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lastdecember said: Marrk said: Besides MJ and Lionel whose Motown sales are not included, no Motown acts. Therefore i call BS on this list. And where exactly are all the black artists on this list anyway?  Well its the Riaa and how they certify, and almost indentical to the list that was posted on this forum last year. As for Black Artists, last time i checked Sade,Outkast,R Kelly,Tlc,EWF,Janet,Luther,Boyz II MEn,RKelly,2Pac,Jay Z were all black. Well duh, but outta a hundred? those few? the RIAAA can fuck off with their bulshit stats. |
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Marrk said: lastdecember said: Well its the Riaa and how they certify, and almost indentical to the list that was posted on this forum last year. As for Black Artists, last time i checked Sade,Outkast,R Kelly,Tlc,EWF,Janet,Luther,Boyz II MEn,RKelly,2Pac,Jay Z were all black. Well duh, but outta a hundred? those few? the RIAAA can fuck off with their bulshit stats. Well its all bullshit when it comes to numbers because neither SOundscan nor the RIAA are accurate and NEITHER tracks returns of records. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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midiscover said: lastdecember said: Here is the list put out by the RIAA.COM in December of 2008 of sales till that point.
Number Name Nationality Years Active Genre Certification in millions 1 The Beatles U.K. 60s-70s Rock / Pop Rock / Psychedelic rock/ Rock and Roll 170 2 Garth Brooks U.S. 80s-00s Country 128 3 Elvis Presley U.S. 50s-70s Rock'n roll / Rock / Pop / Country / Gospel 120 4 Led Zeppelin UK 60s-80s Hard rock / Blues rock 111.5 5 Eagles U.S. 70s-00s Rock / Country rock 100 6 Billy Joel U.S. 60s-00s Rock 79.5 7 Pink Floyd UK 60s-90s Psychedelic rock / Space rock / Progressive rock 74.5 8 Barbra Streisand U.S. 60s-00s Pop 71.5 9 AC/DC AUS 70s-00s Hard rock 71 10 Elton John UK 60s-00s Pop / Rock 70 11 George Strait U.S. 80s-00s Country 68.5 12 Michael Jackson U.S. 60s-00s Pop / R&B 67.5 13 Aerosmith U.S. 70s-00s Hard rock 66.5 14 The Rolling Stones UK 60s-00s Rock / Blues rock 66 15 Bruce Springsteen U.S. 70s-00s Rock / Folk 64 16 Madonna U.S. 80s-00s Pop / Dance 64 17 Mariah Carey U.S. 90s-00s Pop / R&B 62.5 18 Metallica U.S. 80s-00s Heavy metal 59 19 Van Halen U.S. 70s-00s Hard rock 56.5 20 Whitney Houston U.S. 80s-00s Pop/ R&B 55 21 U2 Ireland 80s-00s Rock 51.5 22 Kenny Rogers U.S. 50s-00s Pop/ Rock/ Country 51 23 Celine Dion Canada 80s-00s Pop 50 24 Neil Diamond U.S. 60s-00s Pop 48.5 25 Fleetwood Mac UK./U.S. 60s-00s Rock 48.5 26 Shania Twain Canada 90s-00s Pop country 48 27 Kenny G U.S. 80s-00s Jazz 48 28 Journey U.S. 70s-00s Pop / Rock 47 29 Alabama U.S. 70s-00s Country rock 46 30 Guns N' Roses U.S. 80s-00s Hard rock / Heavy Metal 43.5 31 Santana Mexico 60s-00s Latin / Rock 43 32 Alan Jackson U.S. 80s-00s Country 42.5 33 Eric Clapton UK 60s-00s Blues / Blues rock / Rock 42.5 34 Bob Seger U.S. 60s-00s Rock 41 35 Reba McEntire U.S. 70s-00s Country 40.5 36 Prince U.S. 70s-00s R&B / Rock / Funk 39.5 37 Simon and Garfunkel U.S. 60s-80s