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PrintableJackieBlue said: lastdecember said: Well i agree on that, but that is not her call, if your doing an indie cd then you are the boss. That call was made by Mr.Reid straight out, you know the guy that everyone pats on the back on this forum for bringing MIMI out again. To me "off topic" there are no GREAT ALBUMS anymore from anyone for the most part, ESPECIALLY in rb beccause of this dumb-ass idea that just because u can get 80 minutes on a disc U HAVE TO, that im sorry has been RB's and Hip hops POISON, that trend still isnt dieing. Her call or not, it stunts the album IMO. I personally have never liked L.A. Reid and think he's part of the problem. While live instrumentation is very refreshing in R&B these days I don't think it's inclusion means an album is automatically superior. Still, I'm not crazy about it I think overall In Love & War is a solid album but that's just my opinion. [Edited 11/13/09 6:02am] "Heard 'Em All" and "Pretty Brown Eyes" defeats the purpose of an "all-live instrument-featuring" album. Plus do I have to mention she's with Def Scam? Strike one, strike two, strike three you're out Amerie!  | |
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JackieBlue said: lastdecember said: Well i agree on that, but that is not her call, if your doing an indie cd then you are the boss. That call was made by Mr.Reid straight out, you know the guy that everyone pats on the back on this forum for bringing MIMI out again. To me "off topic" there are no GREAT ALBUMS anymore from anyone for the most part, ESPECIALLY in rb beccause of this dumb-ass idea that just because u can get 80 minutes on a disc U HAVE TO, that im sorry has been RB's and Hip hops POISON, that trend still isnt dieing. Her call or not, it stunts the album IMO. I personally have never liked L.A. Reid and think he's part of the problem. While live instrumentation is very refreshing in R&B these days I don't think it's inclusion means an album is automatically superior. Still, I'm not crazy about it I think overall In Love & War is a solid album but that's just my opinion. [Edited 11/13/09 6:02am] Also the bits of live instrumentation that you may hear on this album is pointless if you are gonna go out and do track shows live anyway. Don't laugh at my funk
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phunkdaddy said: JackieBlue said: Her call or not, it stunts the album IMO. I personally have never liked L.A. Reid and think he's part of the problem. While live instrumentation is very refreshing in R&B these days I don't think it's inclusion means an album is automatically superior. Still, I'm not crazy about it I think overall In Love & War is a solid album but that's just my opinion. [Edited 11/13/09 6:02am] Also the bits of live instrumentation that you may hear on this album is pointless if you are gonna go out and do track shows live anyway. Sounds like half the record has samples anyway. | |
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errant said: is she just now figuring out that radio is sonically segregated? or how about the fact that the genre that she performs in is the dominant one? and is this just sour grapes because she's getting the short end of the stick now, whereas she used to reap the rewards of it?
i mean i like her, don't get me wrong. but i'm not going to sit through 11 minutes to hear her tell me about something i figured out when i was 13. Even more hilarious when you consider the fact she aint doin nothin original or real and just riding the lame ass gravy train like the rest of today's untalented musicians! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: errant said: is she just now figuring out that radio is sonically segregated? or how about the fact that the genre that she performs in is the dominant one? and is this just sour grapes because she's getting the short end of the stick now, whereas she used to reap the rewards of it?
i mean i like her, don't get me wrong. but i'm not going to sit through 11 minutes to hear her tell me about something i figured out when i was 13. Even more hilarious when you consider the fact she aint doin nothin original or real and just riding the lame ass gravy train like the rest of today's untalented musicians! Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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I liked the interview, but it ended for me when she said she was a fan of Lil' Wayne.  | |
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phunkdaddy said: JackieBlue said: Her call or not, it stunts the album IMO. I personally have never liked L.A. Reid and think he's part of the problem. While live instrumentation is very refreshing in R&B these days I don't think it's inclusion means an album is automatically superior. Still, I'm not crazy about it I think overall In Love & War is a solid album but that's just my opinion. [Edited 11/13/09 6:02am] Also the bits of live instrumentation that you may hear on this album is pointless if you are gonna go out and do track shows live anyway. 90% of artists out there use some sort of "fills" at their shows, i mean come on off it already, we nit pick when its someone we dont dig, and then blow it off when its someone we dig. The whole Emancipation Tour Prince had has band programmed, most werent even live because they hadnt learned the songs at that point. Her tour with Common and Quest Love featured a live band with background vocals filled in. I mean the fact that we point this out and yet someone like MJ and JJ have done un-live shows for the last 20 years is mindblowing. The bottom line is she isnt in the same boat as Rihanna or Ciara, those who see it like that have tunnel vision, but you gotta be able to seperate, everyone is always preaching seperate the good from the shit, well Amerie is the good in a sea of shit, sorry if you cant get it. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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VenusBlingBling said: I liked the interview, but it ended for me when she said she was a fan of Lil' Wayne.
and then has the nerve to complain like she's the second coming! I can't stand this broad.2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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VenusBlingBling said: I liked the interview, but it ended for me when she said she was a fan of Lil' Wayne.
