Luv,
"If you ever stop singing, I'll drop you like hot potatoes", Joe told his kids. People don't usually think about it, but Joe was REALLY jealous of Michael. Remember that Joe's ambition was to become a professional singer, with the Falcons. When Michael started becoming recognized as a child prodigy, Joe became so JEALOUS that he insulted Michael wih the most mean-spirited insults one can think about. "You are too ugly to be my child", "I hate your nose", "You're ugly", "You're a nothing", he made fun of his son's acne problem...Joe would say this to Michael. And he beat his kids all the time. He used to lock Michael in closets, make him take off his clothes, then oil his body and finally beat him with a switch or an iron cord. If one of his kids dared to miss a step or a note after 10 hours of rehearsels, Joe would beat them the way I described. He also used to beat his kids and then put salt in the wounds if they asked him to go play. Is that discipline? No, It's abuse. People usually see Joe as a blue collar steel worker, but the fact is that he quited his job after realizing that he could make money off of his kids. He then made his 5 years old son perform for 10 hours a day and, at night, he had to be in a car for 2 hours in order to perform at some strip club. He isolated Michael from the real world and exploited him to no end. Furthermore, Joe was a sex addict. I think that fact is no secret. He didn't hide it from his sons, in fact, Joe encouraged his sons to be sex addicts as well. Joe cheated on Katherine constantly and used the money his kids had earned in order to buy his mistresses gifts. Then Michael fired him as his manager and Joe spent his time making shemes on Michael's back in order to make money off of his son even if that meant interfering in his career. Remember what he and Leonard Rowe did to Michael in the last days of his life? Randy Philips said this; "Michael told me to be careful because his dad would hound him to get a piece of the pie like he always did. Joe always wanted to be in control, he would always be making plans to control Michael and his money.". Remember when Joe used to trick Michael into signing contracts that would benefit Joe exclusively? He had another daughter whom he cared about despite the fact that he never showed Michael affection or love. He told his kids that he was proud of her while treating them as dogs. I could go on and on and on but it's too much. I've read so many things that it makes it impossible for me to see Joe as a human being. He's a monster. [Edited 12/26/09 14:30pm] [Edited 12/26/09 14:40pm] | |
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"If you ever stop singing, I'll drop you like hot potatoes", Joe told his kids. People don't usually think about it, but Joe was REALLY jealous of Michael. Remember that Joe's ambition was to become a professional singer, with the Falcons. When Michael started becoming recognized as a child prodigy, Joe became so JEALOUS that he insulted Michael wih the most mean-spirited insults one can think about. "You are too ugly to be my child", "I hate your nose", "You're ugly", "You're a nothing", he made fun of his son's acne problem...Joe would say this to Michael. And he beat his kids all the time. He used to lock Michael in closets, make him take off his clothes, then oil his body and finally beat him with a switch or an iron cord. If one of his kids dared to miss a step or a note after 10 hours of rehearsels, Joe would beat them the way I described. He also used to beat his kids and then put salt in the wounds if they asked him to go play. Is that discipline? No, It's abuse. People usually see Joe as a blue collar steel worker, but the fact is that he quited his job after realizing that he could make money off of his kids. He then made his 5 years old son perform for 10 hours a day and, at night, he had to be in a car for 2 hours in order to perform at some strip club. He isolated Michael from the real world and exploited him to no end. Furthermore, Joe was a sex addict. I think that fact is no secret. He didn't hide it from his sons, in fact, Joe encouraged his sons to be sex addicts as well. Joe cheated on Katherine constantly and used the money his kids had earned in order to buy his mistresses gifts. Then Michael fired him as his manager and Joe spent his time making shemes on Michael's back in order to make money off of his son even if that meant interfering in his career. Remember what he and Leonard Rowe did to Michael in the last days of his life? Randy Philips said this; "Michael told me to be careful because his dad would hound him to get a piece of the pie like he always did. Joe always wanted to be in control, he would always be making plans to control Michael and his money.". Remember when Joe used to trick Michael into signing contracts that would benefit Joe exclusively? He had another daughter whom he cared about despite the fact that he never showed Michael affection or love. He told his kids that he was proud of her while treating them as dogs. I could go on and on and on but it's too much. I've read so many things that it makes it impossible for me to see Joe as a human being. He's a monster. [Edited 12/26/09 14:30pm] [Edited 12/26/09 14:40pm] I will say this and end this conversation. Sadly, a lot of Black people felt really bad about their looks and would insult each other. Yes, parents, grandparent, aunts, uncles, brothers and sisters would making statement like "you're too black", "you're nose is too wide", "you're lips are too big". This was very common. I'm trying to explain that Joe Jackson's behavior was not uncommon for the time. I tried to give a little history to explain this behavior. At the time, the more white you looked the more you were accepted in society. Hence, Michael Jackson's face and skin changes and his white children. | |
