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What do the Jacksons do for a living?

Both before and after michaels death? I heard somewhere that they just lived off of MJ's money and when he cut someone out of the family from receiving it they & their children had to go work at wal mart or something.
Are all the Jacksons(bar Janet) & their offspring living off MJ's royalties?
Did Prince ever deny he had sex with his sister? I believe not. So there U have it..
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Reply #1 posted 11/23/09 9:44pm

BklynBabe

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before your thread gets locked up....

yeah, basically. confused
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Reply #2 posted 11/23/09 9:51pm

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Rebbie did Vegas for awhile
Jackie does indie stuff
Tito tours constantly
Jermaine does....Jermaine
same for LaToya
Marlon does real estate
Randy...does Randy
and Janet....we all know

plus you gotta remember the brothers are still getting royalties from the Jacksons back catalog cool
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Reply #3 posted 11/23/09 9:55pm

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I just wanna give a shout to my cousin Keke Davis Johnson before this gets locked
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Reply #4 posted 11/23/09 9:58pm

lowkey

Sandino said:

Both before and after michaels death? I heard somewhere that they just lived off of MJ's money and when he cut someone out of the family from receiving it they & their children had to go work at wal mart or something.
Are all the Jacksons(bar Janet) & their offspring living off MJ's royalties?


how do you know what these people have and how they earn a living? i wonder how michael could support all his siblings and their kids while he was deep up the ass indebt, his concert promoter was paying his rent and paying his dealer...doctor, he was always going to some random ass country living off a prince or somebody with money, janet had to pay his neverneverland staff,mama katty almost lost hayvenhurst because he mortgaged it so many times, yall need to stop
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Reply #5 posted 11/23/09 10:07pm

bboy87

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lowkey said:

Sandino said:

Both before and after michaels death? I heard somewhere that they just lived off of MJ's money and when he cut someone out of the family from receiving it they & their children had to go work at wal mart or something.
Are all the Jacksons(bar Janet) & their offspring living off MJ's royalties?


how do you know what these people have and how they earn a living? i wonder how michael could support all his siblings and their kids while he was deep up the ass indebt, his concert promoter was paying his rent and paying his dealer...doctor, he was always going to some random ass country living off a prince or somebody with money, janet had to pay his neverneverland staff,mama katty almost lost hayvenhurst because he mortgaged it so many times, yall need to stop

Michael was in debt for not only his spending, but for paying other people's debt

And remember Michael was still getting paid for his catalog

And when did Janet have to pay his staff? If I remember correctly, the staff hadn't gotten paid and Randy was dealing the finances at the time
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Reply #6 posted 11/23/09 10:19pm

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bboy87 said:

Rebbie did Vegas for awhile
Jackie does indie stuff
Tito tours constantly
Jermaine does....Jermaine
same for LaToya
Marlon does real estate
Randy...does Randy
and Janet....we all know

plus you gotta remember the brothers are still getting royalties from the Jacksons back catalog cool


These days, Randy function more like a solider within the family. He was the one that saved LaToya from her abusive husband and well as the once that hired bodyguards for Michael before & during the trial.

Randy was also the original webmaster of Michael's first website.
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Reply #7 posted 11/23/09 10:21pm

bboy87

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TonyVanDam said:

bboy87 said:

Rebbie did Vegas for awhile
Jackie does indie stuff
Tito tours constantly
Jermaine does....Jermaine
same for LaToya
Marlon does real estate
Randy...does Randy
and Janet....we all know

plus you gotta remember the brothers are still getting royalties from the Jacksons back catalog cool


These days, Randy function more like a solider within the family. He was the one that saved LaToya from her abusive husband and well as the once that hired bodyguards for Michael before & during the trial.

Randy was also the original webmaster of Michael's first website.

nod

There was alot of drama about MJJSource. Alot of stuff was a mess at the time
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^Who makes the most money? Marlon?
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Reply #9 posted 11/23/09 11:13pm

bboy87

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musicjunky318 said:

^Who makes the most money? Marlon?

other than Janet and Michael's estate?

Probably Marlon
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Reply #10 posted 11/23/09 11:26pm

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Randy was Mike's manager for a while, right?
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purplesweat said:

Randy was Mike's manager for a while, right?

Yep, and apparently tried to get Michael to sign away the Sony/ATV catalog
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Reply #12 posted 11/24/09 12:12am

mookie

bboy87 said:


Yep, and apparently tried to get Michael to sign away the Sony/ATV catalog



What was in it for him to do that?
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Reply #13 posted 11/24/09 12:25am

bboy87

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mookie said:

bboy87 said:


Yep, and apparently tried to get Michael to sign away the Sony/ATV catalog



What was in it for him to do that?

