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Printablebabybugz said: TD3 said: It must difficult to have people judge your every action, remark, and decisions and have some people (myself included) think they can claim a definitive knowledge about your life just because media/press said so. To be fair, I think a lot of lies, half truths have been laid at the Jacksons' family feet also. Far to many times just because such bullshit is repeated and often it's taken as gospel. In a nutshell, what's bewailed the Jackson's has been repeated time and time in the entrainment/music industry. Artist/musicians inability to manage and function in a hedonistic industry. Review the names of their formers label mates at Motown and what be-failed them. It appears people who've had somewhat dysfunctional or difficulties family lives seek music as a profession and regrettable fame appears to exacerbate their insecurities and foibles. As someone said when you become rich and famous, there is no handbook/manual/guide to get you through it. In my opinion one can't spend a life continuing to lay all the blame for your actions, troubles, or poor decisions on daddy or mommy either. Some if not most mistakes are Yours, own them. All the Jackson (with exception of Janet & Reba) haven't managed their lives very well, specifically speaking of their finances. All have been broke, on their ass, and mismanage/squandered millions and the case of Michael, billions. Have said that..... I like SoulAlive I have trepidation about them doing the show and wonder what good if anything would come from it. I was really surprised Marlon signed on too. But listening to them talking lil' bit about their lives and the life they shared with their late brother, they loved him and Michael loved his brothers, his family. I have siblings and it's taken us some time to mature to respect that just because we see some events differently doesn't discredit either perspectives. In fact to be dismissive of someone feeling/perceptions may be just as wrong, disrespectful. Some thing are resolved and somethings a Jermaine said, 'You agree to respectively disagree but at the end of the day you love each other madly and have each others back'. I'm sure they've all said and done things they've regretted. I would think the death of Michael put somethings in proper perspective and they've all realized on some issues were mole hills were made out of mountains, all they have each other no matter what. I guess it depends on your birth where you timeline starts by mine starts' in the 60's when the Jackson 5 played in local talent contest in Gary, and they played after school sock hops before the became 'THE JACKSON FIVE'. I bought all the records and albums and "shit" and followed supported them ...Michael became a solo career; only taking a step back after the release of "Thriller". It's silly to talk to speak of Michael Jackson brothers as gum under his shoes to be scrapped off so he could move on to bigger and better things. He didn't start off as a solo artist and walking instep with them prepared and nurtured a brilliant artist, they deserve and have earned the respect to bee viewed and known as artist musicians who've were once apart one a Legendary group name, The Jackson 5/The Jackson's. (IMHO) I had heard about the show a while back , way before michael died and I had interest in it.I was interested in what his brothers were doing because you don't hear alot about them and compare to alot of michael's stan I don't just skip to thriller etc i'm a fan of the jackson 5/jacksons as well(Even though Michael my main one but still lol)I just have a feeling the show might back fire on them or expose to many other things but I'll watch the first two episodes . I doubt if I will be watching on a regular basis though . All the Jackson (with exception of Janet & Reba) Reba??? LOL  I'm in the mood for love...simply because your near me. | |
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TD3 said: mimi07 said: It must difficult to have people judge your every action, remark, and decisions and have some people (myself included) think they can claim a definitive knowledge about your life just because media/press said so. To be fair, I think a lot of lies, half truths have been laid at the Jacksons' family feet also. Far to many times just because such bullshit is repeated and often, it's taken as gospel. In a nutshell, what's bewailed the Jackson's has been repeated time and time in the entrainment/music industry. Artist/musicians inability to manage and function in a hedonistic/ruthless industry. Review the names of their formers label mates at Motown and what be-failed them. It appears people who've had somewhat dysfunctional or difficulties family lives seek music as a profession and regrettable fame appears to exacerbate their insecurities and foibles. As someone said, 'When you become rich and famous, there is no handbook/manual/guide to get you through it'. In my opinion one can't spend a life continuing to lay all the blame for your actions, troubles, or poor decisions on daddy or mommy either. Some if not most mistakes are Yours, own them. All the Jackson (with