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Reply #30 posted 12/16/09 1:28pm

SPYZFAN1

Co-sign with Giovanni777.

"True To Myself" was a great CD and probably his best. His CD came out at the right time too. Maxwell, Ms. Badu, Christion, Chico Debarge, Myron (and our boy P) all had new joints out around that time. It was such a pleasure to watch "Planet Groove" or turn on the radio and hear some real music again.

"Femininity", "I'll Be There" and "Let's Stay Together" are the best tracks on his debut.
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Reply #31 posted 12/16/09 2:50pm

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Um, because he's nowhere NEAR as good at the two you just mentioned?
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Reply #32 posted 12/16/09 3:10pm

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Giovanni777 said:

mcw00 said:

I agree with those who say Benet failed to put out a solid album and that his sound was rather bland. He has a voice and some aesthetic appeal, but when you compare his early albums against the other two mentioned artists-he just wasn't as interesting. They stepped out further on a limb with their debuts and follow ups, whereas he stuck to nice middle of the road quiet storm.


WHAT??!!

Please tell me U never heard his 'True To Myself' album.

That was a FANTASTIC album, with diverse styles, and a bold approach.

Unfortunately, he totally abandoned that vibe, and his following albums were more as U described.

Do yourself a favor, and get the 'True To Myself' CD.

Specifically, these songs:

"True To Myself"
"Chains"
"More Than Just a Girlfriend"
"What if We Was Cool"
and his cover of the Sly classic, "If You Want Me To Stay"...

HERE:

http://www.lala.com/#albu...5171035549

Peace.

~G


I am very familiar with the album and all due respect to your opinion- I don't find it interesting at all. In my opinion it is middle of the road r&b just like what we were hearing at the time from acts like Kenny Latimore. Nice sweet songs, nothing terribly special.

Maxwell and Dangelo had debuts that I feel, had no peer at the time. There was no other record out like Urban Hang Suite or Brown Sugar. That's why those two developed the strong followings they have. They were "new" and "different" even with the old soul elements, they had a new flavor that wasn't standard quiet storm fare. I dont know his catalouge from front to back but I have never heard anything from Benet that was nonstandard.
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Reply #33 posted 12/16/09 3:38pm

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Reply #34 posted 12/16/09 4:43pm

ThreadBare

"True to Myself" has some KILLER tracks on it. By the time "A Day in the Life" dropped, tracks like "When You Think of Me" (though really cool) seemed to be about his success. I found that latter album to be a little less focused and a little weaker.

Eric has an awesome voice. He should be doing more and better with it, IMO. But, it's pretty hard to get good publicity after you've been labeled the Dude Who Cheated on Halle. shrug
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Reply #35 posted 12/16/09 4:52pm

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I really like Eric's work. Solid singer, solid music... love "Be Myself Again" and his cover of "Superwoman" with Boney James.
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Reply #36 posted 12/16/09 8:03pm

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ButterscotchPimp said:

Um, because he's nowhere NEAR as good at the two you just mentioned?

That was I was coming to say. He's not as good as Maxwell and he's nowhere remotely close to D'Angelo.
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Reply #37 posted 12/16/09 8:06pm

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scriptgirl said:

Before anyone starts in, yes, I know all men are vastly different singers, yet all 3 became well known with the neo soul movement. But while Maxwell and D’Angelo became superstars, Eric didn’t and I am curious why. I am not a fan of his music and to tell you the truth, I have never known anyone that was a fan of his.

So, thoughts as to why he never really blew up? Or maybe he did and I wasn’t watching.

cause he cheated on halle berry
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Reply #38 posted 12/16/09 9:26pm

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Great Question... Easy Answer.. has nothing to Do with Halle in my Opinion..

THe Boy has the Skillz. He's just Comfortable. He doesn't challenge himself. Plays it Safe.

The Others you mentioned dig being creative more than Eric who just Digs being good. We here at the Org.. thrive on the inspiring types ; )
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Reply #39 posted 12/17/09 1:23am

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twistedeargasm said:

Great Question... Easy Answer.. has nothing to Do with Halle in my Opinion..

THe Boy has the Skillz. He's just Comfortable. He doesn't challenge himself. Plays it Safe.

The Others you mentioned dig being creative more than Eric who just Digs being good. We here at the Org.. thrive on the inspiring types ; )

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Reply #40 posted 12/17/09 5:01am

Mong

Giovanni777 said:

mcw00 said:

I agree with those who say Benet failed to put out a solid album and that his sound was rather bland. He has a voice and some aesthetic appeal, but when you compare his early albums against the other two mentioned artists-he just wasn't as interesting. They stepped out further on a limb with their debuts and follow ups, whereas he stuck to nice middle of the road quiet storm.


WHAT??!!

Please tell me U never heard his 'True To Myself' album.

That was a FANTASTIC album, with diverse styles, and a bold approach.

