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Reply #420 posted 12/21/09 7:21am

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dreamfactory313 said:


omfg

lol I know! I was so speechless when I read that too. WOW! NO ONE can do that but MJ. I know that the music market has changed and whatnot, but MJ is still selling more than anybody. Which makes me think that is not that people don't buy albums anymore, but rather are willing to pay for stuff they consider is actually worth their money, and they download stuff they like but not necessarily think is worth their 9,99 LOL

eek Only Mike. headbang
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Reply #421 posted 12/21/09 10:05am

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Reply #422 posted 12/21/09 11:08am

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mimi07 said:

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LOL. His body looked right though. lol

I remember when I first saw this HD footage on that "MJ: The One" special on CBS in 2003, I wanted Mike to release that full concert on DVD. I mean, it's just sitting around in archives, why not? pout

i have The One on dvd lol i haven't watched it in years
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Yep! So do I. biggrin
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Reply #423 posted 12/21/09 11:12am

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Did anyone else watch 'Move Like Michael Jackson' this week on BBC Three? I thought it would be a bunch of annoying fans/impersonators but there were some really great dancers and MJ inspired performances. The final was last night.

Unfortunately only for UK viewers: http://www.bbc.co.uk/ipla...son_Final/

I thought the winners were very deserving - not over-complicated like a lot of other acts and they actually danced to the music instead of working around their acrobatics trying to stay in time.
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Reply #424 posted 12/21/09 6:33pm

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been watching the jacksons and it got me wondering,

which of the brothers do you all think mj was closest to? surely not jermaine, right? lol
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Reply #425 posted 12/21/09 6:55pm

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been watching the jacksons and it got me wondering,

which of the brothers do you all think mj was closest to? surely not jermaine, right? lol

He was closest to Marlon in age. I dunno. shrug
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Reply #426 posted 12/21/09 7:11pm

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dreamfactory313 said:

dearmother said:

been watching the jacksons and it got me wondering,

which of the brothers do you all think mj was closest to? surely not jermaine, right? lol

He was closest to Marlon in age. I dunno. shrug

Randy, Jermaine and Marlon.
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Reply #427 posted 12/21/09 8:12pm

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dearmother said:

been watching the jacksons and it got me wondering,

which of the brothers do you all think mj was closest to? surely not jermaine, right? lol


Definitely Marlon....until he got married.
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Reply #428 posted 12/21/09 11:05pm

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dreamfactory313 said:


He was closest to Marlon in age. I dunno. shrug

Randy, Jermaine and Marlon.

Out of the three, it was Jermaine.
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Reply #429 posted 12/22/09 8:35am

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So for Christmas..Michael's kids are adjusting to their Dad's death, and trying to cope, innocent children, and yet Conrad Murray is walking free, with his hooker girlfriend, sketchy adult. Something isn't just in the world. mad
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Reply #430 posted 12/22/09 10:49am

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Jackson Death Threat -- All Over a Woman
Posted Dec 22nd 2009 11:48AM by TMZ Staff

The person who threatened to kill Michael Jackson unless he got money also threatened to slaughter people at a Michael Jackson concert, according to documents just released by the FBI .. and it all appears to be a scheme to get a woman to notice him.

The person who wrote the threatening letters says, "I'll commit mass murder at a Michael Jackson concert if necessary, in an attempt to murder Michael, then you will have to deal with my situation in the public eye."

It appears from the letters the writer wants mobster John Gotti to fork over money and if he doesn't ... the writer threatens to kill Michael.

The person who wrote the letters appears to be obsessed with a woman and is making these threats to get her attention. Some of the letters were written to newspapers. He says, "I'm 33 years old and never had a real relationship in my life. I can't even slow dance."

The man was arrested on May 22, 1992 outside the White House. He was released on June 4, 1992, and one day later made threats to kill Michael Jackson.