Folk / Pop 38.5 38 Chicago U.S. 60s-00s Pop / Rock 38 39 Foreigner U.S./UK 70s-00s Rock 37.5 40 2 Pac U.S. 90s Rap 37.5 41 Rod Stewart UK 70s-00s Pop / Rock 37 42 Bob Dylan U.S. 60s-00s Folk / Rock 37 43 Backstreet Boys U.S. 90s-00s Teen pop 37 44 Tim McGraw U.S. 90s-00s Country 35 45 Def Leppard UK 70s-00s Hard rock / Heavy Metal 35 46 Willie Nelson U.S. 50s-00s Country 35 47 Bon Jovi U.S. 80s-00s Rock / Hard Rock 34 48 Phil Collins UK 80s-00s Rock/ Progressive rock 33.5 49 R. Kelly U.S. 90s-00s R&B 33 50 James Taylor U.S. 70s-00s Folk / Pop 33 51 John Denver U.S. 60s-90s Pop / Country 32.5 52 Queen UK 70s-00s Pop rock / Hard rock 32.5 53 The Doors U.S. 60s-70s Rock / Psychedelic Rock 32.5 54 Britney Spears U.S. 90s-00s Pop / Dance 32 55 Dave Matthews Band U.S. 90s-00s Alternative rock 31 56 Pearl Jam U.S. 90s-00s Grunge / Alternative rock 31 57 Boston U.S. 70s-00s Rock / Hard rock 31 58 Dixie Chicks U.S. 80s-00s Pop country 30.5 59 Linda Ronstadt U.S. 60s-00s Rock/ Pop 30 60 Tom Petty U.S. 70s-00s Rock 29 61 Ozzy Osbourne UK 60s-00s Hard Rock / Heavy metal 28.75 62 Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers U.S. 70s-00s Rock 28.5 63 Lynyrd Skynyrd U.S. 60s-00s Southern rock 28 64 Michael Bolton U.S. 80s-00s Pop 28 65 'N Sync U.S. 90s-00s Teen pop 28 66 Mannheim Steamroller U.S. 70s-00s New Age 28 67 John Mellencamp U.S. 70s-00s Rock 27.5 68 Barry Manilow U.S. 70s-00s Pop 27.5 69 Jay-Z U.S. 80s-00s Rap 27 70 Boyz II Men U.S. 90s-00s R&B 27 71 Frank Sinatra U.S. 30s-90s Traditional pop 27 72 Eminem U.S. 90s-00s Rap 27 73 Brooks & Dunn U.S. 90s-00s Country 26.5 74 Enya Ireland 80s-00s New Age / Celtic 26.5 75 Creedence Clearwater Revival U.S. 60s-70s Country / Rock 26 76 Janet Jackson U.S. 80s-00s R&B / Pop 26 77 The Bee Gees UK 60s-00s Pop/ Disco 26 78 Faith Hill U.S. 90s-00s Country 25.5 79 Creed U.S. 90s-00s Alternative Rock 25 80 Luther Vandross U.S. 60s-00s R&B 25 81 ZZ Top U.S. 70s-00s Rock / Blues rock / Hard rock 25 82 Nirvana U.S. 80s-90s Grunge / Alternative rock 25 83 Rush Canada 70s-00s Hard rock / Progressive rock 25 84 Steve Miller Band U.S. 60s-00s Rock 24.5 85 The Carpenters U.S. 60s-80s Pop 24.5 86 Vince Gill U.S. 70s-00s Country 24 87 Toby Keith U.S. 90s-00s Country 24 88 Mötley Crüe U.S. 80s-00s Hard rock / Heavy Metal 23.5 89 The Cars U.S. 70s-80s Rock / New wave 23.5 90 Earth, Wind & Fire U.S. 70s-00s Funk / R&B / Disco 23.5 91 Jimmy Buffett U.S. 60s-00s Rock / Pop / Country 23 92 Green Day U.S. 80s-00s Punk Rock / Alternative Rock 22.5 93 The Police UK 70s-80s Pop / New wave 22.5 94 Jimi Hendrix U.S. 60s-70s Psychedelic rock 22.5 95 Sade UK 80s-00s R&B / Pop 22.5 96 Kenny Chesney U.S. 90s-00s Country 22.5 97 Outkast U.S. 90s-00s Rap / R&B / Alternative 22 98 Kid Rock U.S. 90s-00s Rap / Hard Rock / Country 22 99 TLC U.S. 90s-00s Rap / R&B / Pop 22 100 Lionel Richie U.S. 70s-00s Soul / R&B / Pop 22 Janet needs to get re-certified ASAP! Whereas you just need certifying.  |
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Marrk said: Besides MJ and Lionel whose Motown sales are not included, no Motown acts. Therefore i call BS on this list.
