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Reply #60 posted 11/09/09 2:18pm

Harlepolis

Tom Joyner is the older radio version of Tyler Perry,,,,,you can guess the rest.
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Reply #61 posted 11/09/09 2:43pm

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Harlepolis said:

Tom Joyner is the older radio version of Tyler Perry,,,,,you can guess the rest.


Seriously, Sis. Come on, now. That's hardly fair.
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Reply #62 posted 11/09/09 2:55pm

Harlepolis

Ottensen said:

Harlepolis said:

Tom Joyner is the older radio version of Tyler Perry,,,,,you can guess the rest.


Seriously, Sis. Come on, now. That's hardly fair.


What? I'm just calling it how I see it lol the GOOD as well as the bad.

I like the fact that like Tyler, he keeps inviting those black acts that will probaby won't get invited anywhere else or get work unless it was the chitlin circuit.

But also, Missfee pointed out something that reminded me of his jabs against black people who go to non-black universities,,,,and no, he's not the only one who carrys on with this foolishness, it seems alot of black radio personalities shoot this crabs in a barrel/you're-not-good-enough-to-try-stuff-black people-wouldn't normally-do mentality,,,,,and no, I'm not fussing about what he does with his money(thats his choice) its alot of the venom he spits on the radio that makes feel uneasy, he & Steve Harvey babble alooooot of backward cringe worthy shit in their shows.

Maybe I'm expecting more from folks,,,,,idk.
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Reply #63 posted 11/09/09 7:03pm

Graycap23

Harlepolis said:

Tom Joyner is the older radio version of Tyler Perry,,,,,you can guess the rest.

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Reply #64 posted 11/09/09 7:18pm

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laurarichardson said:

Vendetta1 said:

Tom Joyner is not making fun of racism. He mentions white people in some negative form damn near every day. I love the times where someone calls in and calls him on his shit. I also hate how he tears down people every.damn.day. and Jay Anthony Brown is one irritating unfunny motherfucker.

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Once again I am not a hugh fan of Tom Joyner I think a lot his humor is country and corny but hardly racist or mean-spirtited.

I can only reference the routine concerning "interacial dating" because I actually remember this bit. He was obvisouly clowing black people who try and hide that they are dating "white people" which is ridculous and stupid.

Black folks were the butt of the joke during this routine and I don't really see why anyone thinks white folks can never be mentioned in a "negative light" or made fun of.

Gee it is not like you don't see "black folk" ridiculed in the mass media everyday.

The point is all racist do stupid things and in comedy it is open season for any group.


As I said before, I didn't stick around after the commercial to hear the callers' comments because I had a feeling they would irritate the hell out of me so I don't know what the conversation eventually turned to. But I didn't get the impression that he was getting onto black people for dating interracially and keeping it a secret especially since I've heard him on numerous occasions making comments and snickering about a black entertainer or athlete making a speech or accepting an award "standing up there with that white woman on his arm". Those people aren't dating in secret if they have their spouse or partner on their arm in front of cameras receiving an award. He definately has that "stay with your own kind" mentality.
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Reply #65 posted 11/09/09 7:29pm

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Graycap23 said:

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He can and has done that, but don't get on the radio preaching about "black this and black that" when you don't support all, and just some who in "your view" deserves funding if they go to a black college. There's no unity, always division and it really ticks me off.
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Those schools are under funded and under attended.
There is a method 2 his madness.


I agree and I'm glad he supports them. But I see missfee's point too although I never would have thought of it until she pointed it out. As great as it is that he supports historically black colleges, I wouldn't put it past him to have a feeling that black people that don't attend them are "less black" or "want to be white" since he seems to have a problem with black people dating or interacting with any white people whatsoever.
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Reply #66 posted 11/09/09 7:32pm

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Harlepolis said:

Ottensen said:



Seriously, Sis. Come on, now. That's hardly fair.


What? I'm just calling it how I see it lol the GOOD as well as the bad.

I like the fact that like Tyler, he keeps inviting those black acts that will probaby won't get invited anywhere else or get work unless it was the chitlin circuit.

But also, Missfee pointed out something that reminded me of his jabs against black people who go to non-black universities,,,,and no, he's not the only one who carrys on with this foolishness, it seems alot of black radio personalities shoot this crabs in a barrel/you're-not-good-enough-to-try-stuff-black people-wouldn't normally-do mentality,,,,,and no, I'm not fussing about what he does with his money(thats his choice) its alot of the venom he spits on the radio that makes feel uneasy, he & Steve Harvey babble alooooot of backward cringe worthy shit in their shows.

