TonyVanDam said:

You all are Live tonight lol

midiscover said:

Alejandra was serious about "keeping it in the family".

Kid: Auntie Alejandra!
Alejandra: I'm not your auntie, I'm your mother!

lawd let's not go there today

ViintageJunkiie said:

Those poor kids!
Claymation is a mess!

MOL said:

I didn't read the book?!


I OWNED THE BOOK! and read it recently twice. And I'm not in denial so let's not go there

I'm saying Jermaine has had his dickhead moments but I believe he did love his brother

midiscover said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

midiscover said:

Jermaine was irresponsible with his personal life back in the days.

But good freaking grief, Jackie was also irresponsible as well. He cheated on his first wife with Paula Abdul (soon to be choreographer of Janet).

TonyVanDam said:

Yea, and he abused Enid and Paula (So I heard)

Are you a Jermaine fan?

midiscover said:

I was always a fan of The Jackson Family as a whole, not just Michael & Janet.
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midiscover said:

Nah, I don't think he was beatin' on Enid. Homegirl, rest her soul, seemed like the kind of chick who'd cut a nucca and then nurse him back to health with a smirk on her face

Wonder why Jackie missed on the Victory Tour except the last LA shows?

'Cause Enid hit him with her car!

bboy87 said:

What does she look like?

midiscover said:

This is her in '73 when she and Jackie first got married


she passed away in 1997

bboy87 said:

Jackie suffer a broken leg that prevent him from doing most of The Victory Tour. Therefore, the fans had to settle for the Tito/Jermaine/Marlon/Michael/Randy line-up.

bboy87 said:

Enid also died broke. I remember that she told her story on one of those 90's tabloid news shows (A Current Affair?) that Jackie didn't give her any money after their divorce settlement. I think he also filed for bankruptcy.
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Marrk said:

I so agree with this. I do believe if MJ remained closer to his family, professionally and emotionally, half of the crap that happened in the last 20 years of his life wouldn't have happened. MJ legendary status was sealed in the first 20 years of his career and for most of that time he was still part of the Jacksons, even when he was producing stuff like OTW and Thriller.

I don't believe that all his family were just out for his money, there was obvious love for him too. Having said that it is obvious that some members of his family ie, Daddy dearest, saw him as a cash cow and therefore I can understand why he distanced himself from his family. So many things became alot clearer after his death.

mimi07 said:

Tivo time!!! I hope this show is really good as the previews look(s). They've really all have aged well. Jermaine would have aged well if it wasnt for the surgery and the greasy face.

kibbles said:

Yes I have to agree; Jermaine has always came off as being a greasy face fame whore. And the way that he cheated with Randy's girlfriend, that was just bogus!
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TonyVanDam said:

Jackie seems so sweet and soft spoken. Hate to think about him beating on his women

I told yal. Look at what Claymaine & Randy are doin with Michael's money. They got their chirren runnin around hotels and shit in Vegas like they own the place. And I thought Claymaine said they would all be at Hayvenhurst on Thanksgiving?

Fans Kept Guessing About "Jackson 4" Reunion

By Jill Serjeant

Michael Jackson's death put a sudden end to long-rumored plans for a Jackson 5 reunion, but brother Jermaine on Friday kept fans guessing about whether there might be a "Jackson 4" concert next year.

"Those plans are in the works but you have to wait and see where it goes", Jermaine Jackson told reporters, referring to an upcoming reality TV show about the famous singing family.

"The Jacksons: A Family Dynasty," which begins airing on Dec 13 on the A&E network, follows original members Jermaine, Jackie, Tito and Marlon as they planned for a tentative 40th anniversary reunion of the Jackson 5 before -- and after -- the sudden death in June of their younger brother Michael.

The Jackson 5, with Michael as the key singer, were one of Motown's biggest acts in the early 1970s, scoring hit songs such as "ABC" and "I'll Be There."

Producers on Friday said fans would have to watch the six-episode show to find out whether the brothers decide to go ahead in some form, without Michael.

"That is a surprise ending...so you have to stay tuned for that. The guys live all of those answers out on camera," said executive producer Jodi Gomes.

Gomes and Jermaine Jackson also denied reports from earlier this year that his late brother's three young children would appear on the TV show, citing respect for Michael's efforts to keep them away from the media spotlight during his life.

"There was never any intention to put Michael's children on the show before or after his death," Gomes said.

The TV show began shooting the sometimes fractious four brothers in the spring of 2009, following them to dance rehearsals and recording studios and back to their humble beginnings in Gary, Indiana as they tried to put together plans for a Jackson 5 reunion.

