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Reply #420 posted 11/25/09 6:20pm

Timmy84

Superstition said:

Now, I fully believe that the 1993 (and 2003) allegations were a load of bunk that spread like truth because of shite media reporting, but Jermain's reasoning is also bunk.

However, Jermaine gets a pass because the media spread enough misinformation about MJ, so there should be no problem with the shoe being on the other foot.


You know? sigh smh
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Reply #421 posted 11/25/09 6:51pm

MOL

Timmy84 said:

Jermaine: Suicide Proves MJ Didn't Molest

Posted Nov 25th 2009 6:52PM by TMZ Staff

Jermaine Jackson came out swinging at an event at the Magic Johnson theater in L.A. yesterday, claiming the 1993 molestation accusations against his brother were false ... and the suicide of the accuser's dad proves it.



Jermaine -- who spoke at a Michael Jackson charity event -- said the accuser's dad could not live with a guilty conscience and that's why he killed himself. Jermaine also latched onto Internet rumors that the accuser himself said Jackson didn't touch him.

Michael Jackson settled the '93 case by anteing up $20 million.

FYI -- the MJ stuff happens around 2:15 into the clip.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/1...z0XvV063Lu

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Sorry for bringing this in here but this was because luv shut one of the Jackson threads down lol

Still hate TMZ tho.

Despite everything, Jermaine is doing everything he can for his brother. He changed a lot. I'm actually starting to like him.
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Reply #422 posted 11/25/09 6:58pm

Arnotts

Michaels death would not bring guilt to the accusers father. To even do something like that in the first place shows what a sociopath he was, so I dont believe for one second he killed himself because he felt guilty about what he did. I think its just coincidence timing.
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Reply #423 posted 11/25/09 7:33pm

mimi07

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mimi07 said:


[Edited 11/25/09 9:52am]

Finally a large version of this picture!


i forgot who the lady is confused
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #424 posted 11/25/09 7:51pm

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Are Joe & Katherine gonna be in the reality series or its just the brothers minus Randall?
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Reply #425 posted 11/25/09 8:11pm

Timmy84

mimi07 said:

bboy87 said:


Finally a large version of this picture!


i forgot who the lady is confused


Jackie Kennedy smile
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Reply #426 posted 11/25/09 9:36pm

mookie

MOL said:[quote]

Timmy84 said:

Jermaine: Suicide Proves MJ Didn't Molest

Despite everything, Jermaine is doing everything he can for his brother. He changed a lot. I'm actually starting to like him.



Yeah, overall I don't think he's a bad guy. Between him and Randy, Randy is the one i'm most creeped out by.
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Reply #427 posted 11/25/09 9:37pm

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eek
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Reply #428 posted 11/25/09 10:05pm

Arnotts

mookie said:[quote]

MOL said:

Timmy84 said:

Jermaine: Suicide Proves MJ Didn't Molest

Despite everything, Jermaine is doing everything he can for his brother. He changed a lot. I'm actually starting to like him.



Yeah, overall I don't think he's a bad guy. Between him and Randy, Randy is the one i'm most creeped out by.

Why Randy? I like Randy much more then Jermaine. Whats Randy done worse?
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Reply #429 posted 11/25/09 10:06pm

Timmy84

This may be the first time I'm defending the other Jacksons but leave both Grease Man and Randy alone. lol
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Reply #430 posted 11/25/09 10:11pm

Arnotts

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eek

Hahaha. love it!
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Reply #431 posted 11/25/09 10:58pm

Swa

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Arnotts said:

EmeraldSkies said:



eek

Hahaha. love it!


Correct me if I am wrong - but aren't the AMA's based on sales - thus what gave MJ the nods in the first place. I also think that Taylor's album outsold MJ's number one's this year so I don't see what the fuss is about.

As you all know I am a MJ fan, but I did think it was pushing the realms of reality to have him nominated - I understand the sales of Number Ones made him in the running and that is why he won the awards, but if sales are what got him nominated and what won him the awards, then I think it's unfair that people moan that he lost out to TS if she in fact outsold him.