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MOL said: angel345 said: My father used to play hide and seek with me, my siblings, and friends when we were children. He was in his thirties. I was thirty years old when I had my first and only child. I played kiddie games with her, hide and seek too. She's fine, and so am I Do you also have a Disneyland in your backyard? Somehow, I don't think that's...hummm...very sane. Yea but who are you trying to pin that on, Joe? The brothers? Katherine? I find it odd how everyone else always seems to be at fault for Michael's choices in your postings MOL. No one forced him to build Neverland, he did it because he wanted to do it. This blame game that you're playing doesn't cut it with me. People need to start realizing that they are truly individual and first and foremost responsible for their own actions. A neighbor of mine always blames herself because one of her sons can't stay out of jail. He'll get out, then he'll be back 6 months later, and it makes her believe she did something wrong. And that's bullshit. She played no part in that. She raised him and his siblings like any loving parent would to the best of her ability yet he wanted to do things his way for as long as I can remember. Got involved with the wrong crowd and now suffers the consequences for his own behavior. The excuse card is very common honey and it's played about everyday but it's a card that I never got behind 100%. Michael was the one who continuously backed himself in the corner. He was the one that felt he didn't need his father as a manager anymore and fired him. He was the one that moved out the house. He was the one that chose to hang around all these shady people. He was the one that wanted to be on his own professionally. He was the one that was insecure enough for the surgery. He was the one that didn't pick up the phone when his own family was calling and he was the one that built the walls he surrounded himself with. Yal can try to hype up this Joe this and Joe that all you want but at the end of the day Michael was a grown man who made and was responsible for his own decisions. No, the excuse here my friends isn't necessarily about how tough of a disciplinarion his father was, (the other 8 seemed to have taken it differently) but is rather, like I hinted at yesterday, about the pressure of fame and being unable to deal with it. Michael and Marlon are what, a year apart? What made Michael's outlook on his childhood or lack-there-of so different than Marlon's? Because Marlon Jackson isn't Michael Jackson. It's simple. Yes they were close in age but the pressure on 11-year-old Marlon couldn't even begin to compete with the pressure that 10-year-old Michael faced. Add some of the sharks that came into his life later on and you're left with the tragedy we all witnessed in June. So is that his family's fault? No, the real drama came after. Go on youtube and look up some old clips of the brothers & sisters while they were still all together, cause from my advantage point that's when Michael seemed to be the happiest. When they were around each other before other interests and influences threw in their 2 cents. That's when the downward spiral began. And the Jackson family wasn't the spark that lit the fire. | |
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musicjunky318 said: MOL said: Do you also have a Disneyland in your backyard? Somehow, I don't think that's...hummm...very sane. Yea but who are you trying to pin that on, Joe? The brothers? Katherine? I find it odd how everyone else always seems to be at fault for Michael's choices in your postings MOL. No one forced him to build Neverland, he did it because he wanted to do it. This blame game that you're playing doesn't cut it with me. People need to start realizing that they are truly individual and first and foremost responsible for their own actions. A neighbor of mine always blames herself because one of her sons can't stay out of jail. He'll get out, then he'll be back 6 months later, and it makes her believe she did something wrong. And that's bullshit. She played no part in that. She raised him and his siblings like any loving parent would to the best of her ability yet he wanted to do things his way for as long as I can remember. Got involved with the wrong crowd and now suffers the consequences for his own behavior. The excuse card is very common honey and it's played about everyday but it's a card that I never got behind 100%. Michael was the one who continuously backed himself in the corner. He was the one that felt he didn't need his father as a manager anymore and fired him. He was the one that moved out the house. He was the one that chose to hang