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Chuck D's 18 Reasons why 2Pac is alive (Questions?)

I found this article and I wanted the org's thoughts on it. Was this a massive media sensation when Chuck D came out saying all this? Does any of it hold true to this day? Feel free anyone-- to go claim by claim and debunk them. I'm fascinated by the fact that ALL these things together might be the actual situation -- or if not-- Why Chuck D would spread rumors. He doesn't strike me as someone who is into faking it for the sake of the media. Thoughts?

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In the months after the death of Tupac Shakur the media dove into speculations that his death was a hoax, and that he was actually alive, living on an island in the sun. Many conspiracy theories arose, each seeming more and more absurd than the next, overshadowing any real evidence that could be found to give real insight into the case. Nothing ever came from all of the theories and media hype, as the debate over Tupac's death still rages on today, with numerous books and a few documentaries still being published revolving around the subject today. However, all of this started with Chuck D of Public Enemy fame.

In early October of 1996 Chuck D was giving a West Coast publicity tour supporting his latest album "The Autobiography of Mista Chuck". During this tour Chuck D made a stop in the Bay Area to give an interview with David D on the Hip Hop Corner, David D's radio show on KALX. It was during this interview that Chuck D first exposed his "proof" that Tupac had faked his own death, and was still alive.

Sadly, Chuck D's reasoning is flawed, as almost all of his statements why Tupac must be alive are completely random or completely ridiculous. It's almost as if he made them all up on the spot, as there is no coherent flow to his reasoning and he often times implies that Tupac DID die. Some of it is so absurd that it will make you laugh out loud, but even though his reasons are faulty they still grabbed the attention of the media, which took Chuck D's ideas and ran with them to bigger and better places.

Chuck D's 18 Reasons Why 2Pac Is Alive

2Pac died on Friday the 13th.

Las Vegas is a payoff City, meaning all sorts of folks have been known to be on the take. That means doctors, press, lawyers etc.

The white Cadillac containing the assailants was never found. How could this be when Vegas is in the middle of a desert?

There's a small Black community on the North side of town. This strip is only about 8 blocks long. The attackers were Black. Where did they go? Where did they hide?

The white Cadillac containing the gunmen passes a entourage of 2Pac's boys, many of them body guards. No one gives chase and there are no witnesses. There were no witnesses on the street. How come? Why not?

The name of 2Pac's next album is Machiavelli. He was an Italian war strategist who faked his death to fool his enemies. Perhaps Tupac is doing the same thing?
The cover of his next album has 2Pac looking like Jesus Christ. Could he be planning a resurrection?

Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert. How come there was no helicopter chase? If some one was to rob a casino the LVPD would've chased you down with some helicopters. How come this didn't happen with 2Pac's shooting?

2Pac was cremated the day after he died. Since when does some one get cremated the day after a murder? There was no autopsy.

There were no ballistic tests. At least we haven't heard about them.

Las Vegas is still very much a mob town. No one gets killed on the strip. You have to pretty much get permission in order for something like this to happen. Who was calling the shots on this one?

2Pac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once. He was 'grazed' by a bullet. Why did 2Pac get shot all those times and Suge not get hit?

Suge said he drove 2Pac to the hospital and they had a coherent conversation? How bad was 2Pac hit? In addition to all this there are conflicting stories claiming that Quincy Jones's daughter was in the back of the car and then she wasn't. What's the deal for real?

2Pac has completed two movies and three LPs that have yet to be released. With so many people upset about 2Pac's death literally anything connected with him is bound to net a whole lot of cash.

Suge Knight and 2Pac are the only two music industry people on that high of a profile with enough balls to pull off a stunt like faking death.

2Pac's video 'I Ain't Mad At Ya' foretold his death.

2Pac always wore a bullet proof vest but for some strange reason he didn't wear one this time. Why not?

The memorial services that were open to the public were cancelled in both Los Angeles and Atlanta.

