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PrintableMilitant said: mimi07 said:  got to agree with Militant
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Close....I'm an Aquarius. And yeah...the real root of a progressive society is logic, not religion Logic solves problems and religion causes them
I'm an Atheist too (although I guess that's obvious). Being agnostic is just sitting on the fence, you gotta make a stand one way or the other really. I like your "giant squirrel" metaphor - it's so true! Did you ever see that episode of Family Guy where they transport into different parallel universes? One of the universes is the same as ours but really technologically advanced, futuristic and amazing. One of the characters, Quagmire, a womanizer, catches AIDS and he just says "Well, I'll just take my Nyquil: Colds, Flu and AIDS" - pops the pill and he's cured, LOL.. The explanation for that universe was something like "in this universe, religion never existed, and so the dark ages of scientific oppression never happened!" It was hilarious because it was so true. Belief in gods is responsible for more suffering and war than anything else, and it's basically a disease that halts the progression of the human race. If it weren't for religious people oppressing science, we'd probably have cures for cancer, AIDS, etc by now. MidniteMagnet said: I've always been intrigued by the fervert religiosity of many black people in the US too. It's very likely that their ancestors didn't believe in Jesus until they were forced into slavery by whites and became influenced (over time) by the whites. Eventually the salves adopted the same beliefs as the whites. But apparently God liked the whites better because he made them the owners and he made the blacks the slaves. That's pretty fucked up.
I think in general people have a hard time accepting the fact that when we die, we just rot in our caskets and our body shrivels up. It's a coping mechanism to believe in God because it makes people feel safe and it allows them not to face the facts about their impending death and the random bad shit that happens to them in their lifetime. I think life is a series of random shit, good and bad. Agreed. Nothing pisses me off more than when something bad happens and some moron pops out with the classic phrase "Well I guess this was part of god's plan". THERE'S NO FUCKING PLAN YOU DIPSHIT. OK, yeah, your totally awesome god planned for your relative/friend/loved one to die a horrible painful death from a terminal illness. Yeah he meant for your young child who hasn't even experienced life yet to get cancer and die. What an awesome guy! LOL. Shit just happens, and people waste away their lives believing that they aren't in control of their own life. I've had a very successful career so far (I'm in my early 20's and my band already has a few platinum albums and we just put out a Greatest Hits compilation), it's not because of any "blessing" from some omnipotent being, it's because I worked my ass off since I was a teenager, created opportunities for myself, took those opportunities and grafted to be all that I could be. The rewards I've seen are a direct result to my hard work. Pisses me off when artists and actors win awards and thank god. Really, they should be thanking the hard work of the people around them that are reponsible for their success - why does the actor never thank the director, screenwriter, camera crew, wardrobe crew, makeup crew, runners, etc when they win the award? It's them that deserve the thanks. I'd always trust an atheist doctor over a religious one too. If you have a religious doctor, that means that he doesn't believe he has 100% control what happens to you, when really he does. Life is definitely just a series of random shit. Thing is, if you take accountability for it, you have more control over the good shit and the bad shit. I have seen many actors and singers thank their behind the scene crews. People can thank whoever they want for their success. Why should people stop thanking God just because some people don't believe in God. If a person wants to thank their God, mother, self, or dog why should that matter to me or you? Doctors can not control everything. I don't care if they are regligious or not. Anyways Chaz has made the decision to have a sex change and this is his business. | |
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Chaz reminds me of John Candy now. Anyhow, glad he is feeling good now. | |
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Purplestar88 said: I have seen many actors and singers thank their behind the scene crews. People can thank whoever they want for their success. Why should people stop thanking God just because some people don't believe in God. If a person wants to thank their God, mother, self, or dog why should that matter to me or you? Doctors can not control everything. I don't care if they are regligious or not. Anyways Chaz has made the decision to have a sex change and this is his business. can you stop capitilizing the letter g please like it's someone's name and not the first letter of a FICTIONAL creation. as a human being, i find it offensive. |
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moderatorehuffnsd said: vainandy said: I don't think God makes mistakes either. I think he does everything he does for a reason. Since we don't choose to be gay, I think he makes people gay for a reason and only he knows that reason, not us. But changing your sex goes completely against what you were born as. And not only that, I think it's more a matter of a confused gay person trying to turn themselves into something that they consider as acceptable to society such as the opposite sex. Since they are attracted to the same sex, it would certainly look more "normal" to straight society to see a male and a female together rather than to see two males or two females. Changing into the other sex probably makes them think they fit into the so-called "normal" world. It's gay self hate is what it is. wow andy you really need to talk to some transgendered people. Yeah, a surprising attack. I think it's quite simple. A transgendered person wants to be their true self. If 'god' has placed same-sex attraction into a body, why couldn't 'god' place female gender into a body with male sex or vice versa? | |