AFAIK, a lot of sales were not reported by Motown. For instance, I don't believe Talking Book, Innervisions, and Fulfillingness' First Finale have ever been certified platinum, but they surely must be by now (if not multi-platinum). "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: Marrk said: Besides MJ and Lionel whose Motown sales are not included, no Motown acts. Therefore i call BS on this list.
AFAIK, a lot of sales were not reported by Motown. For instance, I don't believe Talking Book, Innervisions, and Fulfillingness' First Finale have ever been certified platinum, but they surely must be by now (if not multi-platinum). I remember a UK radio doc in the mid 80's, saying Stevie's SITKOL had sold approx 17m. |
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lastdecember said: Marrk said: Besides MJ and Lionel whose Motown sales are not included, no Motown acts. Therefore i call BS on this list. And where exactly are all the black artists on this list anyway? Well its the Riaa and how they certify, and almost indentical to the list that was posted on this forum last year. As for Black Artists, last time i checked Sade,Outkast,R Kelly,Tlc,EWF,Janet,Luther,Boyz II MEn,RKelly,2Pac,Jay Z were all black. You forgot Jimi and Whitney. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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Marrk said: lastdecember said: Well its the Riaa and how they certify, and almost indentical to the list that was posted on this forum last year. As for Black Artists, last time i checked Sade,Outkast,R Kelly,Tlc,EWF,Janet,Luther,Boyz II MEn,RKelly,2Pac,Jay Z were all black. Well duh, but outta a hundred? those few? the RIAAA can fuck off with their bulshit stats. Did you think affirmative action applies to music as well? | |
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Marrk said: AlexdeParis said: AFAIK, a lot of sales were not reported by Motown. For instance, I don't believe Talking Book, Innervisions, and Fulfillingness' First Finale have ever been certified platinum, but they surely must be by now (if not multi-platinum). I remember a UK radio doc in the mid 80's, saying Stevie's SITKOL had sold approx 17m. Yeah, it's certified diamond in the US (10x platinum). The albums after that one are also certified (In Square Circle is double platinum; Hotter Than July, The Woman in Red, and Characters are platinum; and Musiquarium, Conversation Peace, and A Time to Love are gold. Two other hits albums are also platinum and the boxed set is gold. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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Marrk said: midiscover said: Janet needs to get re-certified ASAP! Whereas you just need certifying.  | |
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midiscover said: Marrk said: Whereas you just need certifying. Joking.  |
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japanrocks said: jesus.....7 of the top 20 are COUNTRY artists!!
wtf? Not a big surprise. Country fans are loyal to their favorite artists. | |
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AlexdeParis said: Marrk said: I remember a UK radio doc in the mid 80's, saying Stevie's SITKOL had sold approx 17m. Yeah, it's certified diamond in the US (10x platinum). The albums after that one are also certified (In Square Circle is double platinum; Hotter Than July, The Woman in Red, and Characters are platinum; and Musiquarium, Conversation Peace, and A Time to Love are gold. Two other hits albums are also platinum and the boxed set is gold. Motown didn't start certifying their sales with RIAA until the mid 70s I think "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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The Beatles "1" is the best-selling album of the decade, with 11.5 million copies sold.
http://www.usatoday.com/l...8_ST_N.htm Not bad, for a band that broke up 40 years ago. | |
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Marrk said: Gotta say it. only one new album this decade, and MJ is still right there, i'm assuming this doesn't take into account all his sales post-MJ.
Consistantly massive seller, 70s, 80s, 90s and Noughties. The shit didn't stick, even in the States it seems. God bless him. yeah cause he's so some crazy amount of albums in the last 6 months "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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too bad sales dont match the quality of most of the music put out by artists on that list.
its all about da undaground! You're so glam, every time I see you I wanna slam! | |
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japanrocks said: bboy87 said: he's missing, but is he?  yes he is Kravitz if u cant tell me if Prince or Rosie did the opening scream for Gett Off, then u are not purple !!! | |
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i saw a fucking limp bizkit video the other day  . i admit to liking some of their songs in the beginning (faith, nookie, etc.), but fred durst got annoying as fuck hella quick. glad he vanished off the face of the earth 
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Hmm, so Beyonce hasnt even sold 12 million albums yet?
