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PurpleJam

Albert King 'Born Under A Bad Sign'.

I recently just bought this album on Amazon. I am certainly not a major blues fan by any means, but I know the huge influence that this album had on many rock guitarists who came out of The British Invasion, not to mention Hendrix and SRV. I always heard how Eric Clapton in particular was influenced by King's guitar playing on this album during his time playing with Cream. I also clearly hear King's influence in the playing of one of my personal favorite guitar players who also came out of The British Invasion, Mick Taylor. I think I hear more of Albert King's sound and style in Taylor's playing than I do anyone else, including Clapton, Hendrix or SRV.

Anyway I just want to say that it is indeed a great album and it was/is very influential. I think that it's the type of blues album that appeals to those who are not really into pure blues music. I like all the horns too. And I love the album cover as well!
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Reply #1 posted 11/21/09 9:17pm

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Oh yes Born Under a Bad Sign is awesome.
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Reply #2 posted 11/21/09 9:37pm

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Ironically yesterday I made an Albert compilation from itunes.

The fun part as a guitar player is seeing how Eric, Jimi and SRV all put different spins on Albert's licks.

The source is the same but they all had their own "touch" that makes it interesting.











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carlcranshaw said:

Ironically yesterday I made an Albert compilation from itunes.

The fun part as a guitar player is seeing how Eric, Jimi and SRV all put different spins on Albert's licks.

The source is the same but they all had their own "touch" that makes it interesting.









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PurpleJam said:

I recently just bought this album on Amazon. I am certainly not a major blues fan by any means, but I know the huge influence that this album had on many rock guitarists who came out of The British Invasion, not to mention Hendrix and SRV. I always heard how Eric Clapton in particular was influenced by King's guitar playing on this album during his time playing with Cream. I also clearly hear King's influence in the playing of one of my personal favorite guitar players who also came out of The British Invasion, Mick Taylor. I think I hear more of Albert King's sound and style in Taylor's playing than I do anyone else, including Clapton, Hendrix or SRV.

Anyway I just want to say that it is indeed a great album and it was/is very influential. I think that it's the type of blues album that appeals to those who are not really into pure blues music. I like all the horns too. And I love the album cover as well!
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Reply #5 posted 11/22/09 5:23am

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Hi BG,

Hope all is well.
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Reply #6 posted 11/22/09 9:48am

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Very cool selection of clips carlcranshaw!

For anyone who might also be interested, even though the clip of Mick Taylor provided by carlcranshaw is unable to play, try and find at the bottom of the clip the videos of both Bob Dylan, 'All Along the Watchtower Live' with MT and 'The Best of Mick Taylor and The Rolling Stones Live Part 4/4' and listen to the 2ND version of 'Street Fighting Man' from Brussels. I would be curious to know what any of you think of MT's playing with either Dylan or The Stones. His soloing on 'Street Fighting Man' has some slight Middle Eastern phrasing to it. Just try and ignore Jagger's horribly rushed vocals!
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I loves me some Albert King. In '69 I saw "The Three Kings" tour in Chicago.

This was Albert King, Freddy King and BB King on the same bill. Nobody was top billed and they took turns leading off, going second and closing on consectuive nights.

What a night that was for me and at the end they all came out and had a cutting contest to finish up.

Born Under a Bad Sign is Albert's signature song but I always thought Crosscut Saw was the badder tune.

Funny though, I searched through 12 pages on Youtube and couldn't find it anywhere... not by Albert anyway. SRV, Clapton, Taylor versions were there as well as a lot of relatively unknown bands versions but no Albert. sad
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Reply #8 posted 11/22/09 12:25pm

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carlcranshaw said:

Hi BG,

Hope all is well.

It is, very much so. Thank you and I hope the same for you.
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PurpleJam said:

Very cool selection of clips carlcranshaw!