It also gives the first inside look on how they dealt with their brother's June 25 death and its aftermath. Brother Jackie, 58, breaks into tears as he recalls hearing about Michael's death on his car radio.

"We were voted the No.1 family for the world to know more about way before Michael's passing," Jermaine told reporters.

"We are doing what he would want us to do. This is the best connection we have with the fans who want so much more from the family," he added, explaining the decision to continue filming after Michael's death.

"For so many years we have never revealed who we really are," Jermaine said. "You knew us on stage, but (now) we get a chance to be ourselves off stage."

It is unclear whether Michael Jackson, who does not appear in the TV show and who was rehearsing for his own comeback concerts in London when he died suddenly in June, seriously planned to take part in the much talked-about reunion of the band that made him a child star in the 1960s.

Jermaine Jackson said he was still finding it hard to listen to the band's old music.

"I think about Michael every moment," he said. "We will never be the Jackson 5 again."

http://abcnews.go.com/Ent...id=9252931

musicjunky318 said:

don't worry about it, they're having harmless fun

mimi07 said:

Yea but who paid for the trip, oh yea MICHAEL.

musicjunky318 said:

u don't know that and if so then so what? prince ,paris and blanket are also there with them.
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Jermaine is actually looking really good in that interview, and I've NEVER found him attractive, but hes probably the best looking one out of all of them now. I dont find many of the Jackson grandkids very pleasant to look at either but his kid Jafar is good looking too.

I'm actually excited to see this show. Although I find most of the Jackson family members disturbing on paper, when I see them on camera I cant help but feel a real fondness for them. I think underneath it they're good people, I just dont think they were strong enough to stand hollywood and it took their dysfunction (which all familys have) to insane levels

musicjunky318 said:

And you know this how?

MOL said:

So, are you close enough to the family to back up all of this...have you ever spent any time with any of them...?

musicjunky318 said:

1. It's not that expensive to hang out in Vegas, anyone can go there, it's not all that. How are they acting like they own the place?

2. How do you know Michael's money paid for their hotel? As many public appearances as Claymaine (gotta give it up to you for that moniker) does in Europe and the Middle East, I'm pretty sure he's straight for dough. Same for Latoya; she's a Z-List celebrity if there ever was one, but that chick is a straight hustler business-wise, and knows how to use the power of her name to command appearance and endorsement fees that everyday folk would never dream of from a person that's not a regular fixture on TMZ or US Magazine.

whatsgoingon said:

And what about this:

Michael wanted to do more solo albums. By 1980, after OTW, he wanted to record another solo album. He was young and fresh. He wasn't being attacked by the media yet and his superstar status didn't touch the sky. Critics didn't demand perfection from him, so he could concentrate 100% on his music. That's why he was prolific and made great music. He would've mantained an even healthier career without his brothers. To claim his brothers are the reason behind his success would be laughable if it wasn't so ridiculous. The family didn't even want him to go solo! Joe and Jermaine did everything they could to stop Thriller from being released. Remember Jermaine telling Michael that Thriller was a bunch of junk? Remember Joe's studio outbursts?

He lost his work ethic because he didn't have proper guidance at home. Because as he grew as an artist, his brothers' jealously and his father's greedyness increased, also grew. He lost his work ethic because he lost his love for the music businness. He was, by then, the biggest star the world had ever known and the media waited for him with forks and knifes. His family saw him as an object and Michael knew it. He was denial, but the fact is that he knew that even his own family didn't give two craps about him. Michael traumas hit him as was expected. He started seeing everyone's true colours and a battle inside his own head started.

Imagine the Jacksons didn't exist in Michae's life. He would have a loving family who wouldn't torture him all his life. He would eventually have a normal childhood and feel loved. His home life wouldn't be a circus (research about life with the Jacksons in Hayvenhurst) and he would be a down-to-earth person. There would be no scandals and, certainly, no early deaths. So, I totally disagree with you: Michael's career and personal life would be hailed as an example. But his family messed everything up. The man had traumas and was always sad. Did he traumatize himself? No. Is there a reason as to why he was always said? Yes. Imagine you had the Jacksons as a family. Imagine your family was your biggest enemy.



To sum up, Michael would have been BIGGER and BETTER without his crappy family.

There's a reason as to why he died first: because he was perceived as the family's object and he knew it. Put yourself in his place. In the MJ land truth is stranger than fiction and there's an undeniable fact: the guy's family certainly contribute to that stranger than fiction truth.


Michael to LMP: "I wonder what is it like to be loved by my family without them thinking in what they want me to do for them next."

Get why he died first? Because he was the object which was used by everybody without decency.