here's he comment i was referring to (not quite what i first thought, but close enough!):



lechnoupy (4 days ago)
Reply Hello !

In "This is it", the new video of Smooth Criminal is based on the famous movie GILDA.
MJ, is Ballin Mundson (George Macready is the actor is the movie, born on a August 29 too !).

Ballin Mundson FAKED HIS DEATH to deceive the Nazis.
IF... this is a part of a big plot, I consider it as BRILLANT !
[Edited 11/11/09 13:54pm]

bboy87 said:

Even in '93, with the allegations, they couldn't care less about Michael...only the money and the tours yet you say they cared and supported him? The first thing they did, in 93, the first time they saw Michael after the allegations, was pressure him to perform with them. They didn't ask if he was OK or how was he coping...they pressured him to give them money and perform with them. When, besides the trial, did they support him?
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Marrk said:

Gosh, you're giving us something to think about

MJ replaced him in Gilda:

George Macready (August 29, 1899 – July 2, 1973) was an American stage, film, and television actor who was noted for playing polished villains.

MOL said:

So basically you're saying aside from the trial and wanting money from him, they didn't care about Michael at all?

seriously?!


come on now.....

bboy87 said:

none of us knows, jay. not even you.

graecophilos said:

and that includes MOL also

I'm sayin' it's obvious that no matter what went down, Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, Marlon, and Randy loved Michael
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bboy87 said:

Then, how do explain what they did to Michael, after the 93 allegations? They didn0t even ask how was he doing, how was he coping....they flied to Bangkok with a purpose: make him sign a contract. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT? If they did this, then they can do even worse. Don't forget that MJ's brothers don't even take care of their own kids. They don't cater for their own kids. Randy didn't know how many kids he had.

graecophilos said:

stories like this have been in existance for the last 20years plus. remember the Korean debacle? i'm not really keen on certain Jacksons.

MOL said:

If I recall, it was Joe, Katherine, and Rebbie who went to Bangkok to visit Michael, not the brothers

Yeah, Jermaine, and Randy are pretty much terrible fathers, everybody knows that

Yeah they pressured him into doing things, that's well known. I'm saying is that to say they didn't give a damn about Michael is wrong.

MOL..

You're full of shit. You're like the polar opposite to midnightmover but you both talk junk.

MOL said:

The Jacksons always supported MJ, they just went at their own careers wrong. Their support for MJ wasn't for show. I don't buy that.

they rollin deep

mimi07 said:

good picture
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mimi07 said:

This must be in Gary or something, only Jacksons I can pick is Jackie, Joe (in the shades), MJ and Marlon.

Timmy84 said:

yeah and i see johnny the drummer from the early years, he's holding the crying baby
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MOL said:

Now I understand why Jermaine wants to turn Neverland into an MJ Graceland. Dude's a chip off the old block - a hustla.

MOL said:

How did Randy not know how many kids he had? He had one with the first wife he beat up and two with the second. It was Claymaine who has kids all over the place.

MOL said:

i sooooo agree with every post you've written, mol. on the other thread i was semi-flamed for my statements about the obvious attempts by the family to upturn mj's will b/c he had 'the nerve' to leave his siblings out of it.

i remember the fiasco in '93, too. mj's welfare was FAR FROM their minds. why would jermaine continue to insist on putting on that 'family (dis)honor' mess, knowing that mj was in no shape to perform? he lied about that right up to the end when mj came out said thank you and left. many people demanded their money back. and yes marrk, some of us do remember the korean debacle; i mentioned how the korean company is trying to attach katherine's money thru mj's estate b/c she, joe and jermaine have NEVER paid the judgment against them.

see, a lot of people try to take katherine out of the middle of these battles, but i don't. she's right in the thick of it, always. my understanding is that she was there when randy tried to bully mj into signing away the rights to atv, and was there when joe and leonard rowe 'forced' mj into naming rowe as one of his managers earlier this year. and she said and did NOTHING to support mj against these parasites in her own family.

moreover, until yesterday, she was right there having those lawyers fight on her behalf to get more control over mj's estate. if mj had wanted to appoint anyone from his family to an executor, he would have done it. the law in CA has changed retroactively and it's now more difficult to meet the bar to have someone removed as an executor. that, and only that, is the reason she and her lawyers have backed down.

kibbles said:

Boy, this is getting ugly by the day

MOL don't believe everything you read about the jacksons, it sound like u find anything about them that u can and u beleive al of it. some is probably true but alot sound like BULL

bboy87 said:

I agree.....

Enough with this fake death bullshit Michael is dead smh

Yes, the Jacksons, with, probably, the exception of Joe, love Michael dearly. I never said the contrary. I'm sure they love him.

Timmy84 said:

LOL.....

we weren't serious..

mimi07 said:

For a second, I thought Marlon was Randy. LOL

babybugz said:

There are some who think Elvis and Tupac are still alive. You knew this nonsense was coming when Michael passed.

MOL said:

You said they couldn't care less about him

bboy87 said:

Still, that doesn't mean they don't love him. It means that they are selfish bastards, not that they don't love Michael.