For anyone who might also be interested, even though the clip of Mick Taylor provided by carlcranshaw is unable to play, try and find at the bottom of the clip the videos of both Bob Dylan, 'All Along the Watchtower Live' with MT and 'The Best of Mick Taylor and The Rolling Stones Live Part 4/4' and listen to the 2ND version of 'Street Fighting Man' from Brussels. I would be curious to know what any of you think of MT's playing with either Dylan or The Stones. His soloing on 'Street Fighting Man' has some slight Middle Eastern phrasing to it. Just try and ignore Jagger's horribly rushed vocals!
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I replaced it with "Laudromat Blues" by Mick Taylor.
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Reply #10 posted 11/22/09 2:59pm

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carlcranshaw said:

PurpleJam said:

Very cool selection of clips carlcranshaw!

For anyone who might also be interested, even though the clip of Mick Taylor provided by carlcranshaw is unable to play, try and find at the bottom of the clip the videos of both Bob Dylan, 'All Along the Watchtower Live' with MT and 'The Best of Mick Taylor and The Rolling Stones Live Part 4/4' and listen to the 2ND version of 'Street Fighting Man' from Brussels. I would be curious to know what any of you think of MT's playing with either Dylan or The Stones. His soloing on 'Street Fighting Man' has some slight Middle Eastern phrasing to it. Just try and ignore Jagger's horribly rushed vocals!
[Edited 11/22/09 10:16am]


I replaced it with "Laudromat Blues" by Mick Taylor.


That's cool. Fine job carlcranshaw.
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Reply #11 posted 11/22/09 3:03pm

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Guitarist Joe Walsh of The Eagles once made the statement that Albert King could blow Eddie Van Halen off the stage with his amp on standby. OUCCH!
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Reply #12 posted 11/22/09 3:15pm

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DakutiusMaximus said:

I loves me some Albert King. In '69 I saw "The Three Kings" tour in Chicago.

This was Albert King, Freddy King and BB King on the same bill. Nobody was top billed and they took turns leading off, going second and closing on consectuive nights.

What a night that was for me and at the end they all came out and had a cutting contest to finish up.

Born Under a Bad Sign is Albert's signature song but I always thought Crosscut Saw was the badder tune.

Funny though, I searched through 12 pages on Youtube and couldn't find it anywhere... not by Albert anyway. SRV, Clapton, Taylor versions were there as well as a lot of relatively unknown bands versions but no Albert. sad



'Crosscut Saw' is tops and one of my favorite tracks on the album. But he really just blazes with his guitar on the track 'Personal Manager'. Outstanding solo!
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I've never heard "Born Under A Bad Sign" but I love the title! lol
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Reply #14 posted 11/22/09 8:04pm

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Born Under A Bad Sign...



...was one of the Mobile Fidelity UHQR™ vinyl re-releases in 1993.



Albert King & SRV...




...Texas Flood




...Pride And Joy




...Matchbox Blues




...Ask Me No Questions




...Stormy Monday




...Don't Lie To Me



Music for adventurous listeners


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Reply #15 posted 11/23/09 7:42am

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Dayam... if tA can't find a video of Crosscut Saw by the man himself then I guess it ain't out there.

Wait a minute. I just found one out of the UK but it's a collection of stills but that's better than nuthin' but left me wanting more at only 2:38.

http://uk.video.yahoo.com...79/8280770

Found a 4 and half minute live version on Rhapsody at:

http://www.rhapsody.com/a...-francisco

From the review: For this 1983 release, King stripped back his sound and returned to a simple 5-piece band for a solid set of new songs. Of particular interest is the searing title cut. It was his first record in four years.

It was a bit of a tradeoff for me though, more guitar work and funky talkin' to the audience but the horns are missing. sad
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DakutiusMaximus said:

Dayam... if tA can't find a video of Crosscut Saw by the man himself then I guess it ain't out there. sad

This isn't the first time i've looked for a recording and had to slog through everybody and his brother's version of a tune without locating the original recording by the original artist.

disbelief What a travesty.



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PurpleJam said:

Guitarist Joe Walsh of The Eagles once made the statement that Albert King could blow Eddie Van Halen off the stage with his amp on standby. OUCCH!

Yep, I remember reading that too.
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PurpleJam said:

Very cool selection of clips carlcranshaw!

