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Thread started 11/28/09 10:10am

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Bon Jovi Haters?

Even thought their style is same, Jon got big ego, lyrics about the same...but Im still quite a fan ...I wonder why there are so many haters here?

Seriously they outlasted Guns n Roses 5 times (25 years?)

Do let me know why u Hate them (Im curious)
Their latest stuff (Superman tonight, Loves the only rule is amazing !)

These Days (Jon bonjovi with Prince on guitars)

http://www.youtube.com/wa...Ur4gUnbyoQ


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Reply #1 posted 11/28/09 3:04pm

Glindathegood

I don't hate them, but I would never buy a record by them because their style of rock is not what I enjoy.
I like more alternative harder types of rock. I think a lot of people hate them because they feel they are too commercial and corporate. They seem to follow a formula without being very creative or having anything meaningful to say.
Also, to me they don't really have a style of their own. A lot of what to do seems to be copied from Bruce Springsteen although they don't do it as well.
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Reply #2 posted 11/28/09 3:56pm

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I think Jovi have carved their own place, lets face it, if you are from Jersey and you do rock, you are always gonna be compared to Springsteen, whether you play a bar or you play a stadium. As for having something to say, that can be debated, on a track like "Hey God" they were talking about teens blowing away teens with guns, sounds pretty relevant to me. I think something Jon said in the documentary "when we were beautiful" fits very well, he said "im not here to preach to you", the reason the band has maintained its status, and has multiplied it worlwide, is that it writes what goes on, now this may be called playing it safe, but its also safe when Prince does a song like "Call my name" i mean thats painting by numbers for him too. And whether people want to admit this or not, it does take talent to be able to write a 3 minute rock song, and have hooks in it, and i mean write it and actually play on it too. Are they the greatest band? No, we can all debate all day who that is or isnt, but i think Jon most of all was smart enough to get by in this business when its lived and died a few times, the bands with them back then are all gone or fat or doing VH1 reality shows, or dead. So if you hate them, thats cool, i mean alot of people hate RadioHead and they are one the most critically acclaimed bands, so everyone has their place, and Jovi as a band do have talent, like them or not.

And the latest album is very strong, tracks like "When we were beautfiul" and "Bullet" and "Superman Tonight" are relevant, it sounds like a band that has LIVED some life and is writing on what they know. Life isnt always some mysterious lyrics, its many times pretty straight forward

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Reply #3 posted 11/28/09 4:56pm

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Lyrically, they mimic the trappings of mid-period Springsteen without any of the insight. The scope of their music seems to be limited to hair-metal, sappy AC ballads and mainstream-rock-by-numbers.

I see little to recommend them unless you're a female or gay male who finds Jon Bon Jovi attractive.

Not trying to be insulting; that's honestly how I feel. shrug
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Reply #4 posted 11/28/09 5:03pm

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Ace said:

Lyrically, they mimic the trappings of mid-period Springsteen without any of the insight. The scope of their music seems to be limited to hair-metal, sappy AC ballads and mainstream-rock-by-numbers.

I see little to recommend them unless you're a female or gay male who finds Jon Bon Jovi attractive.

Not trying to be insulting; that's honestly how I feel. shrug


Is that a view after listening to every track on every album and seeing shows, or is that a view after hearing hits and seeing girls scream for the band on videos?

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Reply #5 posted 11/28/09 5:12pm

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lastdecember said:

Ace said:

Lyrically, they mimic the trappings of mid-period Springsteen without any of the insight. The scope of their music seems to be limited to hair-metal, sappy AC ballads and mainstream-rock-by-numbers.

I see little to recommend them unless you're a female or gay male who finds Jon Bon Jovi attractive.

Not trying to be insulting; that's honestly how I feel. shrug


Is that a view after listening to every track on every album and seeing shows, or is that a view after hearing hits and seeing girls scream for the band on videos?



If he'd listened to every track on every album and gone to shows, he'd be a fan, which clearly he's not, so your point is pretty... well, pointless.
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Reply #6 posted 11/28/09 5:32pm

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errant said:

lastdecember said:



Is that a view after listening to every track on every album and seeing shows, or is that a view after hearing hits and seeing girls scream for the band on videos?



If he'd listened to every track on every album and gone to shows, he'd be a fan, which clearly he's not, so your point is pretty... well, pointless.


Oh not true, i have every Radiohead album and im not a "fan" nor would i champion them as the greatest band ever which some people do. You see that kind of nonsense is why i dont listen to reviews, truth is a FAN is someone that will give you a better view than someone that has heard a few songs. AND IT WAS A QUESTION to the poster, look at how it was constructed, its BULLSHIT that a fan cant have a view on a artist, but someone that hates something and always has is given more note.

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Reply #7 posted 11/28/09 5:34pm

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lastdecember said:

errant said:




If he'd listened to every track on every album and gone to shows, he'd be a fan, which clearly he's not, so your point is pretty... well, pointless.