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Militant said: Purplestar88 said: I have seen many actors and singers thank their behind the scene crews. People can thank whoever they want for their success. Why should people stop thanking God just because some people don't believe in God. If a person wants to thank their God, mother, self, or dog why should that matter to me or you? Doctors can not control everything. I don't care if they are regligious or not. Anyways Chaz has made the decision to have a sex change and this is his business. can you stop capitilizing the letter g please like it's someone's name and not the first letter of a FICTIONAL creation. as a human being, i find it offensive.  I can do what I want. You can do want you want. So you think God is fictional. I don't care if you believe in God or not. Like I said people can thank who they want. "can you stop capitilizing the letter g please like it's someone's name and not the first letter of a FICTIONAL creation. as a human being, i find it offensive." Just wow! | |
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Purplestar88 said: I can do what I want. You can do want you want. So you think God is fictional. I don't care if you believe in God or not. Like I said people can thank who they want. "can you stop capitilizing the letter g please like it's someone's name and not the first letter of a FICTIONAL creation. as a human being, i find it offensive." Just wow!i'm not sure what you're laughing about, I suppose you enjoy offending people. "I can do what I want" - well if that isn't the most mature response in the world. You sound like a 3 year old. You give all the religious folk a bad name with your childishness. |
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ScarletScandal said: Timmy84 said: Oh shit.  Co- room for 1 more? 
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CHIC0 said: ScarletScandal said: Co- room for 1 more? Sure! I'll bring the  and the  | |
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ScarletScandal said: CHIC0 said: room for 1 more? Sure! I'll bring the and the 
Bboy: Michael, get yourself back to heaven! Michael: shut up! I ain't tryin' to miss this shit! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: ScarletScandal said: Sure! I'll bring the and the
Bboy: Michael, get yourself back to heaven! Michael: shut up! I ain't tryin' to miss this shit! [Edited 11/20/09 18:32pm] "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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Countthedays said: If gender is between your ears, then why is she having her tits cut off and having male horomone treatments? I think she's just conforming to definition of a man. I agree with you totally. I believe in reincarnation and that the only reason men or women like each other of the same sexes, is because we were once a man or a woman in our past lives. Cher got a double dose because both of her offspring are gay.
Cher has another gay child?  | |
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bboy87 said: ScarletScandal said: Sure! I'll bring the and the
Bboy: Michael, get yourself back to heaven! Michael: shut up! I ain't tryin' to miss this shit! He gonna moonwalk all OVER yo' ass!
WHY was I thinking about that gif yesterday? out of nowhere? | |
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sextonseven said: Countthedays said
Cher has another gay child? I think they're talking about her son Elijah Blue Allman JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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Militant said: Purplestar88 said: I have seen many actors and singers thank their behind the scene crews. People can thank whoever they want for their success. Why should people stop thanking God just because some people don't believe in God. If a person wants to thank their God, mother, self, or dog why should that matter to me or you? Doctors can not control everything. I don't care if they are regligious or not. Anyways Chaz has made the decision to have a sex change and this is his business. can you stop capitilizing the letter g please like it's someone's name and not the first letter of a FICTIONAL creation. as a human being, i find it offensive. And wtf does this topic have to do with God anyway? | |
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Paris9748430 said: sextonseven said: Countthedays said
Cher has another gay child? I think they're talking about her son Elijah Blue Allman He didn't sound gay going by the things he said in his appearance on Howard Stern. | |
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Well, not only do I recognize God as a proper noun, I also capitalize pronouns that refer to Him as well. I've never heard of that being "offensive" to anyone. God is not a derogatory term. If you don't believe in God, that's your choice, but those of us who do don't have to stop honoring Him for you. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
"Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD | |
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WaterInYourBath said:
Well, not only do I recognize God as a proper noun, I also capitalize pronouns that refer to Him as well. I've never heard of that being "offensive" to anyone. God is not a derogatory term. If you don't believe in God, that's your choice, but those of us who do don't have to stop honoring Him for you.