For anyone who might also be interested, even though the clip of Mick Taylor provided by carlcranshaw is unable to play, try and find at the bottom of the clip the videos of both Bob Dylan, 'All Along the Watchtower Live' with MT and 'The Best of Mick Taylor and The Rolling Stones Live Part 4/4' and listen to the 2ND version of 'Street Fighting Man' from Brussels. I would be curious to know what any of you think of MT's playing with either Dylan or The Stones. His soloing on 'Street Fighting Man' has some slight Middle Eastern phrasing to it. Just try and ignore Jagger's horribly rushed vocals!
[Edited 11/22/09 10:16am]

Yep, carl doesn't get the fanfare for his great clips that he should! wink But yeah, Mick Taylor I think, is very good. I like his playing more outside from The Stones than when he was with them. I know this is slightly off topic but every time I think of Taylor, I think of one of the coolest women to play axe and that's Carla Olson!. Man, I used to have such a hella crush on her when I saw her in Dylan's video, "Sweetheart Like You" in 83. I bought Dylan's album Infidels because of that song. I remember thinking that was Carla playing that solo in that song, which I love, and I have had hearts in my eyes for her ever since. Although it was Taylor who actually recorded the solo! But yeah, "Sweetheart Like You" is an all time fave of mine.
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Reply #19 posted 11/23/09 2:00pm

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blackguitaristz said:

PurpleJam said:

Very cool selection of clips carlcranshaw!

For anyone who might also be interested, even though the clip of Mick Taylor provided by carlcranshaw is unable to play, try and find at the bottom of the clip the videos of both Bob Dylan, 'All Along the Watchtower Live' with MT and 'The Best of Mick Taylor and The Rolling Stones Live Part 4/4' and listen to the 2ND version of 'Street Fighting Man' from Brussels. I would be curious to know what any of you think of MT's playing with either Dylan or The Stones. His soloing on 'Street Fighting Man' has some slight Middle Eastern phrasing to it. Just try and ignore Jagger's horribly rushed vocals!
[Edited 11/22/09 10:16am]

Yep, carl doesn't get the fanfare for his great clips that he should! wink But yeah, Mick Taylor I think, is very good. I like his playing more outside from The Stones than when he was with them. I know this slightly off topic but every time I think of Taylor, I think of one of the coolest women to play axe and that's Carla Olson!. Man, I used to have such a hella crush on her when I saw her in Dylan's video, "Sweetheart Like You" in 83. I bought Dylan's album Infidels because of that song. I remember thinking that was Carla playing that solo in that song, which I love, and was had hearts in my eyes for her ever since. Although it was Taylor who actually recorded the solo! But yeah, "Sweetheart Like You" is an all time fave of mine.
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I am very familiar with Carla Olson's work due to her numerous collaborations with MT. I have purchased pretty much all of her albums that feature him. The most famous may be their live album 'Too Hot For Snakes' which includes a version of The Rolling Stones song 'Sway'. Carla gives Mick the opportunity to really solo on this song as opposed to the studio version on The Stones' 'Sticky Fingers' album where they fade out Taylor's great solo just as he was beginning to take off. I heard an interview with Carla once where she said she never understood why The Stones' chose to fade out MT's guitar solo on 'Sway'. I don't either Carla!

Just wanted to add this small bit of info on Carla and MT.

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PurpleJam said:

blackguitaristz said:


Yep, carl doesn't get the fanfare for his great clips that he should! wink But yeah, Mick Taylor I think, is very good. I like his playing more outside from The Stones than when he was with them. I know this slightly off topic but every time I think of Taylor, I think of one of the coolest women to play axe and that's Carla Olson!. Man, I used to have such a hella crush on her when I saw her in Dylan's video, "Sweetheart Like You" in 83. I bought Dylan's album Infidels because of that song. I remember thinking that was Carla playing that solo in that song, which I love, and was had hearts in my eyes for her ever since. Although it was Taylor who actually recorded the solo! But yeah, "Sweetheart Like You" is an all time fave of mine.
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I am very familiar with Carla Olson's work due to her numerous collaborations with MT. I have purchased pretty much all of her albums that feature him. The most famous may be their live album 'Too Hot For Snakes' which includes a version of The Rolling Stones song 'Sway'. Carla gives Mick the opportunity to really solo on this song as opposed to the studio version on The Stones' 'Sticky Fingers' album where they fade out Taylor's great solo just as he was beginning to take off. I heard an interview with Carla once where she said she never understood why The Stones' chose to fade out MT's guitar solo on 'Sway'. I don't either Carla!

