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Reply #30 posted 11/28/09 12:45pm

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Speaking of Brit, her label has announced that she has a new album slated for May 2010. I can't wait!
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Reply #31 posted 11/28/09 12:53pm

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For the new era, I want:

- Increased dancing (skills)
- A Ballad as a third single
- European Promo Trip (Before album release) to promote album + first single (Interviews + Performances)
- Asian Promo Trip - Japan/Taiwan/Hong Kong/ China
- Commercials on TV promoting the album
- Some radio commercials
- Performances at Award Shows (VMA's, AMA's)
- Late Night Interviews (Letterman)
- Oprah/ Diane Sawyer
- Ellen/Larry King
- Performance on GMA or The Today Show
- Another European Promo Trip (Before Third Single) to regenerate album sales, help with third single.

For Circus she only did GMA & the For The Record documentary. Her name really carried sales after that.

But if bitch is gonna be back full-force she's gotta be back full-force.
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Reply #32 posted 11/28/09 12:57pm

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musicjunky318 said:

^
For the new era, I want:

- Increased dancing (skills)
- A Ballad as a third single
- European Promo Trip (Before album release) to promote album + first single (Interviews + Performances)
- Asian Promo Trip - Japan/Taiwan/Hong Kong/ China
- Commercials on TV promoting the album
- Some radio commercials
- Performances at Award Shows (VMA's, AMA's)
- Late Night Interviews (Letterman)
- Oprah/ Diane Sawyer
- Ellen/Larry King
- Performance on GMA or The Today Show
- Another European Promo Trip (Before Third Single) to regenerate album sales, help with third single.

For Circus she only did GMA & the For The Record documentary. Her name really carried sales after that.

But if bitch is gonna be back full-force she's gotta be back full-force.


We can only hope that we get HALF of that. I really feel like Brit totally lost herself the moment she got with Kevin. Well, she was doing good during the Onyx Hotel tour. If she had the energy she had during the Dream Within A Dream tour, she would be a MONSTER!
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Reply #33 posted 11/28/09 1:11pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

musicjunky318 said:

^
For the new era, I want:

- Increased dancing (skills)
- A Ballad as a third single
- European Promo Trip (Before album release) to promote album + first single (Interviews + Performances)
- Asian Promo Trip - Japan/Taiwan/Hong Kong/ China
- Commercials on TV promoting the album
- Some radio commercials
- Performances at Award Shows (VMA's, AMA's)
- Late Night Interviews (Letterman)
- Oprah/ Diane Sawyer
- Ellen/Larry King
- Performance on GMA or The Today Show
- Another European Promo Trip (Before Third Single) to regenerate album sales, help with third single.

For Circus she only did GMA & the For The Record documentary. Her name really carried sales after that.

But if bitch is gonna be back full-force she's gotta be back full-force.


We can only hope that we get HALF of that. I really feel like Brit totally lost herself the moment she got with Kevin. Well, she was doing good during the Onyx Hotel tour. If she had the energy she had during the Dream Within A Dream tour, she would be a MONSTER!


The funny thing is that she's a hit without promotion. She scored 2 #1 singles, one that just debuted at #1 a couple weeks and scanned 1.7 million by doing nothing but a GMA performance the week of the album release and a 2-hour documentary. That's it. Her contemporaries are virtually everywhere and she sells basically the same thing they do. Could you imagine if put a kick in her step and did a blitz of promo like she used to? If she's gonna be lazy again then I'd rather not hear anything until she's ready to give us 100% of Britney. She needs to do interviews. She needs to do performances. She needs to promote her shit like everyone else does. Since In The Zone, she's sold about 4 million just off her name.
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Reply #34 posted 11/28/09 2:09pm

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musicjunky318 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



We can only hope that we get HALF of that. I really feel like Brit totally lost herself the moment she got with Kevin. Well, she was doing good during the Onyx Hotel tour. If she had the energy she had during the Dream Within A Dream tour, she would be a MONSTER!