You know, I don't even get upset when people woh don't believe don't capital the name but to tell someone to stop capitalizing something is just messed up. | |
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Vendetta1 said: Until any of you can prove that God does not exist, y'all really need to stop with the disrespect.
Are you serious? The burden of proof is on the believer. That's like if I told you the world was created by a flying neon dolphin, and justified my belief by saying "Prove it doesn't exist". It's up to YOU to prove that "god" exists, not me to prove that it doesnt. and yeah, the capitalisation of god like it's a name is offensive to me as an atheist human being. it ain't a name. it ain't a thing. it's imaginary and for all the millions of you that believe in it, ain't none of y'all still been able to provide a single piece of tangible evidence. until you can, it means about as much to me as horseshit. One person with a delusion is insanity. Many people with a delusion is religion. ~ R. Pirsig
Religion is for the ignorant, weak minded and short sighted. ~ Jeff Goin
"Religion should be wiped out, so that people may live." ~ Ziggy Marley (Bob Marley's son)
If the Bible proves that God exists then comic books prove the existence of Superman. ~ Anon
I'm against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world. ~ Richard Dawkins
God is an imaginary friend for adults. ~ Anon
"Religion easily has the best bullshit story of all time." ~ George Carlin
"Faith is the determination to remain ignorant when it's evident that you are ignorant." ~ Shaun Mason
“Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence." ~ Richard Dawkins
"All thinking men are atheists." ~ Ernest Hemingway
"If you could reason with religious people there would be no religious people!" ~ Gregory House
The inspiration of the Bible depends upon the ignorance of the reader. ~ Robert Ingersoll
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Militant said: Vendetta1 said: Until any of you can prove that God does not exist, y'all really need to stop with the disrespect.
Are you serious? The burden of proof is on the believer. That's like if I told you the world was created by a flying neon dolphin, and justified my belief by saying "Prove it doesn't exist". It's up to YOU to prove that "god" exists, not me to prove that it doesnt. and yeah, the capitalisation of god like it's a name is offensive to me as an atheist human being. it ain't a name. it ain't a thing. it's imaginary and for all the millions of you that believe in it, ain't none of y'all still been able to provide a single piece of tangible evidence. until you can, it means about as much to me as horseshit. "A lie is a lie even if everyone believes it. The truth is the truth even if nobody believes it." ~ David Stevens I can perfectly respect that a lot of people are atheist or agnostic. Too bad some of you can't do the same. | |
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Vendetta1 said: Militant said: Whatever dude. God. God. God. God. God.I can perfectly respect that a lot of people are atheist or agnostic. Too bad some of you can't do the same. way to ignore my perfectly valid argument.....oh wait there's no counter argument. too bad, guess i'm right. |
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Militant said: Vendetta1 said: Whatever dude. God. God. God. God. God.
I can perfectly respect that a lot of people are atheist or agnostic. Too bad some of you can't do the same. way to ignore my perfectly valid argument.....oh wait there's no counter argument. too bad, guess i'm right. Perhaps you'd understand if someone shit all over something that means a lot to you. | |
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Maybe we're not supposed to understand. It's weird but we'll never discover why we're here and why we end up where we end up. There's never a defiant answer of anything. It's like you'll never know why there's sun, then moon, then blue skies, then stars among black, then when do we come in the picture.