exception of Janet & Reba) haven't managed their lives very well, specifically speaking of their finances. All have been broke, on their ass, and mismanage/squandered millions and the case of Michael, billions. Having said that..... Like SoulAlive, I have trepidation about them doing the show and wonder what good if anything would come from it. I was really surprised Marlon signed on too. But listening to them talking lil' bit about their lives and the life they shared with their late brother, they loved him and Michael loved his brothers, his family. I have siblings and it's taken us some time to mature to respect that just because we see some events differently doesn't discredit either perspectives. In fact, to be dismissive of someone feeling/perceptions may be just as wrong, disrespectful. Somethings are resolved and somethings a Jermaine said, 'You agree to respectively disagree but at the end of the day you love each other madly and have each others back'. I'm sure they've all said and done things they've regretted. I would like to think the death of Michael put somethings in proper perspective and they've all realized on some issues mole hills were made out of mountains and all they have is each other no matter what. I guess it depends on your birth, where your timeline starts, mine starts' in the 60's when 'The Jackson 5' played in local talent contest in Gary and at after school sock hops before the became 'THE JACKSON FIVE'. I bought all the records, albums, the "shit", concerts tickets, and followed supported them ...Michael's solo career, only taking a step back after the release of "Thriller". It's silly to speak of Michael Jackson brothers as gum under his shoes to be scrapped off so he could move on to bigger and better things. He didn't start off as a solo artist and he walked instep with them which prepared and nurtured a brilliant artist. Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, Marlon, and Randy deserve and have earned the respect to be viewed and known as artist/musicians who were once apart of and contributed to a Legendary music group named, The Jackson 5/The Jackson's respectively. (IMHO) ===== [Edited 12/7/09 19:04pm] They all go along with the lie and Michael comes off as a liar who viciously attacked his big ole teddy bear father. | |
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MOL said: TD3 said: It must difficult to have people judge your every action, remark, and decisions and have some people (myself included) think they can claim a definitive knowledge about your life just because media/press said so. To be fair, I think a lot of lies, half truths have been laid at the Jacksons' family feet also. Far to many times just because such bullshit is repeated and often, it's taken as gospel. In a nutshell, what's bewailed the Jackson's has been repeated time and time in the entrainment/music industry. Artist/musicians inability to manage and function in a hedonistic/ruthless industry. Review the names of their formers label mates at Motown and what be-failed them. It appears people who've had somewhat dysfunctional or difficulties family lives seek music as a profession and regrettable fame appears to exacerbate their insecurities and foibles. As someone said, 'When you become rich and famous, there is no handbook/manual/guide to get you through it'. In my opinion one can't spend a life continuing to lay all the blame for your actions, troubles, or poor decisions on daddy or mommy either. Some if not most mistakes are Yours, own them. All the Jackson (with exception of Janet & Reba) haven't managed their lives very well, specifically speaking of their finances. All have been broke, on their ass, and mismanage/squandered millions and the case of Michael, billions. Having said that..... Like SoulAlive, I have trepidation about them doing the show and wonder what good if anything would come from it. I was really surprised Marlon signed on too. But listening to them talking lil' bit about their lives and the life they shared with their late brother, they loved him and Michael loved his brothers, his family. I have siblings and it's taken us some time to mature to respect that just because we see some events differently doesn't discredit either perspectives. In fact, to be dismissive of someone feeling/perceptions may be just as wrong, disrespectful. Somethings are resolved and somethings a Jermaine said, 'You agree to respectively disagree but at the end of the day you love each other madly and have each others back'. I'm sure they've all said and done things they've regretted. I would like to think the death of Michael put somethings in proper perspective and they've all realized on some issues mole hills were made out of mountains and all they have is each other no matter what. I guess it depends on your birth, where your timeline starts, mine starts' in the 60's when 'The Jackson 5' played in local talent contest in Gary and at after school sock hops before the became 'THE JACKSON FIVE'. I bought all the records, albums, the "shit", concerts tickets, and followed supported them ...Michael's solo career, only taking a step back after the release of "Thriller". It's silly to speak of Michael Jackson brothers as gum under his shoes to be scrapped off so he could move on to bigger and better things. He didn't start off as a solo artist and he walked instep with them which prepared and nurtured a brilliant artist. Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, Marlon, and Randy deserve and have earned the respect to be viewed and known as artist/musicians who were once apart of and contributed to a Legendary music group named, The Jackson 5/The Jackson's respectively. (IMHO) ===== [Edited 12/7/09 19:04pm] They all go along with the lie and Michael comes off as a liar who viciously attacked his big ole teddy bear father. no I don't consider them liars as regards to joseph- it's just their opinion- and michael had his opinion. my mom was strict like that that- and I "- sometimes that's just how it is in families- they have "come to terms" with their abuser..... LOVE HARD. | |
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Girl4both said: babybugz said: I had heard about the show a while back , way before michael died and I had interest in it.I was interested in what his brothers were doing because you don't hear alot about them and compare to alot of michael's stan I don't just skip to thriller etc i'm a fan of the jackson 5/jacksons as well(Even though Michael my main one but still lol)I just have a feeling the show might back fire on them or expose to many other things but I'll watch the first two episodes . I doubt if I will be watching on a regular basis though . All the Jackson (with exception of Janet & Reba) Reba??? LOL ... reba[Edited 12/8/09 16:42pm] "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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Girl4both said: babybugz said: I had heard about the show a while back , way before michael died and I had interest in it.I was interested in what his brothers were doing because you don't hear alot about them and compare to alot of michael's stan I don't just skip to thriller etc i'm a fan of the jackson 5/jacksons as well(Even though Michael my main one but still lol)I just have a feeling the show might back fire on them or expose to many other things but I'll watch the first two episodes . I doubt if I will be watching on a regular basis though . All the Jackson (with exception of Janet & Reba) Reba??? LOL ????? I don't get what you saying | |
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they're on larry king NOW "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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it was a good interview, can't wait for the show! [Edited 12/8/09 19:12pm] "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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mimi07 said: it was a good interview, can't wait for the show!
[Edited 12/8/09 19:12pm] Yes I enjoyed the interview. I will be watching their show on Sunday. "And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ 
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It was nice to see them all together again. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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Where was Jermaine? wasn't on Jimmy Kimmel. PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever ----- Live Your Life How U Wanna Live It | |
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LittleBLUECorvette said: Where was Jermaine? wasn't on Jimmy Kimmel.
His hair grease was runnin' on E
I think he knows what's up with certain tv hosts. Kimmel was always a bitch to Michael "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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I can't believe he asked about Jermajesty's name.  [Edited 12/9/09 5:39am] Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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Looks interesting. | |
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bboy87 said: MOL said: Remember what Jermaine told his family after Michael was accused of paedophilia? "Fuck Michael. He's tarnishing the family's image.". Everyone knew that the allegations agaisnt Michael were the perfect time for Jermaine to be in the spotglight. Margaret said this: "Privately, Jermaine was blaming Michael and, a part of him, was happier than ever. In public, he gave interview after interview supporting his brother. He would [during the interviews] always be holding hands with our sons despite the fact that he refused to wish them happy birthday or even call them in Christmas. He was hounding the spotligth after Michael was accused. (...) He then flew with Joseph and Katherine to Bangkok. They were going to see Michael for the first time after the allegations. Jermaine had told the media that he was going to give his brother emotional support. What the media didn't know was that Michael's welfare was not on Jermaine's mind. In fact, Jermaine brought the Family Honors show contract with him, on his pocket. The first thing he did along with Joseph, when he saw Michael, was pressure him to appear on that show. He never bothered to ask how was Michael doing. He spent the 2 days in Bangkok pressuring his brother to appear on the "Jackson Family Honors". When he came back to America, Jermaine immediately gave an interview stating that his "little brother cried on his shoulder, thanking [him] for the support.". At home he would boast about the fact that he and Joseph were able to control Michael because he "was weak, more controllable.". Both Joseph and Jermaine were happier than ever. Once again, Michael was going to be their puppet.