What I found more interesting in the AMAs was that there wasn't an In Memory section which honours the musicians and producers that have past. I thought a nod to MJ on the night this way would have been more fitting.

Thoughts?

Swa
"I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love"
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Reply #432 posted 11/25/09 11:05pm

Arnotts

Swa said:

Arnotts said:


Hahaha. love it!


Correct me if I am wrong - but aren't the AMA's based on sales - thus what gave MJ the nods in the first place. I also think that Taylor's album outsold MJ's number one's this year so I don't see what the fuss is about.

As you all know I am a MJ fan, but I did think it was pushing the realms of reality to have him nominated - I understand the sales of Number Ones made him in the running and that is why he won the awards, but if sales are what got him nominated and what won him the awards, then I think it's unfair that people moan that he lost out to TS if she in fact outsold him.

What I found more interesting in the AMAs was that there wasn't an In Memory section which honours the musicians and producers that have past. I thought a nod to MJ on the night this way would have been more fitting.

Thoughts?

Swa

Didn't Michael sell 6 million records this year? Or am I wrong about that? I dont even know where I got that figure from but I'm pretty sure I read it somewhere. If he did, did Taylor Swift really sell more then that? I havent heard of artists selling that much these days
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Reply #433 posted 11/25/09 11:06pm

EmeraldSkies

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Swa said:

Arnotts said:


Hahaha. love it!


Correct me if I am wrong - but aren't the AMA's based on sales - thus what gave MJ the nods in the first place. I also think that Taylor's album outsold MJ's number one's this year so I don't see what the fuss is about.

As you all know I am a MJ fan, but I did think it was pushing the realms of reality to have him nominated - I understand the sales of Number Ones made him in the running and that is why he won the awards, but if sales are what got him nominated and what won him the awards, then I think it's unfair that people moan that he lost out to TS if she in fact outsold him.

What I found more interesting in the AMAs was that there wasn't an In Memory section which honours the musicians and producers that have past. I thought a nod to MJ on the night this way would have been more fitting.

Thoughts?

Swa


I understood his frustration,but I did'nt see why he got so angry with TS. She was not in charge of who,and who did not receive the awards,and when she won,she did pay her respects,and thanked Michael's family.
Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach
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Reply #434 posted 11/25/09 11:36pm

Swa

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Arnotts said:

Swa said:



Correct me if I am wrong - but aren't the AMA's based on sales - thus what gave MJ the nods in the first place. I also think that Taylor's album outsold MJ's number one's this year so I don't see what the fuss is about.

As you all know I am a MJ fan, but I did think it was pushing the realms of reality to have him nominated - I understand the sales of Number Ones made him in the running and that is why he won the awards, but if sales are what got him nominated and what won him the awards, then I think it's unfair that people moan that he lost out to TS if she in fact outsold him.

What I found more interesting in the AMAs was that there wasn't an In Memory section which honours the musicians and producers that have past. I thought a nod to MJ on the night this way would have been more fitting.

Thoughts?

Swa

Didn't Michael sell 6 million records this year? Or am I wrong about that? I dont even know where I got that figure from but I'm pretty sure I read it somewhere. If he did, did Taylor Swift really sell more then that? I havent heard of artists selling that much these days



I thought I read somewhere recently that at the time of the voting Taylor Swifts Fearless had sold more copies than Michael's Number Ones (in the States). Which would make her the winner by right. I guess in this unusual situation they had to compare the sales of one record against the sales of another - and not that of an entire back catalogue.

The following is taken from Billboard: "Michael Jackson's "Number Ones" collection becomes the year's second-best-selling album. As the 2003 set moves another 114,000 this week—and retains the No. 1 spot on Top Comprehensive Albums—its total for the year adds up to 1.37 million. That moves it past the "Hannah Montana: The Movie" soundtrack (1.33 million) and Eminem's "Relapse" (1.31 million). Now, only Taylor Swift's "Fearless" (with nearly 1.5 million) stands in Jackson's way.