Here's an article about it

Exclusive: World of Jax & robbers
Singer says his brother and pal tried to cheat him out of fortune

BY THOMAS ZAMBITO
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Sunday, June 17th 2007, 4:00 AM

Michael Jackson claims he was nearly swindled out of his fortune during his
kiddie-sex trial and only the wise counsel of the Rev. Jesse Jackson and
billionaire Ron Burkle saved him.

The behind-the-scenes battle over the pop star's finances is detailed in a
sworn deposition he gave for a federal lawsuit scheduled to go to trial this
week.

There is a possibility that Jackson himself might even be called to testify.

The seven hours of transcripts obtained by the Daily News reveal that the
agitated entertainer was convinced his money woes were fueled by a cadre of
disloyal advisers who stole from him while he was busy fighting criminal
charges.

The Gloved One even fingered a man close to his older brother Randy as a key
villain.

It was an ordeal that left Jackson bitter about the industry in which he's
spent his entire life.

"It's full of sharks, charlatans and imposters," he said in testimony taken
last summer in Paris.

"Because there's a lot of money involved, there's a bunch of schmucks in
there," Jackson said. "It's the entertainment world, full of thieves and
crooks. That's not new. Everybody knows that."

A Santa Maria, Calif., jury acquitted him of child molestation charges in
June 2005, after which he retreated into the seclusion of his Neverland
ranch.

But during breaks in the trial, Jackson says he was being pressured to sign
off on a multimillion-dollar financing deal by Don Stabler, an associate
brought in by brother Randy, his go-to guy on financial matters during much
of his career.

Jackson initially took a liking to Stabler after Randy introduced them.

"He reminded me of people that live in mid-America like Indiana," Jackson
testified.

Stabler was persistent, at one point during the trial sending a message
through one of Jackson's Nation of Islam security guards that questioned the
singer's faithfulness to his African-American heritage.

It was a sore point for someone who has denied he purposely lightened his
skin.

By then, Jackson had turned to Burkle, the billionaire pal of former
President Bill Clinton, for financial help. Burkle brought in Jesse Jackson,
who's known Michael Jackson since his Jackson 5 days, to help with the
consultation.

Burkle was calling him on the cell phone during bathroom breaks, warning him
not to sign anything, Michael Jackson said.

Stabler wasn't happy, Jackson said.

"[Stabler] said, 'What's the problem? You're not down, you're with the Jews
now. You're not down with blacks anymore,'" Jackson testified.

"It was unkind," Jackson added. "It was mean. It was meanspirited. It was
nasty. Simply because he couldn't get me to sign something that he wanted me
to sign."

The next time Jackson saw Stabler "he wanted to take my head off." And his
brother Randy wasn't too happy, either.

Randy later claimed that Jackson and his staff had run up a $700,000 bill on
his American Express card during the trial, which Jackson said he would
repay.

It wasn't the first time that Stabler teamed with Randy in trying to get him
to sign off on a deal, Jackson claimed.

At a meeting in a bungalow at the Neverland ranch, Jackson said he had his
mother at his side when he fought off another proposal.

"And I vehemently told them, 'No, I am not signing this,'" Jackson recalled.
"And I just remember how angry, the intensity of the anger in the room. And
so they marched out."

Jackson made his comments when he was grilled by lawyers for the Hackensack,
N.J., finance company that is suing the singer in Manhattan Federal Court.
The firm, Prescient Acquisition, is owned by businessman Darien Dash, who
claims Jackson stiffed his company out of $48 million.

According to Dash's lawyer Steven Altman, Dash was due the money for helping
Jackson refinance a $272 million bank loan and secure $573 million in
financing to buy out Sony's half of the Beatles' song catalogue that Jackson
co-owned.

But Jackson claimed he's never heard of Dash, a cousin of hip-hop impresario
Damon Dash, and doesn't remember signing any agreement.


When he was manager, the State of California had to step in and issue a "No Work Order" because he didn't pay payroll and Workmen's Comp taxes for Neverland employees
[Edited 11/24/09 0:26am]
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Reply #14 posted 11/24/09 12:32am

NastradumasKid

The Gloved One even fingered a man close to his older brother Randy as a key
villain.


I'm sorry but that line had me cracking up!!!!! lol lol lol lol lol falloff falloff
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Reply #15 posted 11/24/09 12:33am

NastradumasKid

BTW, LaToya is a waste of space, she has done nothing good in her life, hell she real don't have anything. lol lol lol lol lol lol
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bboy87

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NastradumasKid said:

The Gloved One even fingered a man close to his older brother Randy as a key
villain.


I'm sorry but that line had me cracking up!!!!! lol lol lol lol lol falloff falloff




lol
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Reply #17 posted 11/24/09 12:35am

NastradumasKid

bboy87 said:

NastradumasKid said:

The Gloved One even fingered a man close to his older brother Randy as a key
villain.