[extract from Maldonaldo's book]. What a good brother, uh? [Edited 12/4/09 12:31pm] [Edited 12/4/09 12:32pm] [Edited 12/4/09 12:36pm] Jermaine cared about Michael. They had their differences and Jermaine had his dickhead moments but dude loved his brother. I read Margaret's book and nowhere did I read Jermaine saying "fuck michael" I've seen the faxes and letters Jermaine sent to Michael after Word To The Badd! and before the Jackson Family Honors and he wanted Michael to be apart of not only the show, but be apart of the family Micheal did say in his book "Moonwalker" that he and Jermaine were very close during the J5 years. When they left Motown and Jermaine stayed, MJ said he took it hard. | |
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angel345 said: bboy87 said: Jermaine cared about Michael. They had their differences and Jermaine had his dickhead moments but dude loved his brother. I read Margaret's book and nowhere did I read Jermaine saying "fuck michael" I've seen the faxes and letters Jermaine sent to Michael after Word To The Badd! and before the Jackson Family Honors and he wanted Michael to be apart of not only the show, but be apart of the family Micheal did say in his book "Moonwalker" that he and Jermaine were very close during the J5 years. When they left Motown and Jermaine stayed, MJ said he took it hard. At the end of the day.....they were brothers. Who cares what the public thinks? | |
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Graycap23 said: angel345 said: Micheal did say in his book "Moonwalker" that he and Jermaine were very close during the J5 years. When they left Motown and Jermaine stayed, MJ said he took it hard. At the end of the day.....they were brothers. Who cares what the public thinks? Sure  | |
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bboy87 said: LittleBLUECorvette said: Where was Jermaine? wasn't on Jimmy Kimmel.
His hair grease was runnin' on E
I think he knows what's up with certain tv hosts. Kimmel was always a bitch to Michael Dead @ his hair grease was running on E....time for another Dax/Murray refill: 
What did Jimmy Kimmel use to say about MJ?? Didnt pretty much every late night talk show host talk about him?? I'm in the mood for love...simply because your near me. | |
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Girl4both said: bboy87 said: His hair grease was runnin' on E
I think he knows what's up with certain tv hosts. Kimmel was always a bitch to Michael Dead @ his hair grease was running on E....time for another Dax/Murray refill:
What did Jimmy Kimmel use to say about MJ?? Didnt pretty much every late night talk show host talk about him?? True, but even shortly after Michael passed away, he was still disrespectful "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Kimmel was just being honest
funny how this thread gets over 5000 views gee, could it be because the title says "right now"? mods...pls. change the title and stick this in the MJ sticky where it belongs thanks | |
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Their interview with Bonnie Hunt on her show yesterday was very good.  But once again, Jermaine was not present, lol."You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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japanrocks said: Kimmel was just being honest
funny how this thread gets over 5000 views gee, could it be because the title says "right now"? mods...pls. change the title and stick this in the MJ sticky where it belongs thanks shhhhh "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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WaterInYourBath said: Their interview with Bonnie Hunt on her show yesterday was very good.
But once again, Jermaine was not present, lol.he's always M.I.A. "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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bboy87 said: Girl4both said: Dead @ his hair grease was running on E....time for another Dax/Murray refill: What did Jimmy Kimmel use to say about MJ?? Didnt pretty much every late night talk show host talk about him?? True, but even shortly after Michael passed away, he was still disrespectful What did he say after he passed away? | |
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Marlon: Jermaine is JER-missing
>>Classic<< I'm in the mood for love...simply because your near me. | |
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japanrocks said: Kimmel was just being honest
funny how this thread gets over 5000 views gee, could it be because the title says "right now"? mods...pls. change the title and stick this in the MJ sticky where it belongs thanks Ehy, this isn't about Michael ... PRINCE: Always and Forever
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