I know that "Joy and Pain" was used by a few hip hop songs in the past. Okay, so I'm listening to the song today, and near the end, there's a "Hey hey heeeeey hey aaayyyyy hey" type ad-lib. It got my attention. I'm like....I've heard that before.

Then I remembered Arrested Development's "Mr. Wendel". That type of ad-lib is throughout the song. I'm not sure if it's a sample, or a resung line from the Maze song, or just a happy coincidence. Thoughts?

I think so, but it's not credited. Speech "borrowed" riffs and catch phrases on that whole album and they aren't credited as samples.

daPrettyman said:

Yeah, he "borrowed" the "Tennessee" line from Prince too, and ended up paying $100,000 to PRN for it.

ernestsewell said:

What line ? I know the song was called Tennessee...Did he sample sumthin from Alphabet St ?
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banks said:

Yeah the line: "2 Tennessee..."
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ernestsewell said:

I take it that the slowed down vocal is Prince?

daPrettyman said:

Yes.

daPrettyman said:

Ya'll jokin, right?

"to Tennessee" is throughout the song, in a near regular Prince voice, a bit higher, and a lower one, as well as the one at the end of the song. Speech never asked for the rights for it, and viola...got sued. They settled for $100,000.

ernestsewell said:

No, I didn't know it. I don't doubt that it's P or that he sued. I'm sure he sued a few people that didn't pay to use his samples.

I wonder did "Top Chef" have to pay him for sampling "Round and Round"?

hmmm...I would say that it just happens to sound the same.
It's not really similar enough, to my ears, to be anything other than coincidence.
I do love that 79 years,45 months,3 days,6 hours,12 seconds album,though.(or whatever it's called)