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Printablemidiscover said: lastdecember said: Again never said she was innovative, said she was doing things that werent being done in that genre by the females around her, which is true, look at the likes of Rihanna and Ciara who dont write all sound the same, but again, its like talking to a brick wall on this forum as u can see by what gets replies like Adam Lambert and Robin Thicke, wow great fucking artists there, you'd think on a Prince forum something would rub off. R kelly is a waste, he operated in a genre that sold its soul, and ask anyone on this forum who knows soul music, and im not talking Beyonce, she is less soul than anyone alive. RB as a genre died in that decade and has yet to find itself again, just like Rock died too. Are you serious? R. Kelly souless? AHAAA! Seeing your response in the thread about him having a Thanksgiving dinner for troops. I'm convinced you already set your mind on how you felt about him and his music before actually listening to his albums So next track! Oh btw, Amerie is doing nothing different from those around her. She's a waste of space in the industry. Not marketable and a horrible artist. But she'll get dropped from her label eventually. While R. Kelly has been industry for 20 years and each one of his albums have gone platinium or multi-platinium. 
[Edited 11/25/09 17:20pm] So sales determine if you are an artist, good philosphy to live by, so Vanilla Ice and Eminem are the best rappers ever, ok, let me let LL and Rakim know that they arent artists. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: midiscover said: Are you serious? R. Kelly souless? AHAAA! Seeing your response in the thread about him having a Thanksgiving dinner for troops. I'm convinced you already set your mind on how you felt about him and his music before actually listening to his albums So next track! Oh btw, Amerie is doing nothing different from those around her. She's a waste of space in the industry. Not marketable and a horrible artist. But she'll get dropped from her label eventually. While R. Kelly has been industry for 20 years and each one of his albums have gone platinium or multi-platinium.
[Edited 11/25/09 17:20pm] So sales determine if you are an artist, good philosphy to live by, so Vanilla Ice and Eminem are the best rappers ever, ok, let me let LL and Rakim know that they arent artists. Did that say that? Oh! you must be one of those people that gripe on and on about popular artists and choose to drool over these "underground" artists 
All I'm saying is don't try to act like R. Kelly didn't contribute shit to music and is just a gimmick. | |
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midiscover said: lastdecember said: So sales determine if you are an artist, good philosphy to live by, so Vanilla Ice and Eminem are the best rappers ever, ok, let me let LL and Rakim know that they arent artists. Did that say that? Oh! you must be one of those people that gripe on and on about popular artists and choose to drool over these "underground" artists
All I'm saying is don't try to act like R. Kelly didn't contribute shit to music and is just a gimmick. Actually no, but i do know that people who say John Mayer is better than Ryan Adams, have no clue. Just because John has the looks he gets played, that is what you are saying basically, John shouldnt even be on the same planet as Ryan. So being marketable is bullshit, im not an accountant and these peeps aint paying me with the money they make so i could care less what they sell and who goes platnum, that is 90's Soundscam mentality. And you're wrong that the artists i like dont sell or i frown on them, Lets see Norah Jones, second biggest selling female artist since 2000 worldwide, Bon Jovi 163million albums sold worldwide, biggest tour of 2008, they're underground. I dont care what you sell, if you are on the ground under the fucking ground who cares, play an instrument, dont follow the crowd just to be "down and sell", write your music, arrange your vocals, and be in charge of your own career not letting a label own you all your life. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: midiscover said: Did that say that? Oh! you must be one of those people that gripe on and on about popular artists and choose to drool over these "underground" artists
All I'm saying is don't try to act like R. Kelly didn't contribute shit to music and is just a gimmick. Actually no, but i do know that people who say John Mayer is better than Ryan Adams, have no clue. Just because John has the looks he gets played, that is what you are saying basically, John shouldnt even be on the same planet as Ryan. So being marketable is bullshit, im not an accountant and these peeps aint paying me with the money they make so i could care less what they sell and who goes platnum, that is 90's Soundscam mentality. And you're wrong that the artists i like dont sell or i frown on them, Lets see Norah Jones, second biggest selling female artist since 2000 worldwide, Bon Jovi 163million albums sold worldwide, biggest tour of 2008, they're underground. I dont care what you sell, if you are on the ground under the fucking ground who cares, play an instrument, dont follow the crowd just to be "down and sell", write your music, arrange your vocals, and be in charge of your own career not letting a label own you all your life. 
