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Thread started 11/16/09 10:29pm

badujunkie

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Who can be considered strictly POP???

Madonna
Kylie Minogue
Lady Gaga
Britney Spears
Christina Aguilera
Spice Girls
Backstreet Boys
NSync
98 Degrees
New Kids on the Block
Tiffany
Deborah Gibson
Paula Abdul
Savage Garden
Jessica Simpson
Mandy Moore
Annie
Danii Minogue
Hanson

George Michael (?)
Annie Lennox (?)

Can Elvis be considered plainly pop? Jackson 5? Ricky Martin and J.Lo - or are they crossover latin pop?

I'm really curious ppl's definitions, that's all...as a pop junkie
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Reply #1 posted 11/16/09 10:35pm

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it depends on your definition

most of those artists have elements of disco, electro, techno, dance, rnb, soul, funk, rock and even indie (remember kylies deconstruction albums)

pop is short for popular, as in "contemporary popular music", so on that basis they are pop, as are all artists who appear in the music charts
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Reply #2 posted 11/16/09 10:49pm

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unique said:

it depends on your definition

most of those artists have elements of disco, electro, techno, dance, rnb, soul, funk, rock and even indie (remember kylies deconstruction albums)

pop is short for popular, as in "contemporary popular music", so on that basis they are pop, as are all artists who appear in the music charts


.....and then there are freaking Air Supply & Christopher Cross that are definitely POP as in Not Funky. disbelief

OK, I'm taking a piss. But you know what I'm hinting at. lol
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Reply #3 posted 11/16/09 10:51pm

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yeah, but i think even though pop is technically short for 'popular music' that's just etimology, history...it's morphed into its own label, its own genre. somehow if too much rock, r&b/hip hop influence, or latin is involved, it's something else. that's how justin, kelly, pink, beyonce get away with not being strictly defined as 'pop.'
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Reply #4 posted 11/16/09 10:53pm

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badujunkie said:

yeah, but i think even though pop is technically short for 'popular music' that's just etimology, history...it's morphed into its own label, its own genre. somehow if too much rock, r&b/hip hop influence, or latin is involved, it's something else. that's how justin, kelly, pink, beyonce get away with not being strictly defined as 'pop.'


yet, somehow, a dance/electronic/techno vibe can be served up a lot more per square inch in a 'pop' record...yet that's a slippery slope too, before being considered 'just' electronica or 'raver music'...or 'euro'
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Reply #5 posted 11/16/09 11:04pm

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badujunkie said:

Madonna -- dance-pop
Kylie Minogue -- dance-pop
Lady Gaga -- dance-pop
Britney Spears -- dance-pop
Christina Aguilera -- dance-pop & hip-hop/r&b
Spice Girls -- dance-pop
Backstreet Boys -- dance-pop
NSync -- dance-pop
98 Degrees -- dance-pop
New Kids on the Block -- dance-pop & r&b
Tiffany -- dance-pop
Deborah Gibson -- dance-pop
Paula Abdul -- dance-pop & r&b
Savage Garden -- pop
Jessica Simpson -- pop
Mandy Moore -- pop
Annie -- ?????
Danii Minogue -- dance-pop, UK house, & euro-dance
Hanson -- pop/rock

George Michael -- dance-pop, r&b, & UK northern soul
Annie Lennox -- new wave, pop/rock, & adult contemporary

Can Elvis be considered plainly pop? -- pop/rock, country, & gospel

Jackson 5/The Jacksons? -- dance-pop, funk, disco, r&b, & soul

Ricky Martin and J.Lo - or are they crossover latin pop?

Ricky Martin -- dance-pop & latin-pop
Jennifer Lopez/J.Lo -- dance-pop, hip-hop/r&b, & latin pop

I'm really curious ppl's definitions, that's all...as a pop junkie


I just helped you answer your question!^ biggrin
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Reply #6 posted 11/16/09 11:23pm

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lady gaga has only become POP as the shift of american music tastes in the recent months

she was a bubbling under artist for most of 2008 and late 07.

otherwise she'd be a dance artist like Kristine W, Robyn, or those in coming british acts La Roux, Little Boots, Ladytron, and the like.
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Reply #7 posted 11/16/09 11:24pm

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Hmm..

there was a really interesting list done by Slant Magazine and their definition of pop was really interesting..

http://www.slantmagazine....talpop.asp

Defining the word "pop" was a task in and of itself. Just a few of the informal definitions we stumbled upon were "of or for the general public," "popular or popularized," and "of, relating to, or specializing in popular music." But none of these seemed to fit the idea-bubble floating above our heads. Here, "pop" isn't a broad definition, which means no hip-hop (sorry, Lauryn, Dr. Dre) and no straight-up rock (no Nirvana, no Radiohead). Instead, we have chosen to focus on pure, post-rock-n'-roll-era pop genres (pop/rock, pop-soul, synth-pop, dance-pop, electronic-pop, folk-pop, dream-pop, vocal-pop, euro-pop, jangle-pop, alt-pop-basically anything with the word "pop" attached to it), which can all be defined with disease-like words like "infectious," "contagious" and, our favorite, "gelatinous."

I quite liked their list. smile
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Reply #8 posted 11/16/09 11:37pm

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ehuffnsd said:

lady gaga has only become POP as the shift of american music tastes in the recent months

she was a bubbling under artist for most of 2008 and late 07.

otherwise she'd be a dance artist like Kristine W, Robyn, or those in coming british acts La Roux, Little Boots, Ladytron, and the like.


1. Robyn already had 3 hit singles in the USA, all which was from her self-titled debut album. And all 3 tracks were dance-pop. Sadly, she never charted on the USA charts ever since.

2. Although they never had crossover success in the USA, Labytron has a cult following at the height of the nu synthpop & electrocrash movements that took place in the first half of the 2000's.
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Reply #9 posted 11/16/09 11:39pm

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TonyVanDam said:

ehuffnsd said:

lady gaga has only become POP as the shift of american music tastes in the recent months

she was a bubbling under artist for most of 2008 and late 07.

otherwise she'd be a dance artist like Kristine W, Robyn, or those in coming british acts La Roux, Little Boots, Ladytron, and the like.


1. Robyn already had 3 hit singles in the USA, all which was from her self-titled debut album. And all 3 tracks were dance-pop. Sadly, she never charted on the USA charts ever since.

2. Although they never had crossover success in the USA, Labytron has a cult following at the height of the nu synthpop & electrocrash movements that took place in the first half of the 2000's.

right had american taste not shifted in late 08 lady gaga would be underground still.
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