The funny thing is that she's a hit without promotion. She scored 2 #1 singles, one that just debuted at #1 a couple weeks and scanned 1.7 million by doing nothing but a GMA performance the week of the album release and a 2-hour documentary. That's it. Her contemporaries are virtually everywhere and she sells basically the same thing they do. Could you imagine if put a kick in her step and did a blitz of promo like she used to? If she's gonna be lazy again then I'd rather not hear anything until she's ready to give us 100% of Britney. She needs to do interviews. She needs to do performances. She needs to promote her shit like everyone else does. Since In The Zone, she's sold about 4 million just off her name.


Thats the thing about Brit, she can put out anything and it'll sell based on her name alone. Look at how well Blackout did (which in my opinion is her best album to date. CLASSIC) If she kicks it in over drive and go on a promo frenzy, there's no denying that she'll conquer again. She just has to get that fire back
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Reply #36 posted 11/28/09 10:57pm

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I don't understand why she would be soo reserved to not dance in front of her fans, many of whom would probably pay $200 to see her sit in a chair and read to them...many, not all. Plus, she's stated that dancing is soothing for her. It's not like she's performing in front of haters, critics, or her peers...they're her fans who paid big bucks to see her; so, why be shy?

I'm not saying her fans have low standards; I'm just saying many of them are easily pleased. I'm sorry, but I won't pay for half-assing from anyone whether it's a musical artist, actor, novelist, athelete, chef, or dog walker. If you aren't coming with your 'A' game than stay at home. Nobody should feel obligated or forced to do something they geniunely don't want to do. I just don't think it's fair to the fans if the artist isn't giving them all of themselves in a performance.


Well, even some "fans" like to complain and bitch. Also, the media is always watching, waiting to make something hateful up. She looks like she has a lot of fun up there (I've been three times, yes I'm obsessed lol) but there's no doubt she gets nervous. When she spoke to the crowd at one of my shows, she stumbled on her words. You'd be surprised how many big time celebrities are shy as hell. And none of them have gone crazy in front of the world. I was looking at a bunch of timeline type pictures the other day and you can see the usual confidence in 07, then after her dad steps in you see this HUGE change in her whole demeanor. Very demure, almost emotionless.

For me, it was a ten year hope that she might tour and I'd basically given up on her touring here, then she did four freakin' shows in my city. She's not bringing her A game but it's not exactly a Z game either. She's still right into it, still cute as hell, still has a wonderful spectacle behind her, still has amazing pop songs - her dancing and lack of live singing are really the only "flaws".

I've seen footage of her rehearsals and I've seen the concert performances on Youtube and I just don't see how someone who has been doing it for 10+ years can't transition from dance studio to stage no matter what unfortunate life circumstances have arose. Step up and do it; or, step back and sit down; but don't be fake about it and go through the motions in a half-assing manner is how I feel about any task one takes up. I just think that she's gotten comfortable so she does less now because her fanbase doesn't expect more from her.


I agree but you just have to remember how low she sunk. She lost her kids and didn't see them for two months straight, she was surrounded by people aiding her sickness instead of helping her, she got strapped down and taken to the hospital and put on suicide watch, she was drugged unknowingly. She said and did all sorts of odd things because her illness was uncontrolled. That's a LOT of shame and embarrassment to carry. It took Michael YEARS to come back, and we all know what happened there. I'm just glad at least two other celebrity babies out there aren't without a parent.

I've seen her sing songs live on several occasions but she does lip-sync the majority of the time which is what she's been doing since her career started so the fact that there were people in Australia who wanted their money back because of this was something that I found surprising, dumb, and comical.


The articles about Australians were completely fake. Every Aussie knows she lip syncs so to want money back for something you already know is ridiculous. It was just the vile media here attempting to cause controversy and 'teach her a lesson' by constantly making up stories of how bad the tour was doing (and as you can see by this very thread, IT AIN'T TRUE! lol)

She's not the first or last artist to lip-sync but at one point in her career she had at least a more valid reason for doing it because she actually was doing some hardcore choreography...now, not so much; so, I really don't get the lip-syncing at this point unless: 1) her voice is totally shot due to her past smoking habit; or, 2) she's just taking the easy way out and being a bit lazy. If you aren't doing heavy choreography, than there really is no good reason at all for lip-syncing the majority of the show but that's just my opinion.


