alphastreet said:

You hear the old-school MPLS in it, too, eh?

I'm not bringing it up as a criticism, BTW. Just a personal observation.

It's definitely Minneapolis Sound-esque, that's why I like it. I could care less of the sample when I hear it. It's great!

Timmy84 said:

What is that sample? I thought maybe "Sexy Dancer," but that's not it.

Lammastide said:

yeah I really do, a cross between that and off the wall mj

Lammastide said:

you mean there is a sample?

more shallow plastic

alphastreet said:

I don't think there's a sample. Oddly, there are fewer songs of Janet's that have samples, than those that don't. Stuff like "Miss You Much", "Love Will Never Do With You", "I Get Lonely", "Come Back To Me", "Again", "Control", "Nasty", "What Have You Done For Me Lately?", "Runaway", etc have no samples. The songs that do, most of those don't rely on the sample. Stuff like "That's The Way Love Goes", "Son Of A Gun", and "You Want This" and "If" don't rely on the sample, but do highlight it, whereas "Rhythm Nation", "Someone To Call My Lover" and "All For You" depend more heavily on the sample for the sake of the song. She's certainly not a Will Smith or a Beyonce, who almost solely relies on a sample to carry a song (like Bootylicious, Men In Black, Crazy In Love, Deja Vu, Wild Wild West, Miami, Gettin' Jiggy Wit It).

"Feedback" was one of those songs that sounded like it had a sample in it, but it didn't. I think it's more about Jerkins' production. It has that heavy R&B/synth sound that almost makes you think it's a sample, but it's not. Examples: Justin's "Rock Your Body" (a Neptunes song), and MJ's "You Rock My World".

midiscover said:

fixed it for you

ernestsewell said:

yet you post negative comments about Prince's latest offerings, yet you acytually like this generic track -

80spfantwp said:

I'm not sure how loving a Janet song compares to saying something honest about Prince's music in the past few years.

If you care to judge me based on what I say only on Prince.org, then so be it. But I have over 21,000 songs in my iTunes, and hundreds of CDs, LPs, etc. That being said: I love all kinds of music, and I love lots of music.

"Make Me" is a straight ahead dance track, nothing else. She's not trying to preach about jehovah, the New Translation, or stupidly sidestepping a curse word in a song when the implication is there. It's just a one-off track for a Greatest Hits compilation. Same goes for "Celebration" and "Revolver" from Madonna.

ernestsewell said:

Yeah good point. I don't really think Rodney Jerkins was a fan of sampling anyways, so more power to him.

alphastreet said:

Yeah, I'm not sure of his stance on sampling, but it's a bit refreshing that he doesn't do it, if at all. People really bash Jerkins and his production, but the fact is he's put out a string of hits from Janet to Whitney to MJ, and beyond. Frankly, I'd take his stuff over The Neptunes any day of the week. He's not THE end all and be all of production, but he's more desirable than The Neptunes, and a few others.

ernestsewell said:

Yeah, I especially love his work on Brandy's albums, especially Full Moon, and the hits he was producing in the earlier part of the decade. It's like he changes his sound every few years, so he's cool in my book.

News flash! This is a 1982 CHIC track called "I Work For A Livin'". Producer extraordinaire Jerkins and Ms. Jackson simply sped it up, added some drum programming and sound effects. The original:

therevolutionwillnotbe said:

Based on the "Soup For One" album, let's not forget this:


was used as a sample in this:

therevolutionwillnotbe said:

Yea, we know

midiscover said:

Are you speaking for the whole class now, midi?

The video looks okay. I like the song too
but i damn sure ain't buying another greatest hits
cd just to get one new song. I can live with listening
to it online.

Identity said:

I dig it...Old school JJ groove....Very R&B...Don't know how anyone who is/was a Janet Jackson fan could hate this song...Will wait to judge the video when its finished....

murph said:

Radio won't touch this song for some reason. I've requested it on several formats and pds won't give it the time of day. It's the same type of dance style that Britney or Gaga are doing, but pop radio won't play it. I just don't get it.

daPrettyman said:

midiscover said:

I don't even think this is the reason anymore. I really think that pop radio is not ready for a 40+ year old singing dance music. Madonna is running into the same issues. "Celebration" didn't get pop radio airplay either.

daPrettyman said:

perhaps they should take a hint and start making some mature music
for a change.

not that radio would play that, since, well, they're over 40. they
don't play anyone over a certain age i guess.

but at least these 'old' artists could stop trying to be hip and
trendy and just go back to doing what they did best before they
became obsessed with being considered 'young' and 'happening'.
instead of all that they could just be themselves again and thus
actually being relevant and authentic and genius.

it's almost the same thing with prince. they want to be treated
like mature, serious artists, treated with the respect they all
deserve, yada yada yada.

yet, they're pissing away their own carreers by trying desperate
to stay 'relevant' an catering to 16 yr old instead of the people
who grew up with them and their music.

i can understand you'd want to make a fun, dance record or what
ever you'd fancy but come on, janet and madonna have been doing
the same damn routine for so long now that it's beyond boring.

why are they so affraid to just calm the fuck down and write an
album's worth of well crafted, melodic, classic sounding songs.
with an actual band. with lyrics that fit the mindset and wisdom
of their age.

i can't see any of their fans saying no to that.

daPrettyman said:

No, it's that.

IstenSzek said:

I can't stand Madonna's Celebration, very disappointed in that song. I don't think Make Me is Janet's best either, but it's not her worst either. I remember that her record label wanted her to sound like Sade and she wasn't having it. Though I like how Discipline turned out, I would have loved to hear janet go for a jazzier, mature sound cause she has the lush, melodic vocals for that IMO, and Velvet Rope was definitely a mature record on her part.

alphastreet said:

that is still her best album imo, although, fcuz, that's all just personal
taste. it sounds deeper, more daring and more intimate. i don't like any of
the albums that came after it even 10% as much as i love velvet rope.

Yeah I really love that album too. Even though I love All For You, it was a grand departure from how she evolved on Velvet Rope. The rest of the albums had some good songs and some not so great.

midiscover said:

why post that ISH people need to get over that, it was OVER 5 years ago and it was an accident. u'd think janet's boob was a nuclear threat.

who listens's to the radio anymore these days anyways. i only listen to it when i use the bathroom at my mother's house.

and f**k YOU justin, u punk bitch
[Edited 11/18/09 13:51pm]

Identity said:

This vid looks like it's gonna be fire!