Maybe I'm expecting more from folks,,,,,idk.


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Reply #67 posted 11/09/09 7:40pm

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Actually, I couldn't believe my ears this morning. The motherfucker must be trying to reel me back in because funk is like crack to me even if it happens to be an asshole that's dishing it out. lol I was flipping through the stations and he was actually jamming again this morning. He was playing a megamix with no traces of new or current songs whatsoever that contained....

The Barkays - Do It (Let Me See You Shake)
Cameo - Shake Your Pants
The Deele - Body Talk

They were throwing down! That's only a piece of it because it was already in progess when I tuned into that station and it was straight up 8:00 o'clock and I had just arrived at work. I was sitting in the parking lot and had to make myself stop listening and get out of the car so I wouldn't be late.
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Reply #68 posted 11/10/09 6:49am

Graycap23

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I agree and I'm glad he supports them. But I see missfee's point too although I never would have thought of it until she pointed it out. As great as it is that he supports historically black colleges, I wouldn't put it past him to have a feeling that black people that don't attend them are "less black" or "want to be white" since he seems to have a problem with black people dating or interacting with any white people whatsoever.

He can have those irrational thoughts if he chooses. I have a feeling the Tom is a bit more mature than that.
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Reply #69 posted 11/10/09 7:00am

Harlepolis

Graycap23 said:

vainandy said:



I agree and I'm glad he supports them. But I see missfee's point too although I never would have thought of it until she pointed it out. As great as it is that he supports historically black colleges, I wouldn't put it past him to have a feeling that black people that don't attend them are "less black" or "want to be white" since he seems to have a problem with black people dating or interacting with any white people whatsoever.

He can have those irrational thoughts if he chooses.


Just as we can dismiss those irrational thoughts if we choose shrug
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Reply #70 posted 11/10/09 7:17am

Graycap23

Harlepolis said:

Graycap23 said:


He can have those irrational thoughts if he chooses.


Just as we can dismiss those irrational thoughts if we choose shrug

Kool by me.
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Reply #71 posted 11/10/09 8:03am

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tom joyner can do whatever he damn well please, it is his show deal with it.
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Reply #72 posted 11/10/09 9:27am

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jackson35 said:

tom joyner can do whatever he damn well please, it is his show deal with it.

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Co-Sign. It is funny how the Howard Sterns and Don Imus seem to be able to say whatever they want
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Reply #73 posted 11/10/09 9:38am

Graycap23

laurarichardson said:

jackson35 said:

tom joyner can do whatever he damn well please, it is his show deal with it.

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Co-Sign. It is funny how the Howard Sterns and Don Imus seem to be able to say whatever they want

Different rules.....
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Reply #74 posted 11/10/09 9:44am

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Graycap23 said:

laurarichardson said:


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Co-Sign. It is funny how the Howard Sterns and Don Imus seem to be able to say whatever they want

Different rules.....

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Apparently so.

I can understand why some white people would not get some of Tom’s humor especially when it comes to clowning black folks which he does do but I am really beginning to wonder about some brothers and sisters. It appears that some of us would rather switch than think or maybe we just don’t want to do to much thinking.
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Reply #75 posted 11/10/09 9:50am

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Graycap23 said:


Different rules.....

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Apparently so.

I can understand why some white people would not get some of Tom’s humor especially when it comes to clowning black folks which he does do but I am really beginning to wonder about some brothers and sisters. It appears that some of us would rather switch than think or maybe we just don’t want to do to much thinking.

It is time 2 start weeding some of the weak folks OUT all together.
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Reply #76 posted 11/10/09 12:17pm

Harlepolis

1. This thread is about Tom Joyner and what we think about him,,,,not Don Imus or Howard "Corpse" Stern.

2. Some of the "brothers and sisters" in here are voicing their concerns because they expect or should I say HOPE for a better and a fresher presentation from our black radio personalities,,,,we don't except SQUAT from Don or that other walking corpse, that is not a sign of weakness or lack of thinking, its a sign of low bullshit maintenance.