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http://www.daveyd.com/chuckpac18.html
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Reply #1 posted 11/10/09 2:31am

comegetwild

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This looks pretty convincing 2 me...



I've been wrong before but that certainly looked like him.
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Reply #2 posted 11/10/09 2:37am

dance4me3121

I wanna know about those 2 movies that havent been released.....
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Reply #3 posted 11/10/09 6:26am

Graycap23

Lol.....wasn't that Easy E standing next 2 Pac? is he alive as well?
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Reply #4 posted 11/10/09 9:52am

kenlacam

wall
old news. Chuck D needs to come to grips with reality-tupac is DEAD. The list of reasons don't make any logical sense.
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Reply #5 posted 11/10/09 10:00am

ernestsewell

There's a dirty cop that was involved w/ the coverup of suspects. The whole thing has been exposed on a few shows like the Dateline-type.

Chuck D. has some interesting ideas. But I HOPE he doesn't end up being another Dick Gregory in his older age. Or worse....another Prince.
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Reply #6 posted 11/10/09 10:06am

kenlacam

I smell a can of worms about to be opened here, ernest! There will probably be a lot of sensitive Prince fans who won't take kindly to this comparison! hahaha!
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Reply #7 posted 11/10/09 10:17am

ernestsewell

kenlacam said:

I smell a can of worms about to be opened here, ernest! There will probably be a lot of sensitive Prince fans who won't take kindly to this comparison! hahaha!

C'est la vie.
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Reply #8 posted 11/10/09 10:20am

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Tupac is dead and people need to let him rest in peace. I mean the man was a great rapper and very entertaining, even fine but he wasn't Jesus.
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Reply #9 posted 11/10/09 10:22am

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Is this Chuck D's #1 reason?

2Pac died on Friday the 13th.



that is pathetic. I guess he's in to tarot cards and crystals too.
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Reply #10 posted 11/10/09 10:23am

kenlacam

DesireeNevermind said:

Tupac is dead and people need to let him rest in peace. I mean the man was a great rapper and very entertaining, even fine but he wasn't Jesus.

Can I be controversial for a quick second here? Let me pose a question:

Was Jesus even Jesus?.....
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Reply #11 posted 11/10/09 10:25am

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kenlacam said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Tupac is dead and people need to let him rest in peace. I mean the man was a great rapper and very entertaining, even fine but he wasn't Jesus.

Can I be controversial for a quick second here? Let me pose a question:

Was Jesus even Jesus?.....



hmmm are we talking saviour of man or Jesus Christ Superstar?
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Reply #12 posted 11/10/09 10:28am

Marrk

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I'm sure i saw a pretty convincing autopsy pic online a few years back. Tattoo's and all. neutral
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Reply #13 posted 11/10/09 10:54am

kenlacam

DesireeNevermind said:

kenlacam said:


Can I be controversial for a quick second here? Let me pose a question:

Was Jesus even Jesus?.....



hmmm are we talking saviour of man or Jesus Christ Superstar?

hahaha! Jesus Christ Superstar, of course! wink
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Reply #14 posted 11/10/09 11:10am

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kenlacam said:

DesireeNevermind said:




hmmm are we talking saviour of man or Jesus Christ Superstar?

hahaha! Jesus Christ Superstar, of course! wink



The Jesus I believe in would probably get beat all over again in todays' world. disbelief Humans are some fake ass boy!
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Reply #15 posted 11/10/09 12:06pm

kenlacam

yeahthat
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Reply #16 posted 11/10/09 12:09pm

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comegetwild said:

This looks pretty convincing 2 me...



I've been wrong before but that certainly looked like him.

does look alot like his waterhead, but it's probably not lol nuts
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Reply #17 posted 11/10/09 12:20pm

kenlacam

That aint Pac. I've seen people who look a lot more like Pac than this fool.
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Reply #18 posted 11/10/09 2:48pm

kimrachell

right after he died, i worked with a guy at hometown buffet that was his twin! eek eek even sounded like him! eek eek lol
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Reply #19 posted 11/10/09 2:51pm

ernestsewell

comegetwild said:

This looks pretty convincing 2 me...