If you look at the few performances of You Oughta Know that she did live a few months back, you'd see that she's not moving at all, just walking a bit with no sets or anything on the stage. The other songs have her constantly moving around the in the round stage, doing all sorts of things as well as dancing.

A comedian here got it right: "So what if she lip syncs? If she sung live, they'd say she sounded bad. Leave her alone."

When I posted the live performances here, most of the comments were negative.

Plus, she couldn't compete with the more powerhouse female artist because despite how good her voice sounds on this song, it's really nothing in comparison to Jennifer Hudson, Christina, or Leona.


Maybe she doesn't want to sound like that? I find that style almost boring to listen to after a while, whereas I never get sick of a whole Britney album, because she changes her voice up so much, it's never just BELTBELTBELTlittlerunsfortwosecondsBELTBELTBELT! The only Mariah album I can listen to is Mimi because she really balanced out the belting with the subtle normal signing and it worked so well. Christina is a hopeless case for me, I simply cannot stand her voice and those little "ha"s she does drive me up the wall. J.Hud is just plain and even her lungs couldn't handle Michael's "I Will Be There". Leona is okay but she has truly snoozeworthy songs.

Beyonce's the only "powerhouse" I like because she does it well AND has fun songs and video to boot. Gimme Halo any day over Christina's Candyman or Beautiful.

I don't like how people say she couldn't "compete" with those singers, as if she's a lesser singer because she doesn't belt.

Did anyone ever consider that her songs are so popular BECAUSE OF her unique interpretations of them?

If you just stay in one musical genre, it's hard for me to see the greatness because I don't see any growth or challenge there. Britney will always be just a pop artist, nothing more, which is great if that's all she strives to be and that's all her fans want from her. She's getting paid so that's all that matters in the end I guess.


If you like what you've got, why change it?

Blackout was the first album that was really hers and while its still very sexual, the consistency and lack of vocal manipulation deserves a whole lot more credit than it will ever get (especially considering what she was going through @ the time). There's a reason The Times named it #5 pop album of all time recently.

There was also that down time in 2004-2006 where she created a lot of sweet songs, see what you think:

Written entirely by her, two weeks before she found out she was pregnant.


Just Brit and a piano, she uses her lower register, too.



This was meant for an album she made totally by herself in 2004 called Original Doll but her record label pulled the plug after she aired this song on radio in demo form without telling them. This song was half released and the lyrics were changed.

One of the many ballads left off Blackout


Made when she cut basically everyone out of her life


A song she wrote for her sister


Stickin' it to Kevin lol (even lower register again)

[Edited 11/28/09 23:02pm]
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Reply #37 posted 11/29/09 3:44am

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purplesweat said:

estelle81 said:

I don't understand why she would be soo reserved to not dance in front of her fans, many of whom would probably pay $200 to see her sit in a chair and read to them...many, not all. Plus, she's stated that dancing is soothing for her. It's not like she's performing in front of haters, critics, or her peers...they're her fans who paid big bucks to see her; so, why be shy?

I'm not saying her fans have low standards; I'm just saying many of them are easily pleased. I'm sorry, but I won't pay for half-assing from anyone whether it's a musical artist, actor, novelist, athelete, chef, or dog walker. If you aren't coming with your 'A' game than stay at home. Nobody should feel obligated or forced to do something they geniunely don't want to do. I just don't think it's fair to the fans if the artist isn't giving them all of themselves in a performance.


Well, even some "fans" like to complain and bitch. Also, the media is always watching, waiting to make something hateful up. She looks like she has a lot of fun up there (I've been three times, yes I'm obsessed lol) but there's no doubt she gets nervous. When she spoke to the crowd at one of my shows, she stumbled on her words. You'd be surprised how many big time celebrities are shy as hell. And none of them have gone crazy in front of the world. I was looking at a bunch of timeline type pictures the other day and you can see the usual confidence in 07, then after her dad steps in you see this HUGE change in her whole demeanor. Very demure, almost emotionless.

For me, it was a ten year hope that she might tour and I'd basically given up on her touring here, then she did four freakin' shows in my city. She's not bringing her A game but it's not exactly a Z game either. She's still right into it, still cute as hell, still has a wonderful spectacle behind her, still has amazing pop songs - her dancing and lack of live singing are really the only "flaws".