around all these shady people. He was the one that wanted to be on his own professionally. He was the one that was insecure enough for the surgery. He was the one that didn't pick up the phone when his own family was calling and he was the one that built the walls he surrounded himself with. Yal can try to hype up this Joe this and Joe that all you want but at the end of the day Michael was a grown man who made and was responsible for his own decisions. No, the excuse here my friends isn't necessarily about how tough of a disciplinarion his father was, (the other 8 seemed to have taken it differently) but is rather, like I hinted at yesterday, about the pressure of fame and being unable to deal with it. Michael and Marlon are what, a year apart? What made Michael's outlook on his childhood or lack-there-of so different than Marlon's? Because Marlon Jackson isn't Michael Jackson. It's simple. Yes they were close in age but the pressure on 11-year-old Marlon couldn't even begin to compete with the pressure that 10-year-old Michael faced. Add some of the sharks that came into his life later on and you're left with the tragedy we all witnessed in June. So is that his family's fault? No, the real drama came after. Go on youtube and look up some old clips of the brothers & sisters while they were still all together, cause from my advantage point that's when Michael seemed to be the happiest. When they were around each other before other interests and influences threw in their 2 cents. That's when the downward spiral began. And the Jackson family wasn't the spark that lit the fire. I didn't even read this, because you ignored my other posts in which I gave you evidence of Joe's monstruous mind. The post you just quoted wasn't even part of our discussion and was the easiest one for you to continue the "Joe is a big ole teddy bear" argument. Read my other posts first and counter argument them. Or...did someone started seeing Joe's true colours? Funny, how you didn't quote my other posts in which I talked about Joe's abusive, monstruous, despicable and unnaceptable PROVED behaviour. [Edited 12/26/09 15:47pm] | |
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By reading the first two lines of your post, Music, I realized that you continue insisting in calling me a "worshipper" who "blames everyone but Michael". I used Neverland as an example of something wrong in Michael's mind that can only have its origins in his childhood. I didn't claim his brothers or whatever forced him to build that thing or whatever you claimed. Funny how you twisted everything. Neverland is a material proof that something HAD to be wrong with the guy's childhood. Or am I lying? Well, after all, I enjoy playing blame games, isn't it? [Edited 12/26/09 15:53pm] | |
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Music, there's a reason as to why all the siblings fired Joe as their manager. Joe wanted his sons to be profitable for him, not successful.
Second, do you really believe Michael's siblings think Joe was just old-school? Well, they say that in order to protect the family's image. C'mon: YOU KNOW what the brothers have told friends/members of the family about Joe. YOU KNOW that Latoya's book (the first half) is true (and, the stories she tells there COINCIDE with other members' stories). She even said the first half was true! When Latoya went to Jensen, in 2006, and said: "I grew up in an abusive family" and then started stuttering, her voice became weak, she started looking around and in a "oops-I-told-the-truth-without-wanting-to-do-so" voice said: "Uh...hummm..[embarrassed voice].uh...[stops]No! Humm...Humm...you know what's so funny..humm [stops, looks embarrassed]. My father is a darn good person..." It's clear they are trying to protect the family's image. Jermaine is an expert in doing so! BTW, did you forget to read what Randy did to Michael, in 2005? Did you forget to read what Joe and Leonard Rowe did to Michael, in the last days of his life? Did you forget to read what people close to Michael said Joe did to him? Did you forget to read about Joe's proved verbal, emotional and physycal abuse? Did you forget to read some stories about just how greedy, jealous, mean, horrible and despicable some of MJ'S siblings are? Did you forget to read about the sharks (ex: Don King, L. Rowe) Joe Jackson introduced to Michael? Oops...I guess someone has selective memory. [Edited 12/26/09 16:08pm] [Edited 12/26/09 16:10pm] [Edited 12/26/09 16:13pm] | |
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MOL said: musicjunky318 said: Yea but who are you trying to pin that on, Joe? The brothers? Katherine? I find it odd how everyone else always seems to be at fault for Michael's choices in your postings MOL. No one forced him to build Neverland, he did it because he wanted to do it. This blame game that you're playing doesn't cut it with me. People need to start realizing that they are truly individual and first and foremost responsible for their own actions. A neighbor of mine always blames herself because one of her sons can't stay out of jail. He'll get out, then he'll be back 6 months later, and it makes her believe she did something wrong. And that's bullshit. She played no part in that. She raised him and his siblings like any loving