Unfortunately, he totally abandoned that vibe, and his following albums were more as U described.

Do yourself a favor, and get the 'True To Myself' CD.

Specifically, these songs:

"True To Myself"
"Chains"
"More Than Just a Girlfriend"
"What if We Was Cool"
and his cover of the Sly classic, "If You Want Me To Stay"...

HERE:

http://www.lala.com/#albu...5171035549

Peace.

~G


"True To Myself" was far from being a safe generic RnB album - that's what I liked about it. "While You Were Sleeping" is a gorgeous song...unfortunately his stuff became a bit more smoothed out after that album, although the unreleased "Better & Better" album would have been a better move than "Hurricane".

I saw him earlier this year - there was not a dry pussy in the house.
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Reply #41 posted 12/17/09 5:03am

Mong

AlexdeParis said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

Um, because he's nowhere NEAR as good at the two you just mentioned?

That was I was coming to say. He's not as good as Maxwell and he's nowhere remotely close to D'Angelo.


Well he's a better singer than Maxwell...Maxwell's last few albums have been very lame.
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Reply #42 posted 12/17/09 6:12am

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seems 2 me that Eric never really took his career that seriously and the label took the same appraoch with his career. I dig his material but I get the feeling that 100% commitment 2 the music was NOT Eric's goal.
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Reply #43 posted 12/17/09 1:16pm

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Mong said:

AlexdeParis said:


That was I was coming to say. He's not as good as Maxwell and he's nowhere remotely close to D'Angelo.


Well he's a better singer than Maxwell...Maxwell's last few albums have been very lame.

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Reply #44 posted 12/17/09 5:04pm

Mong

Graycap23 said:

seems 2 me that Eric never really took his career that seriously and the label took the same appraoch with his career. I dig his material but I get the feeling that 100% commitment 2 the music was NOT Eric's goal.


I disagree. I just think he lucked out in how the label perceived him in terms of promotion and the pecking order. A bit silly, as the man ticks all the boxes...he really came across as very charming and funny at the show I saw...and a bit too good looking for my liking!
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Reply #45 posted 12/17/09 8:32pm

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I call BS on anybody who doesn't think that Hurricane was not one of the best albums of 2005. mad
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Reply #46 posted 12/18/09 7:10am

Graycap23

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I call BS on anybody who doesn't think that Hurricane was not one of the best albums of 2005. mad

It was his WORST cd.
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Reply #47 posted 12/18/09 7:54am

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I don't know why any of them reached the status they achieved other than the general public forgetting how to jam. All three of them seem to have talent and potential but they use it to make the wrong type of music. All that smooth laid back stuff. bored All three of them seem like the type that could get down but they just won't do it.
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Reply #48 posted 12/20/09 5:52pm

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I loved "Love Don't Love me" music

Time
I still don't know the reason after all this time
I'm all alone but see it comes as no surprise
It seems like I don't laugh each time that love goes right
Every time

By chance
Somethin' happens every time I get a chance
I feel the rhythm but I just don't know the dance
I want to move with you but something holds me back
Holds me back, yeah

All I ever needed I could never find (Mmm, hmm)
All I ever wanted was to get it right (Mmm)
Somebody tell me what is wrong with me
I wasn't sure, but I know now
I believe that it must be (Must be)
Love don't love me (Mmm)
Love don't love me

Oh, I
I know exactly what is missing in my life
Something for sure it's simply purely been awhile
But hon', I'm out the door before the morning light
Every night

So I pray
I'm so afraid I'm always gonna feel this way
Relationships only to pass the time away
Fear of commitment is a habit hard to break
I must say, yeah

All I ever needed I could never find
All I ever wanted was to get it right (Get it right)
Somebody tell me what is wrong with me (Wrong with me)
I wasn't sure, but I know now
I believe (I believe) that it must be (It must be)
Love don't love me (Hey)
Love don't love me (Don't love me)

All I ever wanted was some happiness (Happiness)
Take it to a level that's above the rest (Ho...oh...)
I wanna know how it's supposed to be
I wanna feel something real
But I believe (I believe) that it must be (It must be)
Love don't love me (Love don't love me)
Love don't love me (No, no, it don't love me)

Someone teach my heart to fall in love again
That all I have to fear is fear itself
I know that I was hard to love one woman
But why must I keep runnin' through the race, oh...

Yeah...
Yeah....ooh...
Yeah....ooh...
Yeah....ooh...
Uh, uh, mmm, oh, all I ever need

All I ever needed I could never find (Oh..)
All I ever wanted was to get it right (Hey)
Somebody tell me what is wrong with me (Tell me please)
I wasn't sure, but I know now
I believe (I believe ) that it must be (It must be)
Love don't love me (Love don't love me)
Love don't love me (Love don't love me)

All I ever wanted (Hey) was some happiness (Oh)
Take it to a level that's above the rest (That higher place)
I wanna know how it's supposed to be
I wanna feel something real
But I believe that it must be
Love don't love me (Oh)
Love don't love me (Ho...)

