Wonder if Ike did a Chris Brown on Tina before or after the show

Lonette McKee is also performing-she talks about being up for the movie Sparkle.

Even though I'm getting tired of their pattern of showing only huge "legends" or "icons", I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. Ike and Tina performed my two favorite songs by them "Sexy Ida" and "Nutbush City Limits". The songs for the dancers were great too. Good to see they were on into the mid 1970s when more queens started dancing on the show. It just ain't "Soul Train" without the hollering queens.

I kept looking at Ike throughout the show and saying to myself "you motherfucker". This would have been around the time when his abuse was the worst. In the movie, when they were rehearsing "Nutbush City Limits", that's when he raped her in their home studio.

ike never raped tina, please stop spreading rumors.

jackson35 said:

Vainandy is right, he did.

scriptgirl said:

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I loved the song she performed and I never knew she had any records out.

Yeah, the rape rumor got dismissed by BOTH Tina & Ike,,,,as well as the Ritz backstage incident.

You gotta love Phonywood!!!!
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Harlepolis said:

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Well Tina talks about being beaten and sexually attacked following these beatings in the book "I Tina"

laurarichardson said:

I read the book and she said nothing about being raped,,,hell, she HERSELF denied that rumor along with the gun incident
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shorttrini said:

I still remember THAT scene in the film Whats Love Got To Do With It.

TonyVanDam said:

That scene is one of the reasons why I have not watched that movie since it came out....She has denied it and so has he, but, why would anyone admit to doing it or having it done to them?

shorttrini said:

I still don't believe Ike raped her, he did a lot of dumb things to Tina but that? I just don't believe it, not saying it's better but it's ridiculous to assume anything because of that scene.

I wish they showed Soul Train everyday or twice a week they have enough episodes

Harlepolis said:

Right. Tina did say that some things that never actually happened (including the rape) were written especially for the movie to spice it up.

kitbradley said:

Yeah and why would Tina even lie? lol Her book was graphic but it wasn't as monstrous as they made Ike in the film.
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Timmy84 said:

Honestly, how many women in the USA & UK were already convince that Ike was a "monster" BEFORE the movie debuted in both countries?!?

I don't think it was so much about feeling sorry for Tina the victim as much as it was really about how evil Ike was back in the days (from the point of view of Hollywood no less).
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shorttrini said:

False. The rape never happened. Even Tina admitted some
parts of the movie was a little exaggerated. The abuse
happened but not the rape.

Timmy84 said:

You might have a point, Timmy. I guess, since he was all ready a wife beater, I automatically wanted to pin that on him as well.

TonyVanDam said:

I wonder how many men and women really KNEW about Ike until "What's Love?"

Ike recalling the time he broke Tina's jaw. " Man her jaw wasn't broken she could eat, still sip soup through a straw.". He was a jerk, to put it mildly.

TD3 said:

He was an ass yes.

Well damn, you learn something new every day.

In that case, it was rediculous for them to add fictional scenes when there was plenty of dirt already to keep the movie interesting. So Ike didn't pull a gun backstage at The Ritz, did he even go to The Ritz at all? And did he hire a hitman like his son said toward the end of the movie?

Exactly. They have more than enough episodes to show one a day.

Harlepolis said:

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I did not say she said she was raped in the book. Try reading before you go off. In the book Ike beats her and then has sex with her many times. Now maybe that does not meet the legal definition of rape but damm it sure is fucking evil.

Please stop making excuses for Ike he was an asshole and his abuse of Tina comes up in the Little Richard autobiography and Etta James talks about it in her autobiography.

It was well known in the music industry that he was beating the crap out of her before that movie came out.

laurarichardson said:

Ok,,,

A) I didn't go off.

B) I didn't make excuses for Ike I merely pointed their dismissive of that rape,,,BOTH of them actually.

C) You don't have to make a case out of this, we ALL know that he beat the shit outta her,,,,but the rape thing is just bullsiht Evil or not, lets not build a LIE for the sake of drama.
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I thought it was common knowledge that Ike Turner was an asshole. No one's this close to "defending" him. Only Phil Spector can defend him and, uh, well you know lol...

Harlepolis said:

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It is Hollywood and the movies they always add and change things to stories maybe you don't know this but if you do than your reaction is going off.

Anyway whole truth or half truth or outright lie who cares it is Ike Turner

laurarichardson said:

Obviously you do otherwise, you wouldn't have made such a big deal about it

But I do agree, it IS hollywood, indeed

vainandy said:

No, he stopped stalking her after the divorce was finalized,,,,also, he was jailed at the time, so you know the encounter wouldn't take place And nah, no hitman either lol...

Another thing, there was NO Jackie lol the woman who introduced Tina to Buddhism was a Swedish woman(she was the same person who took Tina in when the divorce court took ALL of her savings).

Oh wait, there WAS an encounter between them right after the divorce(according to the book),,,,it would've been more intersting had they included it as a scene. As she said it, Tina got outside of the Swedish woman's house with a shotgun ready to blast Ike's forehead(he was there with his gang of friends after he finally found her) she told the woman to call 911 and waited till the police came in and told them "I'm Tina Turner, thats my ex-husband and I need you to take him away before I go to jail for killing him" Now WHY in the hell didn't they include that, is beyond me.