Swa
"I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love"
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Reply #435 posted 11/26/09 1:11am

mimi07

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Timmy84 said:

mimi07 said:



i forgot who the lady is confused


Jackie Kennedy smile


there u go, thanks
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Reply #436 posted 11/26/09 5:50am

Arnotts

Swa said:

Arnotts said:


Didn't Michael sell 6 million records this year? Or am I wrong about that? I dont even know where I got that figure from but I'm pretty sure I read it somewhere. If he did, did Taylor Swift really sell more then that? I havent heard of artists selling that much these days



I thought I read somewhere recently that at the time of the voting Taylor Swifts Fearless had sold more copies than Michael's Number Ones (in the States). Which would make her the winner by right. I guess in this unusual situation they had to compare the sales of one record against the sales of another - and not that of an entire back catalogue.

The following is taken from Billboard: "Michael Jackson's "Number Ones" collection becomes the year's second-best-selling album. As the 2003 set moves another 114,000 this week—and retains the No. 1 spot on Top Comprehensive Albums—its total for the year adds up to 1.37 million. That moves it past the "Hannah Montana: The Movie" soundtrack (1.33 million) and Eminem's "Relapse" (1.31 million). Now, only Taylor Swift's "Fearless" (with nearly 1.5 million) stands in Jackson's way.

Swa

Oh ok I see how it works. Yes I guess it would be unfair to compare Michaels total album sales to the others individual cds. But does anyone know if you compare Michaels total cd sales to everybody elses total cd sales, is he the highest selling artist of this year?
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Reply #437 posted 11/26/09 7:50am

Timmy84

Swa said:

Arnotts said:


Didn't Michael sell 6 million records this year? Or am I wrong about that? I dont even know where I got that figure from but I'm pretty sure I read it somewhere. If he did, did Taylor Swift really sell more then that? I havent heard of artists selling that much these days



I thought I read somewhere recently that at the time of the voting Taylor Swifts Fearless had sold more copies than Michael's Number Ones (in the States). Which would make her the winner by right. I guess in this unusual situation they had to compare the sales of one record against the sales of another - and not that of an entire back catalogue.

The following is taken from Billboard: "Michael Jackson's "Number Ones" collection becomes the year's second-best-selling album. As the 2003 set moves another 114,000 this week—and retains the No. 1 spot on Top Comprehensive Albums—its total for the year adds up to 1.37 million. That moves it past the "Hannah Montana: The Movie" soundtrack (1.33 million) and Eminem's "Relapse" (1.31 million). Now, only Taylor Swift's "Fearless" (with nearly 1.5 million) stands in Jackson's way.

Swa


That's why I didn't bitch about Taylor winning lol
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Reply #438 posted 11/26/09 7:51am

Timmy84

Arnotts said:

Swa said:




I thought I read somewhere recently that at the time of the voting Taylor Swifts Fearless had sold more copies than Michael's Number Ones (in the States). Which would make her the winner by right. I guess in this unusual situation they had to compare the sales of one record against the sales of another - and not that of an entire back catalogue.

The following is taken from Billboard: "Michael Jackson's "Number Ones" collection becomes the year's second-best-selling album. As the 2003 set moves another 114,000 this week—and retains the No. 1 spot on Top Comprehensive Albums—its total for the year adds up to 1.37 million. That moves it past the "Hannah Montana: The Movie" soundtrack (1.33 million) and Eminem's "Relapse" (1.31 million). Now, only Taylor Swift's "Fearless" (with nearly 1.5 million) stands in Jackson's way.

Swa

Oh ok I see how it works. Yes I guess it would be unfair to compare Michaels total album sales to the others individual cds. But does anyone know if you compare Michaels total cd sales to everybody elses total cd sales, is he the highest selling artist of this year?


Technically no, he's the highest-selling male artist of the year I think tho.
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Reply #439 posted 11/26/09 9:53am

SoulAlive

Timmy84 said:

Jermaine: Suicide Proves MJ Didn't Molest

Posted Nov 25th 2009 6:52PM by TMZ Staff

Jermaine Jackson came out swinging at an event at the Magic Johnson theater in L.A. yesterday, claiming the 1993 molestation accusations against his brother were false ... and the suicide of the accuser's dad proves it.



Jermaine -- who spoke at a Michael Jackson charity event -- said the accuser's dad could not live with a guilty conscience and that's why he killed himself. Jermaine also latched onto Internet rumors that the accuser himself said Jackson didn't touch him.

Michael Jackson settled the '93 case by anteing up $20 million.

FYI -- the MJ stuff happens around 2:15 into the clip.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/1...z0XvV063Lu

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Sorry for bringing this in here but this was because luv shut one of the Jackson threads down lol

Still hate TMZ tho.



hmmm I agree with what Jermaine is saying
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Reply #440 posted 11/26/09 9:54am

SoulAlive

Arnotts said:

Michaels death would not bring guilt to the accusers father. To even do something like that in the first place shows what a sociopath he was, so I dont believe for one second he killed himself because he felt guilty about what he did. I think its just coincidence timing.


hmmm Either way,his sudden suicide looks kinda suspicious and raises alot of questions.
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Reply #441 posted 11/26/09 10:02am

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Whatta man! love
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #442 posted 11/26/09 10:15am

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SoulAlive said:

Arnotts said:

Michaels death would not bring guilt to the accusers father. To even do something like that in the first place shows what a sociopath he was, so I dont believe for one second he killed himself because he felt guilty about what he did. I think its just coincidence timing.


hmmm Either way,his sudden suicide looks kinda suspicious and raises alot of questions.


Co-Sign with SoulAlive 100%
I'd say RIP Evan Chandler but I couldn't care less.
If he did make the whole thing up, I hope Satan is giving
it to him good. He deserves to suffer if he and his
twisted son made it up. As it stands now, I have no
sympathy for any of the Chandlers. Frauds.
MJ Fan 1992-Forever

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Reply #443 posted 11/26/09 10:25am

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"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #444 posted 11/26/09 10:55am

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dag said:


Whatta man! love


eek

drool
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Reply #445 posted 11/26/09 10:56am

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mimi07 said:



I love that smile. Melts razz
Lay back in my tenderness... Stay with me... Don't you go nowhere...
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Reply #446 posted 11/26/09 11:02am

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SoulAlive said:

Arnotts said:

Michaels death would not bring guilt to the accusers father. To even do something like that in the first place shows what a sociopath he was, so I dont believe for one second he killed himself because he felt guilty about what he did. I think its just coincidence timing.


hmmm Either way,his sudden suicide looks kinda suspicious and raises alot of questions.
Agree, you would have thought Evan Chandler would be relife at the death of MJ, not wanting to put a bullet in his head.

I know he was ill, but he was very ill well before MJ died. Dying some months after MJ is just a coincident, but it's the suicide that raises eyebrows, even if you truely believe MJ molested his son, you would ask yourself why committe suicide now.

Having said that Jermaine should watch what he says in public, unless he doesn't mind a lawsuite coming his way.
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Reply #447 posted 11/26/09 11:07am

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Having said that Jermaine should watch what he says in public, unless he doesn't mind a lawsuite coming his way.


Who would file one? The looney tune who would killed himself.
Jordy is too much of a liar (probably) and a coward to do anything.
If he had anything worth saying, he would have came forward with some
guts in 2005. Instead, he just took his money and ran. Family of frauds.
I suppose the apple didn't fall too far from the tree.

The only lawsuit Greasy Jermaine is going to get is from WD40 telling him to
stop slandering their product by applying too much to his greasy face. Oh yeah
and he will get a lawsuit from fans of Michael's and Janet's if he pushes Janet
into making an awful Jackson 5 album in Iran or wherever the hell he wants to
produce that garbage.
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Reply #448 posted 11/26/09 12:01pm

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‎"The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page
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Reply #449 posted 11/26/09 12:57pm

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Mike looks chubby here. BTW who´s the guy in the middle?
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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