Just wanted to add this small bit of info on Carla and MT.

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[Edited 11/23/09 17:06pm]

Orinthi, who I have been crushing on as well, reminds me of Carla. Damn, I'm worse than John Derek! biggrin
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blackguitaristz said:



Orinthi, who I have been crushing on as well, reminds me of Carla. Damn, I'm worse than John Derek! biggrin


Well, it's our job to mentor these female guitarists uh, to uh, point them in the right direction. To make sure they have their licks down.

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carlcranshaw said:

blackguitaristz said:



Orinthi, who I have been crushing on as well, reminds me of Carla. Damn, I'm worse than John Derek! biggrin


Well, it's our job to mentor these female guitarists uh, to uh, point them in the right direction. To make sure they have their licks down.

(Giggity. Giggity. Giggity. Alllll Riiiiight.)

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Hella true and ALSO, in Orinthi's case, it's also my job to make sure that she's pointing something else of mine in the right direction! Down below, between two and dead center...Know what I'm sayin', player? razz wink cool
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BG said: [/quote]
Hella true and ALSO, in Orinthi's case, it's also my job to make sure that she's pointing something else of mine in the right direction! Down below, between two and dead center...Know what I'm sayin', player? razz wink cool[/quote]

That's EXACTLY what I'm saying. I give Orianthi three thumbs up.


*Disclaimer for those who feel that we are being sexist and forsaking the musical subject of the blues, here is Orianthi at the Crossroads Festival.


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carlcranshaw said:

BG said:

Hella true and ALSO, in Orinthi's case, it's also my job to make sure that she's pointing something else of mine in the right direction! Down below, between two and dead center...Know what I'm sayin', player? razz wink cool[/quote]

That's EXACTLY what I'm saying. I give Orianthi three thumbs up.


*Disclaimer for those who feel that we are being sexist and forsaking the musical subject of the blues, here is Orianthi at the Crossroads Festival.


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PurpleJam said:

Guitarist Joe Walsh of The Eagles once made the statement that Albert King could blow Eddie Van Halen off the stage with his amp on standby. OUCCH!

And Joe Walsh is NO slouch on the axe himself.
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Reply #26 posted 11/28/09 2:51pm

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blackguitaristz said:

PurpleJam said:

Guitarist Joe Walsh of The Eagles once made the statement that Albert King could blow Eddie Van Halen off the stage with his amp on standby. OUCCH!

And Joe Walsh is NO slouch on the axe himself.



No slouch indeed. He's also got quite an interesting personality and a very dry sense of humor. Enjoyable to hear the man play and talk!
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PurpleJam said:

blackguitaristz said:


And Joe Walsh is NO slouch on the axe himself.



No slouch indeed. He's also got quite an interesting personality and a very dry sense of humor. Enjoyable to hear the man play and talk!

Yep....I loved his solo stuff after he left The Eagles. His lyrics are very cool. cool
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carlcranshaw said:

BG said:

Hella true and ALSO, in Orinthi's case, it's also my job to make sure that she's pointing something else of mine in the right direction! Down below, between two and dead center...Know what I'm sayin', player? razz wink cool[/quote]

That's EXACTLY what I'm saying. I give Orianthi three thumbs up.


*Disclaimer for those who feel that we are being sexist and forsaking the musical subject of the blues, here is Orianthi at the Crossroads Festival.


[Edited 11/24/09 17:38pm]
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Hey Carl my brutha, have you checked out my girl's new album "Believe"?...I'm digging it myself!
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No, not yet. I'll go to itunes and check it out.
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