daPrettyman said:

Im not even talking about music lol. But even if I were, I'd still take Kanye. His albums are very good imo.

Timmy84 said:

ju buggin', of course I was not watching the country music awards
I'm just covering the news, getting folk all excited LOL

BlaqueKnight said:

No, I don't see it as a diss. I see it as a parody. The only way I would take it personally would be if it was a personal attack. That wasn't a personal attack. It was just saying to teach your children manners, tactfulness and respect for others....something Kanye doesn't seem to have much of.

Let's see how this is played in the media

Judd Slams Swift's CMA Win




At last night's CMA Awards show, host Brad Paisley likened the country community to one big family--"George Strait plus eight," he joked.
And, truth be told, he's not too far off the mark. Nashville is an insular and protective community--sure, it's full of gossip and pettiness and all the other things you find in any tight-knit group. But, as Paisley humorously noted, most of the time everyone gets along pretty well.
Most of the time.

What's up now, you ask? Well, country legend Wynonna Judd (a presenter at last night's show) has declared that Taylor Swift--who won the CMA's top honor, Entertainer of the Year--is nowhere near ready for so much success.

The country legend, one-half of famed mother-daughter duo the Judds, spoke to USA Today before the awards show, commenting in regards to Swift's extraordinary sweep of 2009: "You want my honest comment? It’s too much too soon."
"Mom [Naomi Judd] and I rode in a car for the first year of our career to visit radio stations," Judd continued. "There was a making of the star, there was a rising up, and the fans went with us.

"Now it’s over coffee breaks, the success, almost. It's like the girl who wins an Oscar and she's under 20. What do you do from here?"
Well, well. Truth be told, many music fans out there--rightly or wrongly--are saying basically the same thing. However, this sort of commentary tends to not go over very well in the country world.

Remember back in 2006, when Faith Hill gasped a theatrical "WHAT?" on camera in response to Carrie Underwood's CMA Female Vocalist of the Year win? Hill claimed to be just joking around, but the validity of her humor came under scrutiny and the incident made out-of-proportion national waves. (It blew through the roof on Yahoo!'s Buzz Index, which tracks hotly searched stories on the web--and even national broadcaster Don Imus talked about it on his show.)
Carrie Underwood, now Taylor Swift.

For what it's worth, Hill presented Swift with her Entertainer of the Year award, and did so most graciously. (Swift, who has cited Hill as her childhood idol, was incandescent at the moment.)

Also, just as an aside--what is it with the Judds and rising young talent? Naomi Judd recently put twin-sister duo Kate & Kacey (who, incidentally, are on Swift's record label) through the wringer during their stint on CMT's reality series Can You Duet. According to the twins, Judd, a judge on the program, was so hard on the pair that they ended up writing a song about the incident titled "You're Not My Judge."

Kacey Coppola termed the experience with Naomi to be "disappointing."
"Kate and I have looked up to the Judds for as long as I can remember," she told Yahoo! Music.

No need for the sour grapes, Judds. If anyone's proven their mettle in the entertainment industry, and can afford to be benevolent to the newcomers--it's you guys.

And, take a lesson from Faith Hill (and, hey, George Jones--who got skewered last week for his comments about "new country"). Watch it.
There's no problem with stating an honest opinion, but like I said, this sort of thing just tends not to float too smoothly with the country fans at large.
[Edited 11/12/09 11:27am]

banks said:

She wasn't drunk, wasn't onstage to interrupt things and she told the press what she felt, it's only going to upset country fans, not us. lol

Timmy84 said:

You sure ??? she looks like she was hitting the bottle in that pic

daPrettyman said:

Call it what you want but if the subject of said parody is disrespected then its a diss. Maybe you don't fully understand the concept of a diss or you are simply allowing an exception because it was Kanye?
People are really pissed because Kanye interrupted a white girl. correction: white people are pissed that Kanye interrupted their pretty little white barbie doll-looking idol. I'm calling it like it is. If it had been Mary J. Blige, no one aside from a few people would have given a damn.
The shit is what it is and I call it like I see it.
Was he wrong? Yes. Does it merit the kind of outrage he's gotten for it? Nope. This country is becoming more and more racially polarized.
[Edited 11/12/09 11:32am]

daPrettyman said:

Call it what you want but if the subject of said parody is disrespected then its a diss. Maybe you don't fully understand the concept of a diss or you are simply allowing an exception because it was Kanye?
People are really pissed because Kanye interrupted a white girl. correction: white people are pissed that Kanye interrupted their pretty little white barbie doll-looking idol. I'm calling it like it is. If it had been Mary J. Blige, no one aside from a few people would have given a damn.
The shit is what it is and I call it like I see it.
Was he wrong? Yes. Does it merit the kind of outrage he's gotten for it? Nope. This country is becoming more and more racially polarized.
[Edited 11/12/09 11:32am]

Shit hop vs. Country.....battle of the dullest. I hope they continue fighting because it's the only entertaining thing coming from both genres of music. And I hope it does turn racial (whether it is or isn't) and that the white kids don't agree that it's racial, get pissed, stop buying shit hop in retaliation, and shit hop can either die or go back underground and hopefully something good can come in and get R&B out of the nursing homes and back onto the dancefloors. It'll never happen but a motherfucker can dream though.

Shit hop vs. Country.....battle of the dullest. I hope they continue fighting because it's the only entertaining thing coming from both genres of music. And I hope it does turn racial (whether it is or isn't) and that the white kids don't agree that it's racial, get pissed, stop buying shit hop in retaliation, and shit hop can either die or go back underground and hopefully something good can come in and get R&B out of the nursing homes and back onto the dancefloors. It'll never happen but a motherfucker can dream though.