Oh not true, i have every Radiohead album and im not a "fan" nor would i champion them as the greatest band ever which some people do. You see that kind of nonsense is why i dont listen to reviews, truth is a FAN is someone that will give you a better view than someone that has heard a few songs. AND IT WAS A QUESTION to the poster, look at how it was constructed, its BULLSHIT that a fan cant have a view on a artist, but someone that hates something and always has is given more note.



a fan's review is more worthless to me than a critic's review, because a fan is clearly biased in a positive direction, whereas a critic usually doesn't care one way or the other. shrug
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Reply #8 posted 11/28/09 5:40pm

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errant said:

lastdecember said:



Oh not true, i have every Radiohead album and im not a "fan" nor would i champion them as the greatest band ever which some people do. You see that kind of nonsense is why i dont listen to reviews, truth is a FAN is someone that will give you a better view than someone that has heard a few songs. AND IT WAS A QUESTION to the poster, look at how it was constructed, its BULLSHIT that a fan cant have a view on a artist, but someone that hates something and always has is given more note.



a fan's review is more worthless to me than a critic's review, because a fan is clearly biased in a positive direction, whereas a critic usually doesn't care one way or the other. shrug


Again not true, im a mariah fan but she hasnt had a good album in her career, so wheres the bias, or now im not a fan because i pointed that out? i mean neither is logical. If i want someones view on an a new Ryan Adams cd im not going to ask joe schmo who thinks all his stuff is boring, i want a fans view of the artist they like and then i will have to USE MY MIND (sorry i know its tough for people to do that in this age of 30 second snippets before buying bullshit). And sorry most critics are biased more than a fan, look at Jim Farber of the Daily News, hes the worst, i'd rather ask a stray cat what they think of a cd than this fucker who claims to be a journalist.

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Reply #9 posted 11/28/09 5:43pm

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I dislike any band whose name sounds like a bad cologne.

Bon Jovi - The scent that heaven sent back
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Reply #10 posted 11/28/09 6:21pm

japanrocks

well, first of all membership has dwindled here at the org

next, the people that remained only seem to like Michael Jackson or Janet Jackson

so that leaves you with only R&B music to talk about

check the majority of the threads out and u will see what I mean
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Reply #11 posted 11/28/09 6:36pm

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Jon von jovi ill

Seen his latest pic and he's obviously had plastic surgery eek
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Reply #12 posted 11/28/09 7:24pm

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lastdecember said:

Ace said:

Lyrically, they mimic the trappings of mid-period Springsteen without any of the insight. The scope of their music seems to be limited to hair-metal, sappy AC ballads and mainstream-rock-by-numbers.

I see little to recommend them unless you're a female or gay male who finds Jon Bon Jovi attractive.

Not trying to be insulting; that's honestly how I feel. shrug


Is that a view after listening to every track on every album and seeing shows, or is that a view after hearing hits and seeing girls scream for the band on videos?

That's a view after hearing countless songs on the radio and seeing some live stuff on TV. shrug

Somehow I doubt that listening to their entire catalog and/or seeing them in-person is going to reveal hidden songs of lyrical depth and/or musical ingenuity.
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Reply #13 posted 11/28/09 7:34pm

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ass said:

Even thought their style is same, Jon got big ego, lyrics about the same...but Im still quite a fan ...I wonder why there are so many haters here?

Seriously they outlasted Guns n Roses 5 times (25 years?)

Do let me know why u Hate them (Im curious)
Their latest stuff (Superman tonight, Loves the only rule is amazing !)

These Days (Jon bonjovi with Prince on guitars)

http://www.youtube.com/wa...Ur4gUnbyoQ


cool


Prince on guitar ?
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A train is leaving all day..."
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Reply #14 posted 11/28/09 8:44pm

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<--Attended Sayreville War Memorial High School. Former recepient of Bon Jovi "Dare to Dream" scholarship ($500 lol). neutral
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Reply #15 posted 11/29/09 2:16am

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Now it's time for a classic Bon Jovi moment:


http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related
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Reply #16 posted 11/29/09 11:40am

fingertips

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jbj n rs played an acoustic set in downtown LA one night promoting that al gore movie cupl yrs back .. it was awesome.. im just glad they feel music still. Glad they dont give up for better or worse. I saw them when they came around it wasnt great but it didnt suck.
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Reply #17 posted 11/29/09 12:51pm

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japanrocks said:

well, first of all membership has dwindled here at the org

next, the people that remained only seem to like Michael Jackson or Janet Jackson
so that leaves you with only R&B music to talk about

check the majority of the threads out and u will see what I mean



So the question is, who are you for?
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Reply #18 posted 11/29/09 12:54pm

Wowugotit

I never liked Michael Jackson though I respected him as an artist. I used to like Janet but lost my "like"for her several years ago.
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Reply #19 posted 11/30/09 7:17am

ass

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if u cant tell me if Prince or Rosie did the opening scream for Gett Off, then u are not purple !!!
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Reply #20 posted 12/01/09 12:50pm

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ass said:


Seriously they outlasted Guns n Roses 5 times (25 years?)


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You just lost all credibility with this comment man! You have no idea what you are talking about man. I mean by that rationalizing, Bon Jovi is better than The Beatles...HAHAHHAHAHA!
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Reply #21 posted 12/01/09 2:53pm

rmartin70

I try not to hate anybody. That being said, I strongly dislike Bon Jovi. You can't even compare them to GNR in my opinion.
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Reply #22 posted 12/01/09 3:14pm

mimi2

I don't mind Bon Jovi's older stuff, but they have done nothing good in the last few years...time for them to stop with the new music lol
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