SMH. and I actually believed the Beyonce stans when they swore up and down she sold over 30 million albums. | |
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Pressure said: Hmm, so Beyonce hasnt even sold 12 million albums yet?
SMH. and I actually believed the Beyonce stans when they swore up and down she sold over 30 million albums. Beyonce is talented, I enjoy some of her songs and performances but her hype is just...for me, it's a turn off. I'm sorry. The way people carry on sometimes, I mean it's just out of this world. The artist of the decade's not even in the Top 50 album sellers. What a joke. How much did you pay for the title honey? | |
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Pressure said: Hmm, so Beyonce hasnt even sold 12 million albums yet?
SMH. and I actually believed the Beyonce stans when they swore up and down she sold over 30 million albums. I am no Beyonce fan (in fact I dislike her music) but I don't think it is so weird. She only had 3 studio albums (and some other albums) so she would need on average 3m for each studio album (and 1m for each of the others) in order to reach 12m and as we know this wasn't the case at all, probably only her first reached those numbers | |
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PsychedelicGoof said: The Beatles "1" is the best-selling album of the decade, with 11.5 million copies sold.
http://www.usatoday.com/l...8_ST_N.htm Not bad, for a band that broke up 40 years ago. In a way, it's weird that a collection of 1960s songs outsold ALL new music this decade... I wonder what the best selling album of 2010s is gonna be? Probably some Thriller repackage? | |
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jiorjios said: Pressure said: Hmm, so Beyonce hasnt even sold 12 million albums yet?
SMH. and I actually believed the Beyonce stans when they swore up and down she sold over 30 million albums. I am no Beyonce fan (in fact I dislike her music) but I don't think it is so weird. She only had 3 studio albums (and some other albums) so she would need on average 3m for each studio album (and 1m for each of the others) in order to reach 12m and as we know this wasn't the case at all, probably only her first reached those numbers Christina only released 2 studio albums and she's up there. | |
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midiscover said: jiorjios said: I am no Beyonce fan (in fact I dislike her music) but I don't think it is so weird. She only had 3 studio albums (and some other albums) so she would need on average 3m for each studio album (and 1m for each of the others) in order to reach 12m and as we know this wasn't the case at all, probably only her first reached those numbers Christina only released 2 studio albums and she's up there. Beyonce is possibly the most hyped singer in modern history. | |
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i find it impossible to believe that madonna isn't even on that list and sinatra is.
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musicjunky318 said: midiscover said: Christina only released 2 studio albums and she's up there. Beyonce is possibly the most hyped singer in modern history. Basically! It's funny how all her hype doesn't equal to her album sales and tour grossing. | |
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cborgman said: i find it impossible to believe that madonna isn't even on that list and sinatra is.
something is wrong with tht list. it can't be right. Soundscan = U.S. sales | |
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03 Tim McGraw 24,769,000
05 Britney Spears 22,969,000 07 Linkin Park 21,421,000 12 Rascal Flatts 19,408,000 20 Celine Dion 17,363,000 24 U2 16,817,000 30 Alicia Keys 15,561,000 32 Santana 14,975,000 35 Mariah Carey 14,341,000 37 Shania Twain 13,850,000 40 Green Day 13,363,000 44 Faith Hill 12,899,000 47 Christina Aguilera 12,380,000 only ones from that list. 
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cborgman said: i find it impossible to believe that madonna isn't even on that list and sinatra is.
something is wrong with tht list. it can't be right. co-sign.
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banks said: BklynBabe said: well actually....I was talking about her
you know....the Artist of the Decade not the Artist. I knew you meant Beyonce... I was thinking the samething Good to know I wasn't the only one who read through the list thinking "where are you??' | |
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cborgman said: i find it impossible to believe that madonna isn't even on that list and sinatra is.
something is wrong with tht list. it can't be right. Madonna sold around 10 million in the 2000s: Music: ~2.92 million GHV2: ~1.38 million American Life: ~675,000 Remixed & Revisited: ~128,000 Confessions On A Dance Floor: ~1.7 million I'm Going To Tell You A Secret: ~84,000 The Confessions Tour: ~140,000 Hard Candy: ~725,000 Celebration: ~175,000 Plus around almost 2 millions of The Immaculate Collection sales and a bit of the older albums too. [Edited 1/1/10 3:25am] | |
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