Maybe she doesn't want to sound like that? I find that style almost boring to listen to after a while, whereas I never get sick of a whole Britney album, because she changes her voice up so much, it's never just BELTBELTBELTlittlerunsfortwosecondsBELTBELTBELT! The only Mariah album I can listen to is Mimi because she really balanced out the belting with the subtle normal signing and it worked so well. Christina is a hopeless case for me, I simply cannot stand her voice and those little "ha"s she does drive me up the wall. J.Hud is just plain and even her lungs couldn't handle Michael's "I Will Be There". Leona is okay but she has truly snoozeworthy songs.

Beyonce's the only "powerhouse" I like because she does it well AND has fun songs and video to boot. Gimme Halo any day over Christina's Candyman or Beautiful.

I don't like how people say she couldn't "compete" with those singers, as if she's a lesser singer because she doesn't belt.

Did anyone ever consider that her songs are so popular BECAUSE OF her unique interpretations of them?

If you just stay in one musical genre, it's hard for me to see the greatness because I don't see any growth or challenge there. Britney will always be just a pop artist, nothing more, which is great if that's all she strives to be and that's all her fans want from her. She's getting paid so that's all that matters in the end I guess.


If you like what you've got, why change it?

Blackout was the first album that was really hers and while its still very sexual, the consistency and lack of vocal manipulation deserves a whole lot more credit than it will ever get (especially considering what she was going through @ the time). There's a reason The Times named it #5 pop album of all time recently.

There was also that down time in 2004-2006 where she created a lot of sweet songs, see what you think:

Written entirely by her, two weeks before she found out she was pregnant.


Just Brit and a piano, she uses her lower register, too.



This was meant for an album she made totally by herself in 2004 called Original Doll but her record label pulled the plug after she aired this song on radio in demo form without telling them. This song was half released and the lyrics were changed.

One of the many ballads left off Blackout


Made when she cut basically everyone out of her life


A song she wrote for her sister


Stickin' it to Kevin lol (even lower register again)

[Edited 11/28/09 23:02pm]



some of them sound really cool
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Reply #38 posted 11/29/09 4:33am

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some of them sound really cool


Which ones did you like? biggrin
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Reply #39 posted 11/30/09 5:43pm

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purplesweat said:

estelle81 said:

I don't understand why she would be soo reserved to not dance in front of her fans, many of whom would probably pay $200 to see her sit in a chair and read to them...many, not all. Plus, she's stated that dancing is soothing for her. It's not like she's performing in front of haters, critics, or her peers...they're her fans who paid big bucks to see her; so, why be shy?

I'm not saying her fans have low standards; I'm just saying many of them are easily pleased. I'm sorry, but I won't pay for half-assing from anyone whether it's a musical artist, actor, novelist, athelete, chef, or dog walker. If you aren't coming with your 'A' game than stay at home. Nobody should feel obligated or forced to do something they geniunely don't want to do. I just don't think it's fair to the fans if the artist isn't giving them all of themselves in a performance.


Well, even some "fans" like to complain and bitch. Also, the media is always watching, waiting to make something hateful up. She looks like she has a lot of fun up there (I've been three times, yes I'm obsessed lol) but there's no doubt she gets nervous. When she spoke to the crowd at one of my shows, she stumbled on her words. You'd be surprised how many big time celebrities are shy as hell. And none of them have gone crazy in front of the world. I was looking at a bunch of timeline type pictures the other day and you can see the usual confidence in 07, then after her dad steps in you see this HUGE change in her whole demeanor. Very demure, almost emotionless.

For me, it was a ten year hope that she might tour and I'd basically given up on her touring here, then she did four freakin' shows in my city. She's not bringing her A game but it's not exactly a Z game either. She's still right into it, still cute as hell, still has a wonderful spectacle behind her, still has amazing pop songs - her dancing and lack of live singing are really the only "flaws".



Maybe she doesn't want to sound like that? I find that style almost boring to listen to after a while, whereas I never get sick of a whole Britney album, because she changes her voice up so much, it's never just BELTBELTBELTlittlerunsfortwosecondsBELTBELTBELT! The only Mariah album I can listen to is Mimi because she really balanced out the belting with the subtle normal signing and it worked so well. Christina is a hopeless case for me, I simply cannot stand her voice and those little "ha"s she does drive me up the wall. J.Hud is just plain and even her lungs couldn't handle Michael's "I Will Be There". Leona is okay but she has truly snoozeworthy songs.