Everyone says shit like that, they werent even in the studio, collabos, are bullshit anyway anyone who thinks that any of these peeps doing collabos hang are crazy. I have spent the last two decades listen to Mariah say she is fan of everyone "rapper of the day" to know its all talk. It was the same when Prince said he was into EVE, i was like, why are u even listening to that trash. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: VenusBlingBling said: I liked the interview, but it ended for me when she said she was a fan of Lil' Wayne.
and then has the nerve to complain like she's the second coming! I can't stand this broad. | |
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I think I sense favoritism...  I do like Amerie tho. | |
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Timmy84 said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: and then has the nerve to complain like she's the second coming! I can't stand this broad.although I do love that it's this one thing that got me trippin song featuring Eve! 
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Timmy84 said: phunkdaddy said: Also the bits of live instrumentation that you may hear on this album is pointless if you are gonna go out and do track shows live anyway. Sounds like half the record has samples anyway. No its live, Will Buchanan is one of the players, and someone Prince needs in his latest and weakest band. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: Timmy84 said: Sounds like half the record has samples anyway. No its live, Will Buchanan is one of the players, and someone Prince needs in his latest and weakest band. thank you. People look at me like I'm insane when I say I'm non plussed by the current band 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Many people just don't like Amerie, that's how it is. It's a matter of taste. She doesn't have a strong voice that is pleasant for the ears and the songs aren't breathtakingly different from what's on the radio nowadays.
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VenusBlingBling said: Many people just don't like Amerie, that's how it is. It's a matter of taste. She doesn't have a strong voice that is pleasant for the ears and the songs aren't breathtakingly different from what's on the radio nowadays.
Are you just a huge fan lastdecember or do you know her?  
So now this has turned into the only fans are publicists and family members 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Timmy84 said: I think I sense favoritism...
I do like Amerie tho.Why shouldnt you defend an artist U like? I would defend a-Ha to every idiot that only knows one song and then thinks they know the band then i school them, on the fact that they arent some 80's keyboard band the sound changed 20 years ago get your head out of your ass and out of the america marketplace. People tend to talk alot of crap with a broadstroke and then get mad when people defend shit, If i said all rap music sucks (which has always been said on this forum) and then shot down anyone defending the likes of common and others like that, who arent doing things that much different, its just their angle. If peeps can say Rihanna and Amerie are alike, sorry, you havent got a clue, if that were the case then Amerie would be on the mag covers and mtv 24/7 and not that big forehead girl. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: lastdecember said: No its live, Will Buchanan is one of the players, and someone Prince needs in his latest and weakest band. thank you. People look at me like I'm insane when I say I'm non plussed by the current band Off topic: Prince's new band is lousy SORRY folks THEY SUCK. Below average musicians from someone that should command more "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: VenusBlingBling said: Many people just don't like Amerie, that's how it is. It's a matter of taste. She doesn't have a strong voice that is pleasant for the ears and the songs aren't breathtakingly different from what's on the radio nowadays.
Are you just a huge fan lastdecember or do you know her?
So now this has turned into the only fans are publicists and family members Well, I'm just asking since lastdecember knows the biz.
Hey, it's not like I don't like Amerie, I do and she seems like a smart woman too. | |
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VenusBlingBling said: Many people just don't like Amerie, that's how it is. It's a matter of taste. She doesn't have a strong voice that is pleasant for the ears and the songs aren't breathtakingly different from what's on the radio nowadays.
Are you just a huge fan lastdecember or do you know her? On what planet does Amerie get airplay?? Well i will take her voice believe it or not over the likes of even Beyonce, WHY? because i know she is singing, Beyonces vocals and Mariahs are so taped together in the studio and layered and filtered and mixed, they have never calling themselves "soul singers" when nothing is coming from the soul, i wanna hear your damn breath on the mix. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: thank you. People look at me like I'm insane when I say I'm non plussed by the current band Off topic: Prince's new band is lousy SORRY folks THEY SUCK. Below average musicians from someone that should command more You mean someone who always has! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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lastdecember said: VenusBlingBling said: Many people just don't like Amerie, that's how it is. It's a matter of taste. She doesn't have a strong voice that is pleasant for the ears and the songs aren't breathtakingly different from what's on the radio nowadays.