All I ever needed I could never find (I could never find)
All I ever wanted was to get it right (Just to get it right)
Somebody tell me what is wrong with me (Oh, oh)
I wasn't sure, but I know now (Oh, oh)
I believe that it must be (Yeah)
Love don't love me (Love don't love me)
Love don't love me (Love don't love me)

All I ever wanted was some happiness (Oh)
Take it to a level that's above the rest (Hey...)
I wanna know how it's supposed to be
I wanna feel something real (I)
But I believe that it must be (Oh)
Love don't love me
Love don't love me
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #49 posted 12/20/09 6:54pm

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Don't be fooled. Eric Benet may not be selling double
platinum lps but dude has a cult following among female
fans in concert. I recently caught his tour with Ledisi
and Mint Condition. I had females there telling me the
names of the songs on Hurricane and much of his discography.
Eric is definitely a good vocalist live but dude just needs
to find him a good musical director and stop the half ass
band he performs with which is 2 guitarists and a drummer
playing over pre recorded tracks.
Don't laugh at my funk
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Reply #50 posted 12/20/09 7:35pm

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does it really matter?
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Reply #51 posted 12/20/09 9:00pm

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phunkdaddy said:

Don't be fooled. Eric Benet may not be selling double
platinum lps but dude has a cult following among female
fans in concert. I recently caught his tour with Ledisi
and Mint Condition. I had females there telling me the
names of the songs on Hurricane and much of his discography.
Eric is definitely a good vocalist live but dude just needs
to find him a good musical director and stop the half ass
band he performs with which is 2 guitarists and a drummer
playing over pre recorded tracks
.


eek

Somebody doesn't wanna pay for muscians, WFT? Dang that wasn't a concert that was cheesy Las Vegas lounge act.
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Reply #52 posted 12/20/09 9:39pm

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CalhounSq said:

Mong said:



Well he's a better singer than Maxwell...Maxwell's last few albums have been very lame.

HOW DARE YOU...

falloff

Eric enunciates better.

Now. Argue with that... nana
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Reply #53 posted 12/21/09 6:45am

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ThreadBare said:

CalhounSq said:


HOW DARE YOU...

falloff

Eric enunciates better.

Now. Argue with that... nana


I'm not going to get into the who's better nonsense because either
way you go some may take an opinion to personal but i don't think
Eric takes a back seat to either.
Don't laugh at my funk
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Reply #54 posted 12/21/09 11:24am

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Eric's a very talented singer/songwriter but to be honest, he's a little "traditional" with his material. D'Angelo changed the game with his first CD. THAT ONE CD CHANGED THE DIRECTION OF R&B.
Maxwell brought a vibe of his own. His first record earned him the rep of "The male Sade" and with good reason. He had a smooth, funky first album and he was different from other artists, blending classic soul with a very fluid vocal style. Eric's first record was good but not all that different from what was going on with R&B at the time. He's a strong singer and obviously his looks also play a part with his fan base, but his material is Brian McKnight - like in some places. He really tends to stay in his lane musically and that makes him a bit generic.
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Reply #55 posted 12/21/09 12:52pm

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It may have something to do with charisma, and I agree with some that bad publicity with Halle Berry may have played a major part.
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Reply #56 posted 12/22/09 1:53am

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ThreadBare said:

CalhounSq said:


HOW DARE YOU...

falloff

Eric enunciates better.

Now. Argue with that... nana

Oh lawd, I might care if they were doing speeches but they're singing man! hammer lol
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Reply #57 posted 12/22/09 6:22am

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I find Eric's new cd Love and Life to be really good.
I haven't had a chance to listen to Hurricane.
Don't laugh at my funk
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Reply #58 posted 12/23/09 6:42am

ThreadBare

CalhounSq said:

ThreadBare said:


falloff

Eric enunciates better.

Now. Argue with that... nana

Oh lawd, I might care if they were doing speeches but they're singing man! hammer lol

You know D'angelo mumbles when he sings! hammer
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Reply #59 posted 12/23/09 6:59am

Harlepolis

TD3 said:

phunkdaddy said:

Don't be fooled. Eric Benet may not be selling double
platinum lps but dude has a cult following among female
fans in concert. I recently caught his tour with Ledisi
and Mint Condition. I had females there telling me the
names of the songs on Hurricane and much of his discography.
Eric is definitely a good vocalist live but dude just needs
to find him a good musical director and stop the half ass
band he performs with which is 2 guitarists and a drummer
playing over pre recorded tracks
.


eek

Somebody doesn't wanna pay for muscians, WFT? Dang that wasn't a concert that was cheesy Las Vegas lounge act.


Indeed! Its a far cry from the days when he had 75(or so) of musicians to back him up on a tour(that was 1999-2000 I think).
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