Jackson Stalker Obsessed with Janet Jackson
Posted Dec 22nd 2009 12:06PM by TMZ Staff

The man who threatened to kill Michael Jackson believed he was married to Janet Jackson -- and law enforcement sources tell TMZ it was Janet that the man was obsessed over.

A law enforcement source tells TMZ the man also made threats to kill Janet and even showed up at the Jackson family home in Encino.

In his rambling letters, the man -- Frank Paul Jones -- says "The situation ... is centered around her confused sexuality." He goes on to say if she does not "overcome" her issue over sexuality, "I'm gonna try to kill every homosexual on the face of the earth. If I can't save my wife, they can't be saved."

FBI Involved in Michael Jackson Molestation Trial
Posted Dec 22nd 2009 12:29PM by TMZ Staff

UPDATE: In our document search, we just found out why the FBI was involved in the Michael Jackson molestation case. According to one of the docs, the LAPD Sexually Exploited Child Unit contacted the FBI in 1993, asking the agency if it would be "interested in working a possible federal violation against Jackson concerning the transportation of a minor across state lines for immoral purposes."

The FBI was secretly involved in the child molestation case against Michael Jackson, according to documents just released by the agency.

In July, 2004, a memo was drafted stating that the Santa Barbara County District Attorney's investigation produced "collateral investigative issues, some of which potentially rise to the level of Federal Violations, in the New York and Miami Divisions as well as the Los Angeles Division." The memo does not elaborate on the nature of the alleged offenses.

According to the docs, FBI special agents from L.A., New York and Miami were assigned to assist Santa Barbara county prosecutors in their case against Jackson -- a case in which Jackson was found not guilty.

The memo says the special agents and prosecutors spent time discussing various strategies in the case.

There are also documents showing the FBI was involved in the 1993 molestation investigation. In one doc, there are notes which state Jackson was riding in a train with a boy whom Jackson identified as his cousin. The notes say, "He was very possessive of boy," and at night on the train a witness "heard questionable noises through wall."

FBI On International Hunt Against Jackson
Posted Dec 22nd 2009 12:46PM by TMZ Staff

The FBI apparently went around the world trying to make a case against Michael Jackson for alleged child molestation.

According to documents just released by the FBI, in 1993 the LAPD and Santa Barbara County Sheriff's deputies "Plan to travel to Manila, Philippines... for the purpose of interviewing (names deleted) concerning their knowledge of accusations against Michael Jackson of sexual abuse of young boys."

We know the people sought to be interviewed were a man and woman who had worked at Neverland from 1988 - 1990 and allegedly witnessed molestation.

According to docs, an FBI special agent was involved in the Manila trip.

And another doc states a legal attache for the U.S. Embassy in London was sending information back home regarding sexual misconduct by Jackson in England ... specifically, a phone call to a teenage boy.

Terrorism Feared at Michael Jackson Trial
Posted Dec 22nd 2009 1:07PM by TMZ Staff

Authorities in the small California town where Michael Jackson stood trial for alleged molestation feared the venue might become a "soft target" for terrorists .. this according to docs just released by the FBI.

According to documents, Santa Maria police asked the FBI to get involved because the "worldwide media coverage" could prove irresistible to terror groups.

The FBI investigated and concluded there was no credible threat, but did note the presence of a "New Black Panther Party" member at Jackson's first court hearing.
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Reply #431 posted 12/22/09 10:55am

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musicjunky318 said:

Jackson Death Threat -- All Over a Woman
Posted Dec 22nd 2009 11:48AM by TMZ Staff

The person who threatened to kill Michael Jackson unless he got money also threatened to slaughter people at a Michael Jackson concert, according to documents just released by the FBI .. and it all appears to be a scheme to get a woman to notice him.

The person who wrote the threatening letters says, "I'll commit mass murder at a Michael Jackson concert if necessary, in an attempt to murder Michael, then you will have to deal with my situation in the public eye."

It appears from the letters the writer wants mobster John Gotti to fork over money and if he doesn't ... the writer threatens to kill Michael.