Being spiritual I was always told (and believe) that God created us in his image...on THE INSIDE not the outside. That's up to the mother's womb and the father's seed how we turn out and sometimes it can get complicated as it did with Chaz Bono. | |
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nice quotes Militant!
i don't like the word atheist because it's associated with negativity. i believe people needed someone to praise when things went good and someone to blame when things went bad hence god and the devil. the bible could have been written by anyone. there is no proof any of those things took place. it doesn't mention dinosaurs which we know existed and it doesn't explain things thoroughly, i don't understand how so many people get brainwashed and they don't question the inaccuracy of it.i love science and science has given me proof of evolution and how the univerise was created and alot of other extrodinary phenomena. why would an all powerful being allow such cruelty and injustice in the world? i respect all religions because they give people faith which makes them feel better and gives them hope for a better future and i'm all for that so i won't bad mouth god or any other religious figures. "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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mimi07 said: nice quotes Militant!
I am a believer and I question the bible all the time. I think it is a gross generalization and basically not true to say people don't question things in the bible. Unless people of faith are doing something to hurt you guys, I do not understand the need to insult people who don't believe as you do.i don't like the word atheist because it's associated with negativity. i believe people needed someone to praise when things went good and someone to blame when things went bad hence god and the devil. the bible could have been written by anyone. there is no proof any of those things took place. it doesn't mention dinosaurs which we know existed and it doesn't explain things thoroughly, i don't understand how so many people get brainwashed and they don't question the inaccuracy of it.i love science and science has given me proof of evolution and how the univerise was created and alot of other extrodinary phenomena. why would an all powerful being allow such cruelty and injustice in the world? i respect all religions because they give people faith which makes them feel better and gives them hope for a better future and i'm all for that so i won't bad mouth god or any other religious figures. | |
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Vendetta1 said: mimi07 said: nice quotes Militant!
I am a believer and I question the bible all the time. I think it is a gross generalization and basically not true to say people don't question things in the bible. Unless people of faith are doing something to hurt you guys, I do not understand the need to insult people who don't believe as you do.i don't like the word atheist because it's associated with negativity. i believe people needed someone to praise when things went good and someone to blame when things went bad hence god and the devil. the bible could have been written by anyone. there is no proof any of those things took place. it doesn't mention dinosaurs which we know existed and it doesn't explain things thoroughly, i don't understand how so many people get brainwashed and they don't question the inaccuracy of it.i love science and science has given me proof of evolution and how the univerise was created and alot of other extrodinary phenomena. why would an all powerful being allow such cruelty and injustice in the world? i respect all religions because they give people faith which makes them feel better and gives them hope for a better future and i'm all for that so i won't bad mouth god or any other religious figures. i didn't generalize, i said i don't know how so many people. if your not one of them then don't get offended. also did i say i was hurt?u not read my entire post, i said i respect all religions so i don't insult people with different beliefs than me. "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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mimi07 said: Vendetta1 said: I am a believer and I question the bible all the time. I think it is a gross generalization and basically not true to say people don't question things in the bible. Unless people of faith are doing something to hurt you guys, I do not understand the need to insult people who don't believe as you do.
i didn't generalize, i said i don't know how so many people. if your not one of them then don't get offended. also did i say i was hurt?u not read my entire post, i said i respect all religions so i don't insult people with different beliefs than me. 
Anywho, like I initially said for Chaz, good for him. Religion should have never entered this conversation in the first place. | |
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PurpleGstring said: That is ridiculous to call God a lie! If God wanted
her to be a man she would have been born one. I feel so sorry for Cher. So if a baby is born with a fixable defect we shouldn't bother right? I mean, if god wanted them born well, he would have made them that way.  | |
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Vendetta1 said: Religion should have never entered this conversation in the first place.
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johnart said: PurpleGstring said: That is ridiculous to call God a lie! If God wanted
her to be a man she would have been born one. I feel so sorry for Cher. So if a baby is born with a fixable defect we shouldn't bother right? I mean, if god wanted them born well, he would have made them that way. Johnart to the rescue to bring the thread back on topic! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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