3. Unable to find certain humor funny is not because folks "don't get it and you do" lol Its just a simple matter of ol' different strokes,,,,,one certainly don't have to think HARD about T.J.'s humor in order to get it, thats for damn sure lol
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Reply #77 posted 11/10/09 12:24pm

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Graycap23 said:

laurarichardson said:


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Apparently so.

I can understand why some white people would not get some of Tom’s humor especially when it comes to clowning black folks which he does do but I am really beginning to wonder about some brothers and sisters. It appears that some of us would rather switch than think or maybe we just don’t want to do to much thinking.

It is time 2 start weeding some of the weak folks OUT all together.

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Well we know who one of those people are from their response biggrin
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Reply #78 posted 11/10/09 12:28pm

Graycap23

laurarichardson said:

Graycap23 said:


It is time 2 start weeding some of the weak folks OUT all together.

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Well we know who one of those people are from their response biggrin

I'm not really talking about this subject per se. I'm not a Tj fan and I don't listen 2 the radio but some of our people are just plain clueless on a lot of issues confronting us.
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Reply #79 posted 11/10/09 12:34pm

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laurarichardson said:


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Well we know who one of those people are from their response biggrin

I'm not really talking about this subject per se. I'm not a Tj fan and I don't listen 2 the radio but some of our people are just plain clueless on a lot of issues confronting us.

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Reply #80 posted 11/10/09 12:45pm

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jackson35 said:

tom joyner can do whatever he damn well please, it is his show deal with it.

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Co-Sign. It is funny how the Howard Sterns and Don Imus seem to be able to say whatever they want


Excuse me, but the last I heard, Don Imus was fired because of his racist comments as he should have been. But even if he hadn't been fired, just because he's a racist asshole that may have gotten away with it, does that mean it's OK for Tom Joyner to be one also? If that's the case, then he's learned and copying the very white folks that he can't stand. If that's what he wants to do as sort of a revenge type thing, that's fine, I love revenge myself, but he needs to go after his revenge on the racist white people, not the ones that aren't racist and dating black people.

And as for different rules applying to different people, apparently they do because I've said numerous times on this very thread that if a white radio host ask the same question about interracial dating, they would have been fired. Don Imus made some racist comments about some black girls on a team and was fired after a big stink was made about it. Tom has been talking his shit for years also but the difference is, no stink has been made about it. Why? Because no stink has been made about it because very few white people listen to his show and the only ones he is offending are the ones that listen to black music and tune in, some of which are dating or married interracially. The fact that myself and MrSoulPower are probably the only two white people on this very thread is proof that most white people have never even heard of Tom Joyner. If I'm not mistaken, I think MrSoulPower's wife is black (not that it's any of our business) so naturally he would be offended also. There's not even enough of us to even make a stink about someone like Tom Joyner and even if a lot of other white folks had heard his comments, they wouldn't care because they would agree with Tom. They believe in "sticking with their own kind" also.
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Reply #81 posted 11/10/09 3:11pm

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Excuse me, but the last I heard, Don Imus was fired because of his racist comments as he should have been. But even if he hadn't been fired, just because he's a racist asshole that may have gotten away with it, does that mean it's OK for Tom Joyner to be one also? If that's the case, then he's learned and copying the very white folks that he can't stand. If that's what he wants to do as sort of a revenge type thing, that's fine, I love revenge myself, but he needs to go after his revenge on the racist white people, not the ones that aren't racist and dating black people.

And as for different rules applying to different people, apparently they do because I've said numerous times on this very thread that if a white radio host ask the same question about interracial dating, they would have been fired. Don Imus made some racist comments about some black girls on a team and was fired after a big stink was made about it. Tom has been talking his shit for years also but the difference is, no stink has been made about it. Why? Because no stink has been made about it because very few white people listen to his show and the only ones he is offending are the ones that listen to black music and tune in, some of which are dating or married interracially. The fact that myself and MrSoulPower are probably the only two white people on this very thread is proof that most white people have never even heard of Tom Joyner. If I'm not mistaken, I think MrSoulPower's wife is black (not that it's any of our business) so naturally he would be offended also. There's not even enough of us to even make a stink about someone like Tom Joyner and even if a lot of other white folks had heard his comments, they wouldn't care because they would agree with Tom. They believe in "sticking with their own kind" also.



You know what the major difference is between Tom and the rest of the guys you mentioned? Tom owns 51% of his show and Cathy Hughes (Radio One) owns the other 49% (last I checked). Tom used to be syndicated by ABC radio, but got tired of being told what he could and couldn't say or do.

I remember when Tom was with ABC, they didn't want him to have certain guests on, they didn't want him to do certain ad campaigns. They would repremand him for saying things. Well, Tom had enough and started his own thing. He now works across the street from the old ABC studios in Dallas and running his own thing. I have heard a few bad things about Reach Media, but overall, I hear it's just a standard job with an asshole for a boss.
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Reply #82 posted 11/20/09 9:05am

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Excuse me, but the last I heard, Don Imus was fired because of his racist comments as he should have been. But even if he hadn't been fired, just because he's a racist asshole that may have gotten away with it, does that mean it's OK for Tom Joyner to be one also? If that's the case, then he's learned and copying the very white folks that he can't stand. If that's what he wants to do as sort of a revenge type thing, that's fine, I love revenge myself, but he needs to go after his revenge on the racist white people, not the ones that aren't racist and dating black people.

And as for different rules applying to different people, apparently they do because I've said numerous times on this very thread that if a white radio host ask the same question about interracial dating, they would have been fired. Don Imus made some racist comments about some black girls on a team and was fired after a big stink was made about it. Tom has been talking his shit for years also but the difference is, no stink has been made about it. Why? Because no stink has been made about it because very few white people listen to his show and the only ones he is offending are the ones that listen to black music and tune in, some of which are dating or married interracially. The fact that myself and MrSoulPower are probably the only two white people on this very thread is proof that most white people have never even heard of Tom Joyner. If I'm not mistaken, I think MrSoulPower's wife is black (not that it's any of our business) so naturally he would be offended also. There's not even enough of us to even make a stink about someone like Tom Joyner and even if a lot of other white folks had heard his comments, they wouldn't care because they would agree with Tom. They believe in "sticking with their own kind" also.

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Don Imus is now back on the air and trust me if Tom Joyner said any of the shit that Don said his ass would have been gone for good.

In addtion, I don't think Tom Joyner gives a rat's ass if white people know who is what is new about most white people not really knowing about what is going on in the black community.


Like a said before you missed the whole point of his bit about interacial dating
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Reply #83 posted 11/20/09 9:43am

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But what about the ones who can afford to go to a white school? I'm african american and everybody in my family, with the exception of one, attended white universities, so that is supposed to make us bad because we didn't go to HBCU's or something? In my family it wasn't important to go to an HBCU, it was important to go to COLLEGE period. It didn't matter where, just the fact that you went and finished with a degree. There are plenty of successful African Americans out here who are successful and didn't go to HBCU's as well. Like I said before, this not a rant against HBCU's, I never said that it was bad to attend them, my thing is, why does there have to be such a division between "oh you went to an HBCU" or "you went to a white school"? That is my question.
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I did not go 2 an hbcu either, but Tj has the right 2 give his money 2 any school that he chooses 2.

nod And who else, other than Tom Joyner, is talking about and supporting HBCUs??? If he didn't put them on a pedestal and generate the funds he does, they would ALL be even worse off than they are now. Most HBCUs are struggling and have one foot in the grave. So even tho I don't listen to his show OR think he's funny, I definitely appreciate all the work he's done to support HBCUs cuz ain't nobody else gonna do it. thumbs up!
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Reply #84 posted 11/20/09 9:46am

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laurarichardson said:

vainandy said:



Excuse me, but the last I heard, Don Imus was fired because of his racist comments as he should have been. But even if he hadn't been fired, just because he's a racist asshole that may have gotten away with it, does that mean it's OK for Tom Joyner to be one also? If that's the case, then he's learned and copying the very white folks that he can't stand. If that's what he wants to do as sort of a revenge type thing, that's fine, I love revenge myself, but he needs to go after his revenge on the racist white people, not the ones that aren't racist and dating black people.

And as for different rules applying to different people, apparently they do because I've said numerous times on this very thread that if a white radio host ask the same question about interracial dating, they would have been fired. Don Imus made some racist comments about some black girls on a team and was fired after a big stink was made about it. Tom has been talking his shit for years also but the difference is, no stink has been made about it. Why? Because no stink has been made about it because very few white people listen to his show and the only ones he is offending are the ones that listen to black music and tune in, some of which are dating or married interracially. The fact that myself and MrSoulