musicjunky318 said:

i still don't know who Susan Boyle is> Sounds like an early 80s actor.

mcw00 said:

But even something like "The Motown Song" was more lively than what he is doing now.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

she won some American Idol type show but she's from the UK. Amazing voice, but also something to do with a television audience buying her CDs.

musicjunky318 said:

LMFAOOOOO!!!

LittleBLUECorvette said:

She might as well be the new Queen of Pop. Heffa's expected to capture the best-selling album this year and she only released it like 14 days ago.

She did 700k the first week, 500k the second week, expected to do about 600k this week, and she might top a million the week before Christmas and I'm not even joking. Alicia's gettin bodied next week.

mcw00 said:

Age ain't got nothing to do with it. Prince's 50-something and he's still performing funk rock. So is George Clinton at 69. So it's no excuse.

The only reason why she's doing well is because she appeals to old people

musicjunky318 said:

Old folks dig her lol

Timmy84 said:

I'm sayin'. Rod doesn't need to wear a leather harness, but he could still rock.

Identity said:

R. should've went the Andrea Bocelli route

Cinnie said:

Yes, he don't have to return to what he wore in the '70s (I think that wouldn't be right on his part anyways) but he ain't too old to perform hot music. That's all we're saying lol

midiscover said:

Oh now it's the record company's fault. Got it. Sounds vaguely familiar.. Hmmmmm.

vainandy said:

You got that right, babes.

I won TWO dance contests this year, (one paid $100!). In '07 I won the dance contest at our Christmas party and in '05 I danced onstage w/ George Clinton and Sir Nose!

Even if I have to resort to some Excedrin or Ben Gay once in awhile, I'm still good to go!

All kids half my age wanna do is stand around and text each other.

ernestsewell said:

Janet?

Eh it really is Jive's fault. They didn't give R. Kelly any promo except for TV adverts a day before the album release His only promo was a Jimmy Kimmel performance that was way back in October and tour that only his fans knew about yet he managed to sell out. Again, Jive fucking sucks He's doing very well for someone with little to no promo. Most people didn't even know he had an album out.

Timmy84 said:

Sho-nuff...and did you see Springsteen at the Super Bowl last year? He rocked it!

midiscover said:

I resemble that remark,

midiscover said:

Bullshit. R. Kelly fans know he has an album out, and it's sold just over 100K. THAT is his fan base. Prince's album came out, and 386,000 people bought it. That is probably, roughly, Prince's fan base....the hard core folks. Let's say 350,000, and you have other people who have bought multiple copies for whatever reason, plus the folks across the United States that will buy it out of curiosity. Same principle, different singers, but the argument is valid. We'd ALL like to think our favorite singers have a bigger fan base, and maybe on a tour, or a free show for Good Morning America, or Conan O'Brien, they'll be there. But when it comes down to dollars and SENSE, few artists have that fan base that will buy every single thing, all the time, for the sake of collecting.

babynoz said:

Exactly. Guy 60 move like he 40!

ernestsewell said:

I know his fans knew about his album. I'm talking about people outside of his fanbase. And I don't understand why you're doubting that he has a fanbase His accolades till this day prove he does.

ernestsewell said:

R is having a NYE party here that just had the price cut 25%.

midiscover said:

Kellz's fan base has actually dwindled in the last few years. I think Double Up did about 100 more than this one did. Others d/l'ed the album or just didn't buy it. Oh well.

I think people continue to ignore how much free music impacts record sales. Who is going to buy music when you can download it? Plus most music today blows. even my favorite artists have four or five "filler" songs on their albums.

Timmy84 said:

Like every artist. Double Up sold 400K first week and sold over a million copies in the states. He still has fans reason why all his albums reached platinum or multi-platinum. Untitled is his first flop

Vendetta1 said:

I don't even d/l albums unless I can't afford them or they hand it to people for free anyways. I may change my habit and buy from Amazon, I'm gonna see if I can order that Marvin bio... lol

And anyways the albums from THIS YEAR that I bought I'm QUITE satisfied with.

Timmy84 said:

I think the only thing I bought this year was Maxwell and I gave that away. I wish I had downloaded it.

Timmy84 said:

The surgery that Rod had a few years back are the reason you are never gonna get more than "standards" ever again from Rod.

ernestsewell said:

But R and Prince have WAY different fan bases. I mean R kelly and Usher and other big RB 90's acts and on, despite selling alot of records, cant sell out shows (for the most part), and lets be real now, Prince could do something like "Rainbow Children" and do it on his label and sell 125,000 while very few "modern day" artists could pull something like that. The thing is like you said PRINCE has that more loyal following. kind of like a rock band, like an REM or Pearl Jam who will buy it even if the cd leaks a year before it comes out. I mean REM's "accelerate" sold about 300,000 and it was all over the net for almost a year prior, thats why they have another album done ready to go. RB acts for the most part are not that fortunate, very few, unless they have a crossover appeal or at least can cross a generation gap, i mean ALICIA KEYS will sell despite the "market" because young folks like her and older like her, and even my mom is asking about her new album while she is enjoying some Andrea Bocelli, so you really have to know your market and what you are dealing with, get used to the numbers being low folks, the decade started RECORD HIGH and will end RECORD LOW.

'90s R&B stars actually have disappointed me in the last while.

Timmy84 said:

they pretty much always disappointed me, back then and now

RnBAmbassador said:

Actually, considering their limited fan bases and the general state of the record industry, Maxwell and Chrisette Michelle are doing fabulously. And Whitney Houston's numbers aren't too bade either, considering that she had been out of the music scene for quite a while and had a bunch of personal issues to deal with.

As for R. Kelly, those numbers represent his base, and remember that he lost a lot of his base with the whole kiddie porn and child molestation issues. Even though he beat the rap in court, he is still viewed as a child molester by most people (including myself, though I agreed with the verdict).

The really disappointing numbers have to be Mariah's and Rihanna's. Mariah may have peaked in her popularity career-wise, but her latest album isn't that great either. Rihanna's numbers are pretty low considering all of the promo that's been put into promoting her album. They could still turn around if she releases a monster single, but then again it may just show that her last album was a career fluke and peak.

vainandy said:

"Infatuation"? Please. I'd rather hear "Passion" or "Young Turks".