BlaqueKnight said:

Not to offend anyone but i have to agree. That same MASS of people
don't raise the same stink when Rush Limbaugh makes racially
motivated comments.
[Edited 11/12/09 11:45am]

BklynBabe said:

He pulls this shit all the time. When the VMA's were in Vegas a couple of years ago, he had his moment in the spotlight, and performed in a hotel where they had a party going on during the show. They bounced between the awards, and this crazy penthouse suite with performers doing their thing. Lots of action. He performed as well, THEN when he didn't win he was seen, taped, and quoted backstage talking about how he's NEVER returning to MTV, how he's the best thing to happen to music in forever, how he's the savior of music, how he's the end all and be all of music, how he's the voice of the people, etc etc.....same shit we've heard over and over. He accused MTV of being racist, ignoring his brilliance (reminding us of Paula Abdul saying the same thing on her show when she said "They need to realize and treat me like the treasure I am.") Yet, lo and behold, he's back again and again on MTV, submitting videos to them for airplay, appearing at award shows, and then bogarting someone else's time. He's a total fucking loon, he's NOT the voice of the people, he's NOT the savior of music, or even of shit-hop, and he might be damn near insane.

don't know about the paula thing but I saw the rest

daPrettyman said:

Call it what you want but if the subject of said parody is disrespected then its a diss. Maybe you don't fully understand the concept of a diss or you are simply allowing an exception because it was Kanye?
People are really pissed because Kanye interrupted a white girl. correction: white people are pissed that Kanye interrupted their pretty little white barbie doll-looking idol. I'm calling it like it is. If it had been Mary J. Blige, no one aside from a few people would have given a damn.
The shit is what it is and I call it like I see it.
Was he wrong? Yes. Does it merit the kind of outrage he's gotten for it? Nope. This country is becoming more and more racially polarized.
[Edited 11/12/09 11:32am]

Shit hop vs. Country.....battle of the dullest. I hope they continue fighting because it's the only entertaining thing coming from both genres of music. And I hope it does turn racial (whether it is or isn't) and that the white kids don't agree that it's racial, get pissed, stop buying shit hop in retaliation, and shit hop can either die or go back underground and hopefully something good can come in and get R&B out of the nursing homes and back onto the dancefloors. It'll never happen but a motherfucker can dream though.

BlaqueKnight said:

Not to offend anyone but i have to agree. That same MASS of people
don't raise the same stink when Rush Limbaugh makes racially
motivated comments.
[Edited 11/12/09 11:45am]

phunkdaddy said:

I don't know if too many people saw it, but the Kanye backlash took a ugly racial turn too. You should have seen a lot of those twitter comments. The 'N' word was thrown around so much it would've made you cry. Strangely enough, people weren't nearly as upset with Joe Wilson interupting President O.
[Edited 11/12/09 13:39pm]

daPrettyman said:

Well Kanye has never pulled this on another artist that hasnt been white, the times he has jumped up or bitched or cried its always the white redneck that has won. I never him he bitch or jump on stage when Lil Wayne or Jay Z beats him. I understand his opinion is that he sells more (which isnt true anyway) so he should win, and that he is better than everyone because he is doing things different (another lie) he is a follower not a leader. So he just seems to pick his battles and incidents when he knows he wont get beat down for it.

lastdecember said:

I agree with you that Kanye does seem to pick his battles because he's not going to fuck with certain people. Like I posted in the VMA thread right after the incident, had P!nk have one that award instead of Taylor, I doubt Kanye would have had the balls to jump up on that stage and say that shit because P!nk would have slapped those stupid shades right off his face in front of everyone. Kanye likes to battle those who won't fight him back, which makes him a pussy in my opinion.

estelle81 said:

Bullshit... If Pink would won Kanye would have done the samething, only diffrence is Pink wouldn't have stood there and took that shit..

is this shit still going on?

anyway, remember when Kanye had his fit over losing out on best video at the EMA's years back?

Well, on that occasion he lost to the band "Justice" who had this video.
He had never heard of Justice, but was intrigued.



So what did Kanye do?

He went and got the maker of the video to do his own, and we got this classic.



so you see, sometimes kanye's hissy fits can have a good outcome.
[Edited 11/12/09 17:42pm]

daPrettyman said:

Call it what you want but if the subject of said parody is disrespected then its a diss. Maybe you don't fully understand the concept of a diss or you are simply allowing an exception because it was Kanye?
People are really pissed because Kanye interrupted a white girl. correction: white people are pissed that Kanye interrupted their pretty little white barbie doll-looking idol. I'm calling it like it is. If it had been Mary J. Blige, no one aside from a few people would have given a damn.
The shit is what it is and I call it like I see it.
Was he wrong? Yes. Does it merit the kind of outrage he's gotten for it? Nope. This country is becoming more and more racially polarized.
[Edited 11/12/09 11:32am]

daPrettyman said:

Well Kanye has never pulled this on another artist that hasnt been white, the times he has jumped up or bitched or cried its always the white redneck that has won. I never him he bitch or jump on stage when Lil Wayne or Jay Z beats him. I understand his opinion is that he sells more (which isnt true anyway) so he should win, and that he is better than everyone because he is doing things different (another lie) he is a follower not a leader. So he just seems to pick his battles and incidents when he knows he wont get beat down for it.