The person who wrote the letters appears to be obsessed with a woman and is making these threats to get her attention. Some of the letters were written to newspapers. He says, "I'm 33 years old and never had a real relationship in my life. I can't even slow dance."

The man was arrested on May 22, 1992 outside the White House. He was released on June 4, 1992, and one day later made threats to kill Michael Jackson.

Jackson Stalker Obsessed with Janet Jackson
Posted Dec 22nd 2009 12:06PM by TMZ Staff

The man who threatened to kill Michael Jackson believed he was married to Janet Jackson -- and law enforcement sources tell TMZ it was Janet that the man was obsessed over.

A law enforcement source tells TMZ the man also made threats to kill Janet and even showed up at the Jackson family home in Encino.

In his rambling letters, the man -- Frank Paul Jones -- says "The situation ... is centered around her confused sexuality." He goes on to say if she does not "overcome" her issue over sexuality, "I'm gonna try to kill every homosexual on the face of the earth. If I can't save my wife, they can't be saved."

FBI Involved in Michael Jackson Molestation Trial
Posted Dec 22nd 2009 12:29PM by TMZ Staff

UPDATE: In our document search, we just found out why the FBI was involved in the Michael Jackson molestation case. According to one of the docs, the LAPD Sexually Exploited Child Unit contacted the FBI in 1993, asking the agency if it would be "interested in working a possible federal violation against Jackson concerning the transportation of a minor across state lines for immoral purposes."

The FBI was secretly involved in the child molestation case against Michael Jackson, according to documents just released by the agency.

In July, 2004, a memo was drafted stating that the Santa Barbara County District Attorney's investigation produced "collateral investigative issues, some of which potentially rise to the level of Federal Violations, in the New York and Miami Divisions as well as the Los Angeles Division." The memo does not elaborate on the nature of the alleged offenses.

According to the docs, FBI special agents from L.A., New York and Miami were assigned to assist Santa Barbara county prosecutors in their case against Jackson -- a case in which Jackson was found not guilty.

The memo says the special agents and prosecutors spent time discussing various strategies in the case.

There are also documents showing the FBI was involved in the 1993 molestation investigation. In one doc, there are notes which state Jackson was riding in a train with a boy whom Jackson identified as his cousin. The notes say, "He was very possessive of boy," and at night on the train a witness "heard questionable noises through wall."

FBI On International Hunt Against Jackson
Posted Dec 22nd 2009 12:46PM by TMZ Staff

The FBI apparently went around the world trying to make a case against Michael Jackson for alleged child molestation.

According to documents just released by the FBI, in 1993 the LAPD and Santa Barbara County Sheriff's deputies "Plan to travel to Manila, Philippines... for the purpose of interviewing (names deleted) concerning their knowledge of accusations against Michael Jackson of sexual abuse of young boys."

We know the people sought to be interviewed were a man and woman who had worked at Neverland from 1988 - 1990 and allegedly witnessed molestation.

According to docs, an FBI special agent was involved in the Manila trip.

And another doc states a legal attache for the U.S. Embassy in London was sending information back home regarding sexual misconduct by Jackson in England ... specifically, a phone call to a teenage boy.

Terrorism Feared at Michael Jackson Trial
Posted Dec 22nd 2009 1:07PM by TMZ Staff

Authorities in the small California town where Michael Jackson stood trial for alleged molestation feared the venue might become a "soft target" for terrorists .. this according to docs just released by the FBI.

According to documents, Santa Maria police asked the FBI to get involved because the "worldwide media coverage" could prove irresistible to terror groups.