I'm sorry but that line had me cracking up!!!!! lol lol lol lol lol falloff falloff




lol



LAWD JESUS CYFER!!!!! lol lol lol That look is priceless!!!!
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Reply #18 posted 11/24/09 12:41am

bboy87

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NastradumasKid said:

bboy87 said:





lol



LAWD JESUS CYFER!!!!! lol lol lol That look is priceless!!!!

I just got like 10 new gifs.....this week is gonna be fun lol
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Reply #19 posted 11/24/09 12:42am

NastradumasKid

bboy87 said:

NastradumasKid said:




LAWD JESUS CYFER!!!!! lol lol lol That look is priceless!!!!

I just got like 10 new gifs.....this week is gonna be fun lol


gifing whore!!!! That's your nickname for now on!!!!! err "Fingered" LOL!!!
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Reply #20 posted 11/24/09 1:16am

Marrk

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bboy87 said:


plus you gotta remember the brothers are still getting royalties from the Jacksons back catalog cool


That can't amount to much.
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Reply #21 posted 11/24/09 1:30am

mimi07

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bboy87 said:

Rebbie did Vegas for awhile
Jackie does indie stuff
Tito tours constantly
Jermaine does....Jermaine
same for LaToya
Marlon does real estate
Randy...does Randy
and Janet....we all know

plus you gotta remember the brothers are still getting royalties from the Jacksons back catalog cool


didn't marlon also have some channel on tv or a station
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #22 posted 11/24/09 1:31am

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bboy87 said:

TonyVanDam said:



These days, Randy function more like a solider within the family. He was the one that saved LaToya from her abusive husband and well as the once that hired bodyguards for Michael before & during the trial.

Randy was also the original webmaster of Michael's first website.

nod

There was alot of drama about MJJSource. Alot of stuff was a mess at the time


yeah didn't he and karen steal some fans money
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Reply #23 posted 11/24/09 2:47am

bboy87

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Marrk said:

bboy87 said:


plus you gotta remember the brothers are still getting royalties from the Jacksons back catalog cool


That can't amount to much.

Well the albums have done pretty well since Michael's passing and since the brothers had songwriting, producer, and publishing credits, that's a nice hunk of change:

Since 2008
-The Jacksons Story went to #119 on the Billboard 200 in 2009
-Playlist: Very Best Of The Jacksons was #39 on the Billboard R&B album chart in 2009
-both the special editions of Destiny and Triumph peaked at #4 and #2 respectively on the R&B catalog album chart
-Live got to #14 on the R&B catalog album chart
-The Essential Jacksons, the combo set of Destiny and Triumph, Destiny alone, Live and Super Hits were all in the top 20 on the R&B catalog chart after's Michael's passing
-the budget collection "Can You Feel It" got to #7 in the UK

and their music is sampled regularly
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Marrk said:

bboy87 said:


plus you gotta remember the brothers are still getting royalties from the Jacksons back catalog cool


That can't amount to much.


it should be!
if not, somone screwed them royally neutral

they are poor money managers (except for the ladies! including LaToya who does manage to stay working somehow, or finds herself a sugar daddy!!)
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Reply #25 posted 11/24/09 3:17am

SoulAlive

I saw the commercial for the Jacksons' new reality show confused confused
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Reply #26 posted 11/24/09 7:08am

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bboy87 said:

Rebbie did Vegas for awhile
Jackie does indie stuff
Tito tours constantly
Jermaine does....Jermaine
same for LaToya
Marlon does real estate
Randy...does Randy
and Janet....we all know

plus you gotta remember the brothers are still getting royalties from the Jacksons back catalog cool

I thought Randy worked as a stocker for a grocery store? No joking. I remember reading that not too long ago.
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bboy87 said:

purplesweat said:

Randy was Mike's manager for a while, right?

Yep, and apparently tried to get Michael to sign away the Sony/ATV catalog

That's so smart. confused
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Reply #28 posted 11/24/09 8:21am

lowkey

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mookie said:


Here's an article about it

Exclusive: World of Jax & robbers
Singer says his brother and pal tried to cheat him out of fortune

BY THOMAS ZAMBITO
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Sunday, June 17th 2007, 4:00 AM

Michael Jackson claims he was nearly swindled out of his fortune during his
kiddie-sex trial and only the wise counsel of the Rev. Jesse Jackson and
billionaire Ron Burkle saved him.

The behind-the-scenes battle over the pop star's finances is detailed in a
sworn deposition he gave for a federal lawsuit scheduled to go to trial this
week.

There is a possibility that Jackson himself might even be called to testify.