Yea, yea, yea R. Kelly does all that. So running in here talking all that non-sense just made you look a fool. Especially since you consider this image Amerie is putting forth is geniune and "unique". | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: Harlepolis said: HAHAHAAA yessIdid! Howudoin!?! | |
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midiscover said: lastdecember said: Actually no, but i do know that people who say John Mayer is better than Ryan Adams, have no clue. Just because John has the looks he gets played, that is what you are saying basically, John shouldnt even be on the same planet as Ryan. So being marketable is bullshit, im not an accountant and these peeps aint paying me with the money they make so i could care less what they sell and who goes platnum, that is 90's Soundscam mentality. And you're wrong that the artists i like dont sell or i frown on them, Lets see Norah Jones, second biggest selling female artist since 2000 worldwide, Bon Jovi 163million albums sold worldwide, biggest tour of 2008, they're underground. I dont care what you sell, if you are on the ground under the fucking ground who cares, play an instrument, dont follow the crowd just to be "down and sell", write your music, arrange your vocals, and be in charge of your own career not letting a label own you all your life.
Yea, yea, yea R. Kelly does all that. So running in here talking all that non-sense just made you look a fool. Especially since you consider this image Amerie is putting forth is geniune and "unique". Whatever dude, sorry never liked him that simple, had to listen to all of his records, catchy songs, nothing stuck, it was all the same images, "hey baby lets have sex, great thought but lets try something new, and im not talking throwing a "fake gospel" album together, but whatever, he's a fake and he called out, listen to the new LL on the track "Old school New School" R is one of the ones hes talking about being fakes, along with Jay Z (king of the fakes), the man who preaches on his new track about being "brooklyn" he's a total bitch, ridin into a show in his limo, just in time to perform, gets his applause, back in the limo with his security, fake ass imagery, but hey thats what sells, and thats what is important, market fake shit. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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Hey sex sells. And yes Jay-z is nothing but a bitch if you ask me. Sure he HAD some good songs but he's a fake, fuck him. | |
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lastdecember said: midiscover said:
Yea, yea, yea R. Kelly does all that. So running in here talking all that non-sense just made you look a fool. Especially since you consider this image Amerie is putting forth is geniune and "unique". Whatever dude, sorry never liked him that simple (Why you in here?) , had to listen to all of his records, catchy songs, nothing stuck, it was all the same images (At least his image isn't constructed for marketing like somebody) , "hey baby lets have sex, great thought but lets try something new (His most successful singles aren't about sex so try again) , and im not talking throwing a "fake gospel" album together (Everything is fake to you. Poor you) , but whatever, he's a fake and he called out (Amerie is fake and I'm calling her out. Girl needs to get a job with that Georgetown degree of hers LMFAO!) , listen to the new LL (What's an LL? What is this you speak of?) on the track "Old school New School" R is one of the ones hes talking about being fakes, Educate yourself!  [Edited 11/25/09 18:12pm] | |
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this album is garbage. sad thing is this guy actually has the ability to write and sing real songs...songs that are actually good. this is gimmicky, tuneless TRIPE. 'echo' is pretty hilarious tho with all the yodeling. | |
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midiscover said: lastdecember said: Actually no, but i do know that people who say John Mayer is better than Ryan Adams, have no clue. Just because John has the looks he gets played, that is what you are saying basically, John shouldnt even be on the same planet as Ryan. So being marketable is bullshit, im not an accountant and these peeps aint paying me with the money they make so i could care less what they sell and who goes platnum, that is 90's Soundscam mentality. And you're wrong that the artists i like dont sell or i frown on them, Lets see Norah Jones, second biggest selling female artist since 2000 worldwide, Bon Jovi 163million albums sold worldwide, biggest tour of 2008, they're underground. I dont care what you sell, if you are on the ground under the fucking ground who cares, play an instrument, dont follow the crowd just to be "down and sell", write your music, arrange your vocals, and be in charge of your own career not letting a label own you all your life.