Beyonce's the only "powerhouse" I like because she does it well AND has fun songs and video to boot. Gimme Halo any day over Christina's Candyman or Beautiful.

I don't like how people say she couldn't "compete" with those singers, as if she's a lesser singer because she doesn't belt.

Did anyone ever consider that her songs are so popular BECAUSE OF her unique interpretations of them?

If you just stay in one musical genre, it's hard for me to see the greatness because I don't see any growth or challenge there. Britney will always be just a pop artist, nothing more, which is great if that's all she strives to be and that's all her fans want from her. She's getting paid so that's all that matters in the end I guess.


If you like what you've got, why change it?

Blackout was the first album that was really hers and while its still very sexual, the consistency and lack of vocal manipulation deserves a whole lot more credit than it will ever get (especially considering what she was going through @ the time). There's a reason The Times named it #5 pop album of all time recently.

There was also that down time in 2004-2006 where she created a lot of sweet songs, see what you think:

Written entirely by her, two weeks before she found out she was pregnant.


Just Brit and a piano, she uses her lower register, too.



This was meant for an album she made totally by herself in 2004 called Original Doll but her record label pulled the plug after she aired this song on radio in demo form without telling them. This song was half released and the lyrics were changed.

One of the many ballads left off Blackout


Made when she cut basically everyone out of her life


A song she wrote for her sister


Stickin' it to Kevin lol (even lower register again)

[Edited 11/28/09 23:02pm]


I'm sorry, but I absolutely hate that 'Baby Boy' song...hated the first time it leaked to the radio. I think she sounds terrible on it...like she's straining her voice to get that low register. It's painful for me to listen to.
Honestly, I've always enjoyed her song 'Someday' and was hoping that she continued on this path, but that sound coming from her for a whole album wasn't going to sell records plain and simple which is why she has more upbeat (often time overly-produced) songs on her albums than actual ballads. Regardless of how I feel about an artist, I will listen to their album if I can find them at the library...it's totally free so why not. I'm not big on Lady Gaga, but I even rented her album from the library recently to see what the big deal was and I didn't hate it but I didn't love it either...still don't see what the big deal is to be completely honest with you, but that's just me. I recently rented her 'Circus' album from the library and thought it was a fun pop album that's got some fantastic club beats on it.

Her albums aren't awful because she gets top-notch producers and songwriters so it's never been the music that's been the problem really. I've said in several posts that a good song is a good song no matter who sings it...unless that person totally rapes, strangles, bludgeons, and hacks the song to death with a butcher's knife, which I've seen happen on 'American Idol' and at Karaoke bars on several occasions. Majority of Britney's songs would be good pop songs even if she didn't sing them. Sure, she's made her songs her own but even Whitney was able to take Dolly Parton's 'I Will Always Love You' and have people saying she owned the song despite the success Dolly had had with it years earlier.

I don't consider her to be inferior to the powerhouse divas because she can't 'belt out' a song like they can. I consider her mediocre to them because I just can't see her transitioning past just being a pop artist. Even Miley Cyrus (as annoying as her voice is) has managed to be on the Country charts as well as the pop charts. For me, Britney's voice doesn't fit anywhere but in pop music. She doesn't sound R&B, country, rock, blue, jazz, heavy metal, adult contemporary, or alternative....she just carries a tune which is all a pop artist has to do it seems. Even Madonna's first song ('Everybody') was initially sent to R&B stations and labeled R&B. Then, they actually saw her and realized she wasn't black; but she initially set her sights to the R&B crowd. Britney's just a pop artist and that's where she'll probably stay unless she broadens her horizons which is still totally possible because she's still young. I'd like to see her step outside of her comfort zone and try something different. It would be interesting. All just my twocents
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purplesweat said:

missmad said:




some of them sound really cool


Which ones did you like? biggrin


I love Blackout album more than any of her other albums. Blackout has so many amazing outtake tracks, from State of Grace, to Sugarfall, to Outta This World
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