I've been wrong before but that certainly looked like him.

That ain't him.
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Reply #20 posted 11/10/09 3:13pm

Cinnie

DesireeNevermind said:

Is this Chuck D's #1 reason?

2Pac died on Friday the 13th.



that is pathetic. I guess he's in to tarot cards and crystals too.


I don't know how "Friday The 13th" is relevant outside of a 1980s movie reference.
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Reply #21 posted 11/10/09 4:00pm

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kimrachell said:

right after he died, i worked with a guy at hometown buffet that was his twin! eek eek even sounded like him! eek eek lol



nothing to do with pac...but I was hanging out with my cuzz during mardi gras on year....while snoop was on no limit...and this dude that was with us was a IDENTICAL TWIN for snoop. I shit U not...I woulda put money on it being snoop.
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Reply #22 posted 11/10/09 5:00pm

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He's dead....sorry Chuck...i thought you were beyond BS like this, hes fucking dead. You know why no one was ever found or any evidence? Because like you said Vegas is Payoff city, but this was all a gang hit, and most of the gang worked for the Police, and had its roots to LA cops too and that police department. The people that did this are dead, taken out, like the good old mafia used to do, why? because 2pac was a straight up thug, always was and he died that way, there wasnt anything redeemable in him, yeah he was a poet, but he was a fucking criminal all his life, and he died the way he lived, Sorry Chuck cant be anymore blunt than that, Hes fucking dead. Oh and the NO SNITCHING deal originated here too.

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Reply #23 posted 11/10/09 6:22pm

nurseV

Besides all this B.S. there are two things for sure that let me know Tupac is dead #1 being the day I saw and interview with his mother and she was crying eek The pain on her face is only the pain that a parent can have for a slained child sad Secondly, I saw Snoop cry and you know that shit isn't happening for know one eek He cried when talking about seeing Tupac in the hospital before his death-that shit is real. Tupac is the greatest rapper to ever do it, but he is DEAD!
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Reply #24 posted 11/10/09 6:30pm

nurseV

comegetwild said:

This looks pretty convincing 2 me...



I've been wrong before but that certainly looked like him.



I can't even look at this eek Fake shit
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Reply #25 posted 11/10/09 6:42pm

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Graycap23 said:

Lol.....wasn't that Easy E standing next 2 Pac? is he alive as well?


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Reply #26 posted 11/12/09 9:16pm

Cinnie

Cinnie said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Is this Chuck D's #1 reason?




that is pathetic. I guess he's in to tarot cards and crystals too.


I don't know how "Friday The 13th" is relevant outside of a 1980s movie reference.


It is said that Jesus died on a Friday and had 13 apostles or whatever at his last suppah, so it's like double bad luck or something.
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Reply #27 posted 11/12/09 9:19pm

Cinnie

ernestsewell said:

There's a dirty cop that was involved w/ the coverup of suspects. The whole thing has been exposed on a few shows like the Dateline-type.

Chuck D. has some interesting ideas. But I HOPE he doesn't end up being another Dick Gregory in his older age. Or worse....another Prince.


It should be noted that Chuck D stated this stuff during the promotion of his 1996 solo debut.

A lot more facts have come to the surface. I think that everyone was trying to make sense of it.

I am sure more facts will surface about who killed Michael Jackson. Right now, all we have is our theories.
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Reply #28 posted 11/12/09 10:42pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Tupac is dead and people need to let him rest in peace. I mean the man was a great rapper and very entertaining, even fine but he wasn't Jesus.


Pac's 7 years theory expired by December 2003. He is truly dead.
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Reply #29 posted 11/12/09 11:05pm

poetcorner61

I saw Elvis the other day hangin' out at the mall! razz
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