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Reply #210 posted 11/20/09 5:54pm

seeingvoices12

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Bboy..leak this, I know you have the full version..... confused



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MICHAEL JACKSON
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مايكل جاكسون للأبد
1958
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Reply #211 posted 11/20/09 5:54pm

Timmy84

seeingvoices12 said:

babybugz said:


That's actually a insult to me sad neutral I wonder how I got into this fandom sometimes lol lol

didn't mean to insult you , its ok hug

Sometimes I feel the need to address some points about MJ's personal life but that was in the past, when Mj was alive, but there is really no point now, he is no longer with us , whats the point to talk about his personal life?


Plus.....

Enough of criticizing the Jackson family please, regardless of what happened between them, which happens between any freaking family, they lost a member of the family….it was hard for every one of them……..

Of course Joe Jackson is excluded, you guys can rip him to shreds……….


Yeah I mean no harm to the siblings and mama. But fuck Joe's ass to the tenth degree. lol
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Reply #212 posted 11/20/09 5:56pm

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Timmy84 said:

seeingvoices12 said:


didn't mean to insult you , its ok hug

Sometimes I feel the need to address some points about MJ's personal life but that was in the past, when Mj was alive, but there is really no point now, he is no longer with us , whats the point to talk about his personal life?


Plus.....

Enough of criticizing the Jackson family please, regardless of what happened between them, which happens between any freaking family, they lost a member of the family….it was hard for every one of them……..

Of course Joe Jackson is excluded, you guys can rip him to shreds……….


Yeah I mean no harm to the siblings and mama. But fuck Joe's ass to the tenth degree. lol



lol lol
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Reply #213 posted 11/20/09 5:58pm

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Identity said:


i'm gonna cry, i can't wait to get this. i'll have to burn niccas hands off who touch this without gloves on lol
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Reply #214 posted 11/20/09 5:58pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

Bboy..leak this, I know you have the full version..... confused



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Believe me, if I had the full version, I would've leaked it like yesterday lol
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #215 posted 11/20/09 6:02pm

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bboy87 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

Bboy..leak this, I know you have the full version..... confused



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Believe me, if I had the full version, I would've leaked it like yesterday lol

I want that song eek
MICHAEL JACKSON
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Reply #216 posted 11/20/09 6:04pm

StillDirrty

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i found this article on the web:
http://www.anesthesiology...le_id=7579

from the article: "in his experience, Dr. Manejwala said, nearly every propofol addict started injecting to overcome persistent insomnia."

so it could be that
a) propofol has been known as a substance that can be used for insomnia
b) propofol can become addictive for some.


was mj addicted to propofol? it seems that he was first administered it for his insomnia in 1997 during his tour.

did he continue to use it over the course of the next 12 years? i don't know. did he become addicted during the six weeks murray was with him? according to murray, he thought mj was becoming addicted, but i'm not thoroughly convinced i should believe murray.

does it matter if he was addicted to propofol or anything else? for me, not that much.

the crux of this case is not so much that murray administered the drug. it's that he didn't really try to help mj after seeing him in distress. based on some of the info that has come out, it appears that murray administered too high a dosage, and instead of getting mj to a hospital right away, he tried to save his own butt.

according to what's come out, murray wasn't licensed to be practicing medicine in ca. and didn't have the right certification to procure the drugs in the first place. he thought if he waited long enough for the propofol to be distributed thru mj's body, it wouldn't be detected, mj could be declared dead and few people would be the wiser without a special autopsy.

i think murray had a legit reason for administering the propofol. mj's insomnia is a legit reason even if was administered unorthodoxly outside of a hospital. (a dentist who murray and mj know, admits he administers the drug to his patients for some procedures; i presume he's doing it in his office). so if there was a legit reason for him to have administered the drug, then why not tell the ucla doctors?

as i've said before, murray is really in trouble not so much for what he did, but for what he didn't do, i think.
[Edited 11/20/09 14:47pm]

He also had several Benzodiazepines in his system. Lorazepam was the other cause of death according to the report. Dr. Drew told CNN that benzodiazepines are highly addicting and should never be given to an addict. However, the anesthesiologist on Larry King said that those drugs are commonly used with Propofol.
[Edited 11/20/09 18:06pm]
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Reply #217 posted 11/20/09 6:04pm

alphastreet

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lowkey said:




ok im confused, if you claim he cut them off and they didnt see him for years how can they be responsible for delaying his career? he was accused of child molestation twice, i think that had more to do with derailing his career then his family. i actually think when he isolated himself from his family and let all these strangers take control of his life was when the problems started. are you saying you believe michael was a child molester? there is way more evidence of him being a drug addict then there is of him molesting those kids.