Are you just a huge fan lastdecember or do you know her? On what planet does Amerie get airplay?? Well i will take her voice believe it or not over the likes of even Beyonce, WHY? because i know she is singing, Beyonces vocals and Mariahs are so taped together in the studio and layered and filtered and mixed, they have never calling themselves "soul singers" when nothing is coming from the soul, i wanna hear your damn breath on the mix. I haven't said she gets played on the radio, but the music doesn't differ that much from what I do hear being played. Not in a WOW kind of way. When I hear an artist's recorded voice it's important to me that I don't start feeling annoyed after a few songs. Her voice stands out, which is good, but I don't long for hearing it. There are plenty of women with strong live vocals that are more pleasant to hear. I would definitely listen to her much more if I would have liked her voice more. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: lastdecember said: Off topic: Prince's new band is lousy SORRY folks THEY SUCK. Below average musicians from someone that should command more You mean someone who always has! Has, but hasnt always had the best.....we have tended to overrate some of his early bands just because of the nostalgia effect. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: You mean someone who always has! Has, but hasnt always had the best.....we have tended to overrate some of his early bands just because of the nostalgia effect. Let's get back to discussing this crazy broad. She's a high tech LaToya Jackson! I. JUST. CAN'T. STAND. HER 
I must be sooooo out of it because I see people running around yelling and screaming about her bravery and fighting the system and then I hear her songs and I think I'm reading a thread created straight from some mental hospital! [Edited 11/13/09 17:40pm] 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: lastdecember said: Has, but hasnt always had the best.....we have tended to overrate some of his early bands just because of the nostalgia effect. Let's get back to discussing this crazy broad. She's a high tech LaToya Jackson! I. JUST. CAN'T. STAND. HER
I must be sooooo out of it because I see people running around yelling and screaming about her bravery and fighting the system and then I hear her songs and I think I'm reading a thread created straight from some mental hospital!
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Timmy84 said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Let's get back to discussing this crazy broad. She's a high tech LaToya Jackson! I. JUST. CAN'T. STAND. HER
I must be sooooo out of it because I see people running around yelling and screaming about her bravery and fighting the system and then I hear her songs and I think I'm reading a thread created straight from some mental hospital!
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Tell 'em why you mad son. because I read this amazing review that basically said she was the second coming and I bought her first album blind only to discover I got sucker punched! 
I feel the same way about Goapele, I just don't see what the hoopla is all about. I think Chaka ruined me for life! [Edited 11/13/09 18:18pm] 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Timmy84 said:
Tell 'em why you mad son. because I read this amazing review that basically said she was the second coming and I bought her first album blind only to discover I got sucker punched!
I feel the same way about Goapele, I just don't see what the hoopla is all about. I think Chaka ruined me for life!
[Edited 11/13/09 18:18pm] AH! I see.  Yeah people need to stop hyping artists up. That's why certain artists like Amerie are where they are. And she's on Def Scam lol | |
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lastdecember said: phunkdaddy said: Also the bits of live instrumentation that you may hear on this album is pointless if you are gonna go out and do track shows live anyway. 90% of artists out there use some sort of "fills" at their shows, i mean come on off it already, we nit pick when its someone we dont dig, and then blow it off when its someone we dig. The whole Emancipation Tour Prince had has band programmed, most werent even live because they hadnt learned the songs at that point. Her tour with Common and Quest Love featured a live band with background vocals filled in. I mean the fact that we point this out and yet someone like MJ and JJ have done un-live shows for the last 20 years is mindblowing. The bottom line is she isnt in the same boat as Rihanna or Ciara, those who see it like that have tunnel vision, but you gotta be able to seperate, everyone is always preaching seperate the good from the shit, well Amerie is the good in a sea of shit, sorry if you cant get it. First of all,this argument is getting pointless and tired. Nobody's nitpicking but you. I've said countless times i do like Amerie but don't sit here and try to B.S the people like this new album is anything special or different from the shit most of the R&B chicks or urban dance chicks are doing. Sorry if you don't get it. You seem to be the only one here praising Amerie for something she's not. Isn't it amazing you're the only one here who is saying this album is the album of the year? Why the hell you keep bringing up Rhianna? Musically i don't even care for her. Ciara is good eye candy and a good dancer but vocally she is weak and isn't much weaker than Amerie. As far as female artists that do a good live show would be someone like Angie Stone and Ledisi. I know Ledisi for sure because i've just seen her live with no click track and all musicianship. Of course comparing Amerie to Ledisi would be like comparing Ken Norton to Muhhammad Ali. [Edited 11/13/09 18:40pm] Don't laugh at my funk
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Timmy84 said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: because I read this amazing review that basically said she was the second coming and I bought her first album blind only to discover I got sucker punched!
I feel the same way about Goapele, I just don't see what the hoopla is all about. I think Chaka ruined me for life!
[Edited 11/13/09 18:18pm] AH! I see. Yeah people need to stop hyping artists up. That's why certain artists like Amerie are where they are. And she's on Def Scam lolLaughing at Def Scam.
Is that where L.A Reid is? Don't laugh at my funk
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phunkdaddy said: Timmy84 said: AH! I see. Yeah people need to stop hyping artists up. That's why certain artists like Amerie are where they are. And she's on Def Scam lolLaughing at Def Scam.
Is that where L.A Reid is? Yep.
I think the first dumb move any artist could make is sign with Def Scam lol Only people they're looking out for is Rihanna and Kanye lol [Edited 11/13/09 18:44pm] | |
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