Yea, yea, yea R. Kelly does all that. So running in here talking all that non-sense just made you look a fool. Especially since you consider this image Amerie is putting forth is geniune and "unique". OMG! That gif has me over here CRYIN! rotf! | |
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midiscover said: lastdecember said: Whatever dude, sorry never liked him that simple (Why you in here?) , had to listen to all of his records, catchy songs, nothing stuck, it was all the same images (At least his image isn't constructed for marketing like somebody) , "hey baby lets have sex, great thought but lets try something new (His most successful singles aren't about sex so try again) , and im not talking throwing a "fake gospel" album together (Everything is fake to you. Poor you) , but whatever, he's a fake and he called out (Amerie is fake and I'm calling her out. Girl needs to get a job with that Georgetown degree of hers LMFAO!) , listen to the new LL (What's an LL? What is this you speak of?) on the track "Old school New School" R is one of the ones hes talking about being fakes, Educate yourself!
[Edited 11/25/09 18:12pm] Read that a long time ago, heard the quotes comparing him to Sam Cooke,Prince etc...and the fact that R kelly is even in the same sentence with Marvin Gaye is sad, plain and simple cut it anyway you want. He is relevant for his decade and time, but he did nothing like the ones he is compared to, comparisons are stupid plain and simple, none of these artists were on the same playing fields. Sam Cooke existed in a time when Blacks couldnt even use the same bathroom as white people, so do not equate the two. R pulled his genre down in the long run not up. This is the same kinda stuff i hear with people saying that Guns N Roses are more relevant in rock music, nonsense, Guns were relevant for the time they were in, but couldnt do anything other bands did. The same goes for R, he aint Sam Cooke he sure is HELL aint PRince, Prince could get across SEX without saying it, thats the major difference, with R and many in the 90's it was all imagery, Sex is for the mind not the eyes. Oh and the Prince quote of "being a soul man" is taken out of context, in wasnt in a positive point Prince was discussing [Edited 11/25/09 18:30pm] "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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So I listened to the album in it's entirety and I must say I'm not all that thrilled. It seems like R. is trying to appeal to this generation of listeners. It's definitely different from the crap on the radio but it's not the R. Kelly I grew up listening to. But at the same time I can't blame him. It's hard keeping up with today's listeners but he does it well and there's no doubt in mind this will do very well (sales). I rate it 3.5 stars out of 5. | |
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I am sure it's garbage like the rest of his music. | |
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lastdecember said: midiscover said: Educate yourself!