They delayed his career from 77 to 85. That's a fact, honey.

There is no evidence of him being a drug addict. Read the guy's autopsy report.
And yes, I'm starting to think he was a paedophile because of what Latoya Jackson said. What was the point of accusing him? She had nothing to gain.
[Edited 11/20/09 17:09pm]
[Edited 11/20/09 17:11pm]




why now?
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Reply #218 posted 11/20/09 6:08pm

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BULL propofol is an anesthetic, it can NOT be used for sleep because it doesn't help a person go thru REM which is a point of sleep.

no one could survive this type of treatment

1.murray is not an anesthesiologist
2.he did not have the proper equipment
3.more than one person needs to be around to ensure the safety of the patient
4.he gave michael tons of sedatives before so michael was BOUND to stop breathing and murray wasn't prepared
5.he didn't even call the paramedic immediately

i have NO clue how michael survied this treatment for 6 weeks,this is so reckless. it was inevitable that something was going to happen. it was a disaster in the making and if murray doesn't believe that then he has more problems then he himself knows.

i don't know how he could think he did nothing wrong, he seemed to have done EVERYTHING wrong from the getgo by not getting michael safe help for his insomnia.
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Reply #219 posted 11/20/09 6:15pm

Timmy84

Mimi post some MJ pics or get GIFed. lol
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Reply #220 posted 11/20/09 6:16pm

Timmy84

seeingvoices12 said:

bboy87 said:


Believe me, if I had the full version, I would've leaked it like yesterday lol

I want that song eek


Maybe it'll leak in Jan. 2010 lol here's hoping. lol
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Reply #221 posted 11/20/09 6:17pm

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Timmy84 said:

seeingvoices12 said:


I want that song eek


Maybe it'll leak in Jan. 2010 lol here's hoping. lol

Stuff is gonna leak....REAL soon.....
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Reply #222 posted 11/20/09 6:22pm

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Timmy84 said:

Mimi post some MJ pics or get GIFed. lol


sorry people getting me mad thinking about the incompetence of that doctor...*goes and get pics*
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Reply #223 posted 11/20/09 6:26pm

lowkey

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lowkey said:




sorry but i cant resist asking this dude/or girl questions because he/she says the most ridiculous things. i can really care less about his personal life i just think its wrong how people are coming at his family, like its their fault he's dead. but after the last comment about them delaying his career from 1977-1985 i think its time for me to quit.im going to the janet thread

Poor family. This family is not dysfunctional. They are all saints but Michael...

Poor them.

If you only knew this family's true colours. Yet you refuse to believe that Janet, your idol and almighty God, had a crappy, greedy and (how could I forget?) nasty family.
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i have one almighty god and he's not a pop music star. my idol? yes i am a big janet fan but im too old for idols. if janet needed to take propofol to sleep at nite would i consider her an addict, hell yes.
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Reply #224 posted 11/20/09 6:49pm

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mushy
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Reply #225 posted 11/20/09 7:02pm

Timmy84

There that's better. lol
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Reply #226 posted 11/20/09 7:09pm

mookie

Tweets from Kenny Ortega:

HEADS UP, Don't forget! MJ AMAs SUNDAY NIGHT on ABC . Be there to root for the KING! with the L.O.V.E. TOY from a beautiful Fall day in LA
about 6 hours ago from web

I had a fun day. I visited with great friends, saw an awesome rehearsal for the AMAs and watched the LAKERS play the BULLS at Staples TOY
about 20 hours ago from web
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Reply #227 posted 11/20/09 7:15pm

murph

seeingvoices12 said:

Bboy..leak this, I know you have the full version..... confused



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Very dope....
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Reply #228 posted 11/20/09 7:19pm

mookie

HITS

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Reply #229 posted 11/20/09 7:19pm

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babybugz said:


lol *waits*

Teresa Gonsalves' book about Michael
Chris Brown supposedly planning to play Michael in a TV movie lol
JRT updating Magic and The Madness AGAIN for next year
Waxpoetics' issue dedicated to Michael
the Motown albums

Chris Brown supposedly planning to play Michael in a TV movie that's not funny ,smh

JRT updating Magic and The Madness AGAIN for next year For What confused
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Reply #230 posted 11/20/09 7:42pm

EmeraldSkies

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mimi07 said:

Identity said:


i'm gonna cry, i can't wait to get this. i'll have to burn niccas hands off who touch this without gloves on lol


Speaking of gloves,I wonder if it comes with those white gloves that they show laying on the book toward the end. hmmm
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Reply #231 posted 11/20/09 7:43pm

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mushy


drool
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Reply #232 posted 11/20/09 8:06pm

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EmeraldSkies said:

mimi07 said:


i'm gonna cry, i can't wait to get this. i'll have to burn niccas hands off who touch this without gloves on lol


Speaking of gloves,I wonder if it comes with those white gloves that they show laying on the book toward the end. hmmm
[Edited 11/20/09 19:46pm]


i think so

don't forget to VOTE for michael for the AMA's people!
[Edited 11/20/09 20:39pm]
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Reply #233 posted 11/20/09 8:18pm

murph

Since we are all now in a giving mood (that bootleg MJ joint A-Dog posted was dope...It's cool to hear MJ do different shit...), here's a montage video of MJ, James Brown and Prince doing some of their best moves....I know some of you hardcore Mike fans have probably seen this joint before...It's worth another look..Check it out....

http://www.youtube.com/wa...jBj0-KoT2Q
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Reply #234 posted 11/20/09 10:18pm

EmeraldSkies

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mimi07 said:

EmeraldSkies said:



Speaking of gloves,I wonder if it comes with those white gloves that they show laying on the book toward the end. hmmm
[Edited 11/20/09 19:46pm]


i think so

don't forget to VOTE for michael for the AMA's people!
[Edited 11/20/09 20:39pm]


Voting has been closed for the AMA's.
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Reply #235 posted 11/20/09 10:29pm

mimi07

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mimi07 said:



i think so

don't forget to VOTE for michael for the AMA's people!
[Edited 11/20/09 20:39pm]


Voting has been closed for the AMA's.


oh lol when did it end?
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Reply #236 posted 11/20/09 10:58pm

EmeraldSkies

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EmeraldSkies said:



Voting has been closed for the AMA's.


oh lol when did it end?


shrug I went to vote again,and saw this
http://abc.go.com/shows/a...ing-closed

I really hope Michael wins all 5. nod
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Reply #237 posted 11/20/09 11:01pm

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Here's what happened in Amazon.com and iTunes after the interview with Janet:

Number Ones (Janet Jackson)- Up
This Is It (Michael Jackson)- Down


There's a reason as to why Michael prefered having Diana Ross raising his kids to having his own siblings doing so.


Thank god someone else is seeing it.
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Reply #238 posted 11/20/09 11:05pm

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MOL said:

Here's what happened in Amazon.com and iTunes after the interview with Janet:

Number Ones (Janet Jackson)- Up
This Is It (Michael Jackson)- Down


There's a reason as to why Michael prefered having Diana Ross raising his kids to having his own siblings doing so.


Thank god someone else is seeing it.


get over it, those kids weren't ever gonna go with diana. they'll be raised with their family, the jacksons
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Reply #239 posted 11/20/09 11:06pm

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mimi07 said:



oh lol when did it end?


shrug I went to vote again,and saw this
http://abc.go.com/shows/a...ing-closed

I really hope Michael wins all 5. nod


i hope he does also, he deserves it but i don't really care that much cause he's not here to accept it
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