parent would to the best of her ability yet he wanted to do things his way for as long as I can remember. Got involved with the wrong crowd and now suffers the consequences for his own behavior. The excuse card is very common honey and it's played about everyday but it's a card that I never got behind 100%. Michael was the one who continuously backed himself in the corner. He was the one that felt he didn't need his father as a manager anymore and fired him. He was the one that moved out the house. He was the one that chose to hang around all these shady people. He was the one that wanted to be on his own professionally. He was the one that was insecure enough for the surgery. He was the one that didn't pick up the phone when his own family was calling and he was the one that built the walls he surrounded himself with. Yal can try to hype up this Joe this and Joe that all you want but at the end of the day Michael was a grown man who made and was responsible for his own decisions. No, the excuse here my friends isn't necessarily about how tough of a disciplinarion his father was, (the other 8 seemed to have taken it differently) but is rather, like I hinted at yesterday, about the pressure of fame and being unable to deal with it. Michael and Marlon are what, a year apart? What made Michael's outlook on his childhood or lack-there-of so different than Marlon's? Because Marlon Jackson isn't Michael Jackson. It's simple. Yes they were close in age but the pressure on 11-year-old Marlon couldn't even begin to compete with the pressure that 10-year-old Michael faced. Add some of the sharks that came into his life later on and you're left with the tragedy we all witnessed in June. So is that his family's fault? No, the real drama came after. Go on youtube and look up some old clips of the brothers & sisters while they were still all together, cause from my advantage point that's when Michael seemed to be the happiest. When they were around each other before other interests and influences threw in their 2 cents. That's when the downward spiral began. And the Jackson family wasn't the spark that lit the fire. I didn't even read this, because you ignored my other posts in which I gave you evidence of Joe's monstruous mind. The post you just quoted wasn't even part of our discussion and was the easiest one for you to continue the "Joe is a big ole teddy bear" argument. Read my other posts first and counter argument them. Or...did someone started seeing Joe's true colours? Funny, how you didn't quote my other posts in which I talked about Joe's abusive, monstruous, despicable and unnaceptable PROVED behaviour. [Edited 12/26/09 15:47pm] LOL, that's alright you probably couldn't understand it anyway. It's obvious that I'm dealing with an intellectual light-weight here, after this post I think I might be done with you. It seems as though I'm just wasting my time. Oh and I basically summed up your scattered posts by stating that 50% doesn't equal a whole and that it is impossible, no matter how much a Jackson insider you claim to be, to ever fully grasp their relationship since you didn't grow up with them. | |
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musicjunky318 said: MOL said: I didn't even read this, because you ignored my other posts in which I gave you evidence of Joe's monstruous mind. The post you just quoted wasn't even part of our discussion and was the easiest one for you to continue the "Joe is a big ole teddy bear" argument. Read my other posts first and counter argument them. Or...did someone started seeing Joe's true colours? Funny, how you didn't quote my other posts in which I talked about Joe's abusive, monstruous, despicable and unnaceptable PROVED behaviour. [Edited 12/26/09 15:47pm] LOL, that's alright you probably couldn't understand it anyway. It's obvious that I'm dealing with an intellectual light-weight here, after this post I think I might be done with you. It seems as though I'm just wasting my time. Oh and I basically summed up your scattered posts by stating that 50% doesn't equal a whole and that it is impossible, no matter how much a Jackson insider you claim to be, to ever fully grasp their relationship since you didn't grow up with them. The "intellectual light-weight" makes 500€ a month for being one of the Coimbra's Medicine University's best students even though the light-weigh had to sleep without a roof many times. Facts hurt, don't they? That's why you don't address them and YOU KNOW IT. You refused to quote my posts (the ones full of evidence you refuse to ackowlegde). Yet, instead of facing the facts, you claim I am an "worshipper" and a "Jackson insider". You know fully well that I presented you with the facts that you didn't want to face and, in order to avoid doing so, you start ranting about how I am this and that, how I don't know the Jacksons and how there is a lot of love between them. [Edited 12/26/09 16:38pm] [Edited 12/26/09 16:40pm] | |
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I think I might be done with you