[Edited 11/25/09 18:12pm] Read that a long time ago, heard the quotes comparing him to Sam Cooke,Prince etc...and the fact that R kelly is even in the same sentence with Marvin Gaye is sad, plain and simple cut it anyway you want. He is relevant for his decade and time, but he did nothing like the ones he is compared to, comparisons are stupid plain and simple, none of these artists were on the same playing fields. Sam Cooke existed in a time when Blacks couldnt even use the same bathroom as white people, so do not equate the two. R pulled his genre down in the long run not up. This is the same kinda stuff i hear with people saying that Guns N Roses are more relevant in rock music, nonsense, Guns were relevant for the time they were in, but couldnt do anything other bands did. The same goes for R, he aint Sam Cooke he sure is HELL aint PRince, Prince could get across SEX without saying it, thats the major difference, with R and many in the 90's it was all imagery, Sex is for the mind not the eyes. How did R. pull his genre down? He has made plenty of songs of inspiration. Hell! he's the one people look for the corny tributes and graduation songs. and R. has sad time and time again that it's not like he's a nympho. He makes music about sex and love because it appeals to the masses. It's his forte!! Just like Marvin Gaye and you can clearly see the similarities. And R. has songs about sex where he doesn't mention sex too. Ex- Just admit it you want to go in a time machine to the 70's or some shit but boo hoo! music is evolving and times are changing. | |
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midiscover said: lastdecember said: Read that a long time ago, heard the quotes comparing him to Sam Cooke,Prince etc...and the fact that R kelly is even in the same sentence with Marvin Gaye is sad, plain and simple cut it anyway you want. He is relevant for his decade and time, but he did nothing like the ones he is compared to, comparisons are stupid plain and simple, none of these artists were on the same playing fields. Sam Cooke existed in a time when Blacks couldnt even use the same bathroom as white people, so do not equate the two. R pulled his genre down in the long run not up. This is the same kinda stuff i hear with people saying that Guns N Roses are more relevant in rock music, nonsense, Guns were relevant for the time they were in, but couldnt do anything other bands did. The same goes for R, he aint Sam Cooke he sure is HELL aint PRince, Prince could get across SEX without saying it, thats the major difference, with R and many in the 90's it was all imagery, Sex is for the mind not the eyes. How did R. pull his genre down? He has made plenty of songs of inspiration. Hell! he's the one people look for the corny tributes and graduation songs. and R. has sad time and time again that it's not like he's a nympho. He makes music about sex and love because it appeals to the masses. It's his forte!! Just like Marvin Gaye and you can clearly see the similarities. And R. has songs about sex where he doesn't mention sex too. Ex- Just admit it you want to go in a time machine to the 70's or some shit but boo hoo! music is evolving and times are changing. And that's what's the problem with music then and now, sex sells!!!!! Society ain't gonna give a fuck about you unless sex is involved. I like R Kelly but man he knew people would buy his music because it involves sex. | |
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NastradumasKid said: midiscover said: How did R. pull his genre down? He has made plenty of songs of inspiration. Hell! he's the one people look for the corny tributes and graduation songs. and R. has sad time and time again that it's not like he's a nympho. He makes music about sex and love because it appeals to the masses. It's his forte!! Just like Marvin Gaye and you can clearly see the similarities. And R. has songs about sex where he doesn't mention sex too. Ex- Just admit it you want to go in a time machine to the 70's or some shit but boo hoo! music is evolving and times are changing. And that's what's the problem with music then and now, sex sells!!!!! Society ain't gonna give a fuck about you unless sex is involved. I like R Kelly but man he knew people would buy his music because it involves sex. 
He's smart when it comes to his music. I think we all know what he's capable of but he chooses to making the music he does so it will sell and appeal to many listeners. And plus it has always been this way for years and years. Idk why people are acting like artists are just now starting to sing about sex. Even the people that hate him have listened to a song that he either wrote or produced. | |
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midiscover said: NastradumasKid said: And that's what's the problem with music then and now, sex sells!!!!! Society ain't gonna give a fuck about you unless sex is involved. I like R Kelly but man he knew people would buy his music because it involves sex.
He's smart when it comes to his music. I think we all know what he's capable of but he chooses to making the music he does so it will sell and appeal to many listeners. And plus it has always been this way for years and years. Idk why people are acting like artists are just now starting to sing about sex. Even the people that hate him have listened to a song that he either wrote or produced. Society itself is run by sex or anything sexual in nature in general. I also can not understand why people are so flabbergasted by this, its nothing new. Everyone from The isley Brothers to Marvin Gaye, to R Kelly and many others knew how the music business works. Hell, why do you think people like Lil Wayne or whatever have more record sells than someone like Lupe or Nas, that barely to never involve sexual innuendos in their music? Society in general has a fucked up mentality, lets face it.  | |
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Vendetta1 said: I am sure it's garbage like the rest of his music.