The seven hours of transcripts obtained by the Daily News reveal that the
agitated entertainer was convinced his money woes were fueled by a cadre of
disloyal advisers who stole from him while he was busy fighting criminal
charges.

The Gloved One even fingered a man close to his older brother Randy as a key
villain.

It was an ordeal that left Jackson bitter about the industry in which he's
spent his entire life.

"It's full of sharks, charlatans and imposters," he said in testimony taken
last summer in Paris.

"Because there's a lot of money involved, there's a bunch of schmucks in
there," Jackson said. "It's the entertainment world, full of thieves and
crooks. That's not new. Everybody knows that."

A Santa Maria, Calif., jury acquitted him of child molestation charges in
June 2005, after which he retreated into the seclusion of his Neverland
ranch.

But during breaks in the trial, Jackson says he was being pressured to sign
off on a multimillion-dollar financing deal by Don Stabler, an associate
brought in by brother Randy, his go-to guy on financial matters during much
of his career.

Jackson initially took a liking to Stabler after Randy introduced them.

"He reminded me of people that live in mid-America like Indiana," Jackson
testified.

Stabler was persistent, at one point during the trial sending a message
through one of Jackson's Nation of Islam security guards that questioned the
singer's faithfulness to his African-American heritage.

It was a sore point for someone who has denied he purposely lightened his
skin.

By then, Jackson had turned to Burkle, the billionaire pal of former
President Bill Clinton, for financial help. Burkle brought in Jesse Jackson,
who's known Michael Jackson since his Jackson 5 days, to help with the
consultation.

Burkle was calling him on the cell phone during bathroom breaks, warning him
not to sign anything, Michael Jackson said.

Stabler wasn't happy, Jackson said.

"[Stabler] said, 'What's the problem? You're not down, you're with the Jews
now. You're not down with blacks anymore,'" Jackson testified.

"It was unkind," Jackson added. "It was mean. It was meanspirited. It was
nasty. Simply because he couldn't get me to sign something that he wanted me
to sign."

The next time Jackson saw Stabler "he wanted to take my head off." And his
brother Randy wasn't too happy, either.

Randy later claimed that Jackson and his staff had run up a $700,000 bill on
his American Express card during the trial, which Jackson said he would
repay.

It wasn't the first time that Stabler teamed with Randy in trying to get him
to sign off on a deal, Jackson claimed.

At a meeting in a bungalow at the Neverland ranch, Jackson said he had his
mother at his side when he fought off another proposal.

"And I vehemently told them, 'No, I am not signing this,'" Jackson recalled.
"And I just remember how angry, the intensity of the anger in the room. And
so they marched out."

Jackson made his comments when he was grilled by lawyers for the Hackensack,
N.J., finance company that is suing the singer in Manhattan Federal Court.
The firm, Prescient Acquisition, is owned by businessman Darien Dash, who
claims Jackson stiffed his company out of $48 million.

According to Dash's lawyer Steven Altman, Dash was due the money for helping
Jackson refinance a $272 million bank loan and secure $573 million in
financing to buy out Sony's half of the Beatles' song catalogue that Jackson
co-owned.

But Jackson claimed he's never heard of Dash, a cousin of hip-hop impresario
Damon Dash, and doesn't remember signing any agreement.


When he was manager, the State of California had to step in and issue a "No Work Order" because he didn't pay payroll and Workmen's Comp taxes for Neverland employees
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where does it say he supported all his siblings and their kids? also the story about janet paying the employees was in the media, im not saying its true but it was out there. i dont understand why fans are mad even if he did support his own blood, but didnt say nothing when he was supporting all types of random people, including the families that accused him of molesting kids.
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lowkey said:

bboy87 said:



When he was manager, the State of California had to step in and issue a "No Work Order" because he didn't pay payroll and Workmen's Comp taxes for Neverland employees
[Edited 11/24/09 0:26am]


where does it say he supported all his siblings and their kids? also the story about janet paying the employees was in the media, im not saying its true but it was out there. i dont understand why fans are mad even if he did support his own blood, but didnt say nothing when he was supporting all types of random people, including the families that accused him of molesting kids.

Nobody said they were mad he supported the family, some people feel that with the brother's history (one of the most successful groups of all time.....over 100 million records sold), one would think they would've kept working
I know Janet paid for the funeral expenses but she didn't pay the Neverland staff if I remember correctly

Michael didn't support his siblings. Like I said some of them continued working just on a smaller scale (Rebbie, Tito, Jackie, Marlon, and LaToya) he just gave them money when they needed and supported his nephews and nieces and Mrs. Jackson. I think what they're talking about is when some of the brothers moved back in to Hayvenhurst, which Michael owned and paid the bills

And who said fans wasn't frustrated with him for the part I bolded? You should read the shit I've read about Gavin's family lol
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