You are "done with me" because you are too afraid to accept my challenge. Come on, read the facts! Face them! Don't use the "I'm wasting my time" plus insult argument. Oh honey! That's so old. As if I didn't know you would read my posts. People use the "I'm wasting my time" + insult type of argument when challenged. Person X tries to distort the conversation by claiming that person Y isn't understanding anything despite the fact that X had no arguments whatsoever and knows it's time to face Y's arguments who are much more factual. But person X refuses to face/address those facts and, therefore, tries to "win" (kiddy thing but human nature) the argumentation by claiming (while avoiding to face the facts) that he/she has no time and belittling person Y. Ask Platan what he thinks about that! After all, he was an expert. The thing is: I've read 35+ books related to psychiatry so don't even try to bellitle me by using some "strategic" arguments. You must always realize that you aren't always the smart one while the others are dumb. [Edited 12/26/09 16:58pm] [Edited 12/26/09 16:59pm] | |
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MOL said: musicjunky318 said: LOL, that's alright you probably couldn't understand it anyway. It's obvious that I'm dealing with an intellectual light-weight here, after this post I think I might be done with you. It seems as though I'm just wasting my time. Oh and I basically summed up your scattered posts by stating that 50% doesn't equal a whole and that it is impossible, no matter how much a Jackson insider you claim to be, to ever fully grasp their relationship since you didn't grow up with them. The "intellectual light-weight" makes 500€ a month for being one of the Coimbra's Medicine University's best students even though the light-weigh had to sleep without a roof many times. Facts hurt, don't they? That's why you don't address them and YOU KNOW IT. You refused to quote my posts (the ones full of evidence you refuse to ackowlegde). Yet, instead of facing the facts, you claim I am an "worshipper" and a "Jackson insider". You know fully well that I presented you with the facts that you didn't want to face and, in order to avoid doing so, you start ranting about how I am this and that, how I don't know the Jacksons and how there is a lot of love between them. [Edited 12/26/09 16:38pm] [Edited 12/26/09 16:40pm] what does your education and how much money you earn have to do with any of this? book smarts dont equal common sense,which is what you seem to lack. you like to use the word 'fact' alot, none of us have the facts its all opinions,speculations, or hearsay. you wasnt there to witness anything you say first hand so you are basically repeating things you have heard or read.you also contradict yourself alot by quoting people like latoya or quincy jones,well if you gonna believe certain things they say you have to believe the not so flattering things they have said against mj. | |
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babybugz said: Marlon's son
What is his name? I can't remember. I know a guy who wants to be a singer, wears large headphones with undershirts like that often, has a tattoo on his arm, same complexion, and looks JUST like him in the face. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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WaterInYourBath said: babybugz said: Marlon's son
What is his name? I can't remember. I know a guy who wants to be a singer, wears large headphones with undershirts like that often, has a tattoo on his arm, same complexion, and looks JUST like him in the face. marlon jackson jr, he's trying to be a rapper | |
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I remember he had a myspace a year or two ago promoting his music | |
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fwiw i dont think MOL is saying mj isnt responsible for his actions, she's just saying mj wasn't in your typical (even for black back in the day) family dynamic. this led to him behaving in certain ways which people cant relate to.. i dunno for me, the more i read about him, the more i understand why he did the things he did (as *crazy* as they may seem) | |
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dearmother said: fwiw i dont think MOL is saying mj isnt responsible for his actions, she's just saying mj wasn't in your typical (even for black back in the day) family dynamic. this led to him behaving in certain ways which people cant relate to.. i dunno for me, the more i read about him, the more i understand why he did the things he did (as *crazy* as they may seem)
Well, if MJ is crazy enough to build Neverland, then I guess people were crazy enough to go there. From what I've read over the years, it's an awesome place, and these comments are coming from both kids and adults. I've been curious about going there before he sold it and died. I guess that I'm crazy, too . When you've got money, and nearly a black billionaire, you can pretty much buy what your heart desire, except true love of course. It is true that many people including blacks cannot relate to his wealthy lifestyle. Ain't no denying that his family was dysfunctional, and what family isn't. I agree that bad associations and decisions contribute to his demise. | |
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MOL said: Luv,