You sound like a GOT DAMN fool | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: Vendetta1 said: I am sure it's garbage like the rest of his music.
You sound like a GOT DAMN fool | |
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Vendetta1 said: ViintageJunkiie said: You sound like a GOT DAMN fool Actually, the ones in HERE defending that his music IS complete shit are the fools boo! | |
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midiscover said: Vendetta1 said: His music is garbage to me. You thinking I am a fool changes nothing. The ones sounding like goddamned fools are the ones defending that bullshit.
Actually, the ones in HERE defending that his music IS complete shit are the fools boo!
R Kelly is one of the reasons modern R&B is completely fucked up AND he is a shit human being on top of it. Popular does not equal good. And if any of you are epople who slam other people's choice of favorite musical artists, you really can get the fuck outta here with the attempt to come at me. | |
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midiscover said: Vendetta1 said: His music is garbage to me. You thinking I am a fool changes nothing. The ones sounding like goddamned fools are the ones defending that bullshit.
Actually, the ones in HERE defending that his music IS complete shit are the fools boo! | |
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Vendetta1 said: midiscover said: Actually, the ones in HERE defending that his music IS complete shit are the fools boo!
R Kelly is one of the reasons modern R&B is completely fucked up AND he is a shit human being on top of it. Popular does not equal good. And if any of you are epople who slam other people's choice of favorite musical artists, you really can get the fuck outta here with the attempt to come at me. Then why are you in here? I mean the title says "R. Kelly's new cd "untitled" on amazon.com" If he's such a shit human being (which you don't know him personally to say so) and his music is supposedly - crap Then why are you in this thread? | |
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midiscover said: Vendetta1 said: Why? Because some of you think it's not?
R Kelly is one of the reasons modern R&B is completely fucked up AND he is a shit human being on top of it. Popular does not equal good. And if any of you are epople who slam other people's choice of favorite musical artists, you really can get the fuck outta here with the attempt to come at me. Then why are you in here? I mean the title says "R. Kelly's new cd "untitled" on amazon.com" If he's such a shit human being (which you don't know him personally to say so) and his music is supposedly - crap Then why are you in this thread? I know he married a 15 year old girl and has an affinity for young girls and that's all I need to know about him as a person. | |
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Vendetta1 said: ViintageJunkiie said: You sound like a GOT DAMN fool You're out your mind if you think all of R Kelly's music is garbage. As many hits and amazing songs that he have. He writes for ALL your favorite singers. But it's your opinion. | |
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Vendetta1 said: midiscover said: Then why are you in here? I mean the title says "R. Kelly's new cd "untitled" on amazon.com" If he's such a shit human being (which you don't know him personally to say so) and his music is supposedly - crap Then why are you in this thread? I know he married a 15 year old girl and has an affinity for young girls and that's all I need to know about him as a person. Good for you! You're fascinated by R. Kelly 
But that's not proof you know him.....Elvis did the same and I don't see people bitching. | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: Vendetta1 said: His music is garbage to me. You thinking I am a fool changes nothing. The ones sounding like goddamned fools are the ones defending that bullshit.
You're out your mind if you think all of R Kelly's music is garbage. As many hits and amazing songs that he have. He writes for ALL your favorite singers. But it's your opinion. His stuff is amazing to YOU and his other fans. To some of us, he is a no-singing, garbage writing, kiddie lover. | |
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midiscover said: Vendetta1 said: I'm here because I can be.
I know he married a 15 year old girl and has an affinity for young girls and that's all I need to know about him as a person. Good for you! You're fascinated by R. Kelly
But that's not proof you know him.....Elvis did the same and I don't see people bitching. I don't want to know or ever meet him but you seem to ignore the fact that he did these really fucked up things and admitted he has a problem liking young girls. And I guess if Elvis liked little girls, it makes it okay. | |
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Y'all can have y'all thread back. How rude of me to disrespect tha Kang.  | |
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