The FBI investigated and concluded there was no credible threat, but did note the presence of a "New Black Panther Party" member at Jackson's first court hearing.
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damn..... neutral
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Reply #432 posted 12/22/09 11:18am

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Vanilli said:

So for Christmas..Michael's kids are adjusting to their Dad's death, and trying to cope, innocent children, and yet Conrad Murray is walking free, with his hooker girlfriend, sketchy adult. Something isn't just in the world. mad

His girlfriend is a hooker? Wow eek
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Reply #433 posted 12/22/09 11:27am

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Another rare show: Dangerous Tour Barcelona

Billie Jean
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrQNBlzMid0[youtube]

smooth criminal


i just can't stop loving you
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Reply #434 posted 12/22/09 11:58am

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I adore the Michael Jackson episode. I´ve seen it only once, but not in English. Was it really Mike speaking there? It sounds like him.

I´d love to have the whole thing.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #435 posted 12/22/09 12:09pm

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dag said:

I adore the Michael Jackson episode. I´ve seen it only once, but not in English. Was it really Mike speaking there? It sounds like him.

I´d love to have the whole thing.

yep it was Michael except for the singing
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Reply #436 posted 12/22/09 12:35pm

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angel345 said:

Vanilli said:

So for Christmas..Michael's kids are adjusting to their Dad's death, and trying to cope, innocent children, and yet Conrad Murray is walking free, with his hooker girlfriend, sketchy adult. Something isn't just in the world. mad

His girlfriend is a hooker? Wow eek


Stripper. Same difference to me, as far as that trash Murray is concerned.
I know he is the reason the police couldn't find the tapes that showed
Michael before he died. They had constant video surveillance in that house
and tapes the morning he died were missing. Hmmmm. mad
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Reply #437 posted 12/22/09 12:37pm

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the US Copyright Office has tapes of these songs



Bad- recorded 1986
Bad (pepsi version)- recorded 1986
Who Do You Know- recorded 1981
Alright Now( written 1989)
Another Part Of Me- recorded 1985
Blood On The Dancefloor- originally from 1991
Cheater- originally from 1987
Dirty Diana- originally written 1983, then 1984, then re written in 1985-1986
Smooth Criminal- originally from 1985
Tomboy- originally from 1985
What You Do To Me- originally from 1985 and then again in 1998
Fanfare Transition- 1992
Ghosts- 1991
Got To Find A Way Somehow- 1979
Holiday Inn- 1976
I Never Heard- 1980 (written by Michael and Paul Anka)
In The Back- originally from 1989
Much Too Soon-1981
Learned My Lesson- 1981
Love Never Felt So Good-originally from 1980
Monkey Business- 1989
Nymphette Lover- 1981
Ode To Sorrow- 1977
The Price of Fame- 1986
Scared Of The Moon- 1985
Why Can't I Be- 1980
Somewhere In Time (1980)
Speed Demon- from 1986
Stand Tall- 1982
Sunset Driver (registered as 1982)
Susie (1978)
Thank Heaven- 1998
Thank You For Life- 1976
That- 1998
This Is It- 1980
Throwin' Your Life Away- 1988
The Toy- 1981
Under Your Skin- 1979
We Are Here To Change The World- 1985
We Are The Ones- 1978
We've Had Enough- 2003
What More Can I Give- 1998
You Ain't Gonna Change Nothin'- 1975
You Told Me Your Lovin' 1979
Doing Dirty (written with Marlon)- 1982
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Reply #438 posted 12/22/09 12:45pm

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bboy87 said:

the US Copyright Office has tapes of these songs



Bad- recorded 1986
Bad (pepsi version)- recorded 1986
Who Do You Know- recorded 1981
Alright Now( written 1989)
Another Part Of Me- recorded 1985
Blood On The Dancefloor- originally from 1991
Cheater- originally from 1987
Dirty Diana- originally written 1983, then 1984, then re written in 1985-1986
Smooth Criminal- originally from 1985
Tomboy- originally from 1985
What You Do To Me- originally from 1985 and then again in 1998
Fanfare Transition- 1992
Ghosts- 1991
Got To Find A Way Somehow- 1979
Holiday Inn- 1976
I Never Heard- 1980 (written by Michael and Paul Anka)
In The Back- originally from 1989
Much Too Soon-1981
Learned My Lesson- 1981
Love Never Felt So Good-originally from 1980
Monkey Business- 1989
Nymphette Lover- 1981
Ode To Sorrow- 1977
The Price of Fame- 1986
Scared Of The Moon- 1985
Why Can't I Be- 1980
Somewhere In Time (1980)
Speed Demon- from 1986
Stand Tall- 1982
Sunset Driver (registered as 1982)
Susie (1978)
Thank Heaven- 1998
Thank You For Life- 1976
That- 1998
This Is It- 1980
Throwin' Your Life Away- 1988
The Toy- 1981
Under Your Skin- 1979
We Are Here To Change The World- 1985
We Are The Ones- 1978
We've Had Enough- 2003
What More Can I Give- 1998
You Ain't Gonna Change Nothin'- 1975
You Told Me Your Lovin' 1979
Doing Dirty (written with Marlon)- 1982


*Sigh* I'd LOVE to have these damn tapes!
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Reply #439 posted 12/22/09 12:55pm

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Nymphette Lover? Now that's one I wanna hear.
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Reply #440 posted 12/22/09 12:56pm

angel345

Vanilli said:

angel345 said:


His girlfriend is a hooker? Wow eek


Stripper. Same difference to me, as far as that trash Murray is concerned.
I know he is the reason the police couldn't find the tapes that showed
Michael before he died. They had constant video surveillance in that house
and tapes the morning he died were missing. Hmmmm. mad

Strange case, very strange disbelief
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Reply #441 posted 12/22/09 12:59pm

angel345

bboy87 said:

dag said:

I adore the Michael Jackson episode. I´ve seen it only once, but not in English. Was it really Mike speaking there? It sounds like him.

I´d love to have the whole thing.

yep it was Michael except for the singing

But that sounds like him singing "Lisa, It's Your Birthday".
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Reply #442 posted 12/22/09 1:31pm

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angel345 said:


But that sounds like him singing "Lisa, It's Your Birthday".

It's not. You can tell the difference now that the actual Lisa, It's Your Birthday is available.
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Reply #443 posted 12/22/09 4:16pm

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angel345 said:

Vanilli said:



Stripper. Same difference to me, as far as that trash Murray is concerned.
I know he is the reason the police couldn't find the tapes that showed
Michael before he died. They had constant video surveillance in that house
and tapes the morning he died were missing. Hmmmm. mad

Strange case, very strange disbelief

He's going to get off disbelief
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Reply #444 posted 12/22/09 4:19pm

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currently watching the dangerous tour on bbc2..
"Dead in the middle of Little Italy little did we know
that we riddled some middleman who didn't do diddily"--BP
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Reply #445 posted 12/22/09 9:59pm

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fbi looking in asia for victems' ?

wtf what is the fbi for an organisation. they seem corrupt as hell.
they dont seem to help anyone with that kinda crap damn.
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Reply #446 posted 12/23/09 12:38am

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Some of the trips were chasing after some of the scumbag ex-employees. They sold stories to the tabloids, skipped the country with the money and didn't want to elaborate or talk to the police, so they came running after them around the world. Idiots.
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Reply #447 posted 12/23/09 12:46am

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Reply #448 posted 12/23/09 1:14am

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Hey everyone,

I just wanted to direct the MJ fans among us to my friend's Facebook group. She is compiling a book, all proceeds going to charity, where you can write a letter, write a poem, or draw or paint something in Michael's memory. She will give you the email address once you join the Facebook page, and more details are listed there as well. Ten books will be given to the Jackson Family.

http://www.facebook.com/h...562?ref=ts

She is needing more entries as the previous deadline was 12/18. She has said the deadline to get entries in is 12/31, but she may extended it if needed because she is wanting a boatload of entries. I would still try and get whatever done before 12/31.

Thanks!
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Reply #449 posted 12/23/09 1:15am

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And my take on the FBI files released today...

http://gatorgirl277.blogs...files.html
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