"If you ever stop singing, I'll drop you like hot potatoes", Joe told his kids. People don't usually think about it, but Joe was REALLY jealous of Michael. Remember that Joe's ambition was to become a professional singer, with the Falcons. When Michael started becoming recognized as a child prodigy, Joe became so JEALOUS that he insulted Michael wih the most mean-spirited insults one can think about. "You are too ugly to be my child", "I hate your nose", "You're ugly", "You're a nothing", he made fun of his son's acne problem...Joe would say this to Michael. And he beat his kids all the time. He used to lock Michael in closets, make him take off his clothes, then oil his body and finally beat him with a switch or an iron cord. If one of his kids dared to miss a step or a note after 10 hours of rehearsels, Joe would beat them the way I described. He also used to beat his kids and then put salt in the wounds if they asked him to go play. Is that discipline? No, It's abuse. People usually see Joe as a blue collar steel worker, but the fact is that he quited his job after realizing that he could make money off of his kids. He then made his 5 years old son perform for 10 hours a day and, at night, he had to be in a car for 2 hours in order to perform at some strip club. He isolated Michael from the real world and exploited him to no end. Furthermore, Joe was a sex addict. I think that fact is no secret. He didn't hide it from his sons, in fact, Joe encouraged his sons to be sex addicts as well. Joe cheated on Katherine constantly and used the money his kids had earned in order to buy his mistresses gifts. Then Michael fired him as his manager and Joe spent his time making shemes on Michael's back in order to make money off of his son even if that meant interfering in his career. Remember what he and Leonard Rowe did to Michael in the last days of his life? Randy Philips said this; "Michael told me to be careful because his dad would hound him to get a piece of the pie like he always did. Joe always wanted to be in control, he would always be making plans to control Michael and his money.". Remember when Joe used to trick Michael into signing contracts that would benefit Joe exclusively? He had another daughter whom he cared about despite the fact that he never showed Michael affection or love. He told his kids that he was proud of her while treating them as dogs. I could go on and on and on but it's too much. I've read so many things that it makes it impossible for me to see Joe as a human being. He's a monster. [Edited 12/26/09 14:30pm] [Edited 12/26/09 14:40pm] I agree with you that Joe was completely jealous of Michael's talent and success but I think it goes beyond jealousy. In a sick and twisted way I think Joe has inner hatred and took it out on his children. All of those kids look mostly like Joe so when he called any of them or mostly Michael he was really calling himself ugly. I think for whatever failures Joe experienced in life he tried to make up for it through his kids and he did it so well that it became too much for him to handle. What he thought was ugly became beautiful. What was his dream became somebody else's reality. that's why even in MJ's death, this fool still trying to achieve success, still trying to get paid and still trying to live his own dream. Joe Jackson is the most pitiful of all the jackson clan. He will go to his grave being pitiful. | |
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WaterInYourBath said: babybugz said: Marlon's son
What is his name? I can't remember. I know a guy who wants to be a singer, wears large headphones with undershirts like that often, has a tattoo on his arm, same complexion, and looks JUST like him in the face. Did anybody notice that he has a rainbow band on? Nothing wrong with that, just saying that I notice that. [Edited 12/26/09 23:26pm] I'm in the mood for love...simply because your near me. | |
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Girl4both said: WaterInYourBath said: What is his name? I can't remember. I know a guy who wants to be a singer, wears large headphones with undershirts like that often, has a tattoo on his arm, same complexion, and looks JUST like him in the face. Did anybody notice that he has a rainbow band on? Nothing wrong with that, just saying that I notice that. [Edited 12/26/09 23:26pm] Isn't that a "Jamaica" flag band? | |
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DesireeNevermind said: Girl4both said: Did anybody notice that he has a rainbow band on? Nothing wrong with that, just saying that I notice that. [Edited 12/26/09 23:26pm] Isn't that a "Jamaica" flag band? No, I think that's a rainbow band. [Edited 12/26/09 23:51pm] I'm in the mood for love...simply because your near me. | |
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Girl4both said: DesireeNevermind said: Isn't that a "Jamaica" flag band? No, I think that's a rainbow band. Yeah but where's the rainbow in his band? It looks like a Jamaica band. The green, yellow and red are very pronounced and visible and those are the colors of Jamaica. It's also very fashionable among urban youth to wear them. I have several myself and when I wear mine people mistake them for a rainbow bands. [Edited 12/26/09 23:51pm] | |
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he doesn't look all that much like his daddy. maybe a little around the eyes. | |
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