage them to have their own homes if they cannot abide by the rules of mine. I am not an uptight Dad, I am as hip as they come but I will not tolerate being taken advantage of or disrespected, especially in my home. I've been working since the age of 14, I bought my first car by myself. Nobody gave me a car. My kids don't even remember their first car. I grew up with 6 of us in an apartment fighting over one bathroom. My kids have never had to share a bathroom, let alone a bedroom. I'm asking everyone to let this one go... I'm only being a good parent. I'm a great father and everyone who knows me, knows this is true. Thank you so much, With all my love, Teddy Riley That is the biggest version of THE BLAME GAME I've ever seen. He said he didn't "beat" his children. But when you come from a background where spankings aren't viewed the same as a "abuse" or "a beating", he's side stepping the truth. He also immediately launched into attacking his daughters verbally, demeaning them and saying how horrible and irresponsible and unthankful they are, then followed up by how great he is, how long he's worked, and his ethics or whatever. He's as guilty as the day is long. | |
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ernestsewell said: Giovanni777 said: He denied it happened, according 2 a statement he made 2 TMZ:
That is the biggest version of THE BLAME GAME I've ever seen. He said he didn't "beat" his children. But when you come from a background where spankings aren't viewed the same as a "abuse" or "a beating", he's side stepping the truth. He also immediately launched into attacking his daughters verbally, demeaning them and saying how horrible and irresponsible and unthankful they are, then followed up by how great he is, how long he's worked, and his ethics or whatever. He's as guilty as the day is long. ah, well, even so, every kid needs to get their ass beat by their parents at some point. he was just late to the game. | |
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errant said: ernestsewell said: That is the biggest version of THE BLAME GAME I've ever seen. He said he didn't "beat" his children. But when you come from a background where spankings aren't viewed the same as a "abuse" or "a beating", he's side stepping the truth. He also immediately launched into attacking his daughters verbally, demeaning them and saying how horrible and irresponsible and unthankful they are, then followed up by how great he is, how long he's worked, and his ethics or whatever. He's as guilty as the day is long. ah, well, even so, every kid needs to get their ass beat by their parents at some point. he was just late to the game. Yeah, sounds like he wasn't really a parent, but a bank for his children. He should have made them work growing up. I'm sure if they had made their own beds, cooked their own meals, done yard work or something like that, they wouldn't be so damned spoiled. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: errant said: ah, well, even so, every kid needs to get their ass beat by their parents at some point. he was just late to the game. Yeah, sounds like he wasn't really a parent, but a bank for his children. He should have made them work growing up. I'm sure if they had made their own beds, cooked their own meals, done yard work or something like that, they wouldn't be so damned spoiled. But do we know that they are just horribly spoiled kids? Those are his words when he's trying to defend his actions. It's not like he's writing a book with no other motive behind it. There's motive here to make himself look better than the incident in question. They could be spoiled, but he raised them, so whose fault is it at this point? If they're adults, change the fucking locks or something. And spoiled or not - no one deserves to be hit. If that one picture is true, why the fuck would ANY man, especially a father, hit a woman (or their daughter) in the fucking head???? It's outrageous. | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: I was JUST a bout to post this!
It also sucks because Teddy's daughter is one of Janets Dancers! The only black girl in Janets "Make Me" video "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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ernestsewell said: daPrettyman said: Yeah, sounds like he wasn't really a parent, but a bank for his children. He should have made them work growing up. I'm sure if they had made their own beds, cooked their own meals, done yard work or something like that, they wouldn't be so damned spoiled. But do we know that they are just horribly spoiled kids? Those are his words when he's trying to defend his actions. It's not like he's writing a book with no other motive behind it. There's motive here to make himself look better than the incident in question. They could be spoiled, but he raised them, so whose fault is it at this point? If they're adults, change the fucking locks or something. And spoiled or not - no one deserves to be hit. If that one picture is true, why the fuck would ANY man, especially a father, hit a woman (or their daughter) in the fucking head???? It's outrageous. I don't think Ted was there raising his kids like he probably should have been. Taja was the one featured on the "Another Level" album singing "Happy Song". Ted was working constantly and probably wasn't the parent he should have been. It's evident on the charts. Ted was really big until around the early 2000s. Therefore, he was touring with his various groups and writing songs and producing so, he didn't have time to raise his kids (just from what I see). As for the spanking/hitting/beating/etc. I don't know what happened. I don't have a problem with spanking. I do have a problem when it is a cycle. We don't know if this behavior is a cycle for him or not. If it is a cycle (where he beats/whips them on a regular basis, then he needs some help. However, if he is whipping her ass for talking shit to him when he is the one taking care of her, then he is being a father. Things like this are mostly cultural. I have gotten my fair share of whippings/beatings in my lifetime, however by the time I was 18, I knew to respect my parents and elders. I NEVER would curse in front of my parent or disrespect them in any way. That's because they have been respectful of me as an adult. Sure, since I've been an adult, my parents and I have had disagreements. Some of them ended with them saying "hey...I'm still ur dad/mom and I will kick ur ass for disrespecting me" and looking back, they were right. The girl is 18. She still has a LOT to learn about life. I'm sure she's playing the "grown" card (like so many of us did). She probably thinks life is a bed of roses and everyone should cater to her. If she disrespected her father, she was wrong. If he crossed the line, he was wrong. [Edited 12/30/09 14:37pm] **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Mong said: Teddy...not one person who's worked with him speaks well of him. And he torched his own studio by the way.
Shame on him. I heard about that. What's wrong with Teddy? I hope this is not true tho.  | |
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Giovanni777 said: He denied it happened, according 2 a statement he made 2 TMZ:
Due to recent events, I am compelled to respond in detail to accusations made against me, by my daughters.
I love my Daughters, but I will not allow my children to disrespect me in my home. Contrary to what I have been accused of, I would never beat my children. Perhaps, I should have been a stronger disciplinarian as they were growing up. I worked very hard so that my children would want for nothing. In hindsight, I see that it was a mistake to give them everything they wanted so that they could have the childhood I never had. Unfortunately, they have taken me, and the privileged life I have given them, completely for granted. Instead of being appreciative and realizing how fortunate they are, my children have an inflated sense of entitlement and expectation without having to work or earn their way. However, my 'children' are no longer children, they are adults and I am trying to instill in them values and a work ethic of their own. My mother always told me "too many grown people can't live in one house" so I encourage them to have their own homes if they cannot abide by the rules of mine. I am not an uptight Dad, I am as hip as they come but I will not tolerate being taken advantage of or disrespected, especially in my home. I've been working since the age of 14, I bought my first car by myself. Nobody gave me a car. My kids don't even remember their first car. I grew up with 6 of us in an apartment fighting over one bathroom. My kids have never had to share a bathroom, let alone a bedroom. I'm asking everyone to let this one go... I'm only being a good parent. I'm a great father and everyone who knows me, knows this is true. Thank you so much, With all my love, Teddy Riley http://www.tmz.com/2009/1...t-my-kids/ Great statement. I think this is more believable than what his daughters are trying to say. | |
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Giovanni777 said: He denied it happened, according 2 a statement he made 2 TMZ:
Due to recent events, I am compelled to respond in detail to accusations made against me, by my daughters.
I love my Daughters, but I will not allow my children to disrespect me in my home. Contrary to what I have been accused of, I would never beat my children. Perhaps, I should have been a stronger disciplinarian as they were growing up. I worked very hard so that my children would want for nothing. In hindsight, I see that it was a mistake to give them everything they wanted so that they could have the childhood I never had. Unfortunately, they have taken me, and the privileged life I have given them, completely for granted. Instead of being appreciative and realizing how fortunate they are, my children have an inflated sense of entitlement and expectation without having to work or earn their way. However, my 'children' are no longer children, they are adults and I am trying to instill in them values and a work ethic of their own. My mother always told me "too many grown people can't live in one house" so I encourage them to have their own homes if they cannot abide by the rules of mine. I am not an uptight Dad, I am as hip as they come but I will not tolerate being taken advantage of or disrespected, especially in my home. I've been working since the age of 14, I bought my first car by myself. Nobody gave me a car. My kids don't even remember their first car. I grew up with 6 of us in an apartment fighting over one bathroom. My kids have never had to share a bathroom, let alone a bedroom. I'm asking everyone to let this one go... I'm only being a good parent. I'm a great father and everyone who knows me, knows this is true. Thank you so much, With all my love, Teddy Riley http://www.tmz.com/2009/1...t-my-kids/ Great statement! Some people kill me with this abuse shit | |
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Giovanni777 said: He denied it happened, according 2 a statement he made 2 TMZ:
Due to recent events, I am compelled to respond in detail to accusations made against me, by my daughters.
I love my Daughters, but I will not allow my children to disrespect me in my home. Contrary to what I have been accused of, I would never beat my children. Perhaps, I should have been a stronger disciplinarian as they were growing up. I worked very hard so that my children would want for nothing. In hindsight, I see that it was a mistake to give them everything they wanted so that they could have the childhood I never had. Unfortunately, they have taken me, and the privileged life I have given them, completely for granted. Instead of being appreciative and realizing how fortunate they are, my children have an inflated sense of entitlement and expectation without having to work or earn their way. However, my 'children' are no longer children, they are adults and I am trying to instill in them values and a work ethic of their own. My mother always told me "too many grown people can't live in one house" so I encourage them to have their own homes if they cannot abide by the rules of mine. I am not an uptight Dad, I am as hip as they come but I will not tolerate being taken advantage of or disrespected, especially in my home. I've been working since the age of 14, I bought my first car by myself. Nobody gave me a car. My kids don't even remember their first car. I grew up with 6 of us in an apartment fighting over one bathroom. My kids have never had to share a bathroom, let alone a bedroom. I'm asking everyone to let this one go... I'm only being a good parent. I'm a great father and everyone who knows me, knows this is true. Thank you so much, With all my love, Teddy Riley http://www.tmz.com/2009/1...t-my-kids/  I'm glad he admitted he was wrong. Beat their asses, Teddy! Beat 'em! Pain is a great teacher, so let it do its job. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: Giovanni777 said: He denied it happened, according 2 a statement he made 2 TMZ:
http://www.tmz.com/2009/1...t-my-kids/ I'm glad he admitted he was wrong. Beat their asses, Teddy! Beat 'em! Pain is a great teacher, so let it do its job. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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No, Errant, not every kid deserves to get beaten by their parents. What is WRONG with you? That is child abuse. Most musicians that are men don't raise their kids. They are too busy out touring, in the studio, etc. Those kids probably didn't see Teddy that much growing up and really to be honest, all he could be was a bank account to them. And if they didn't like the gf, I bet there was a damn good reason. He had no right to put his hands on them. who cares if that bruise was serious or not? It did emotional damage I am sure. "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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So if he beat their asses like they claimed he did, How come his ass ain't in Jail ? | |
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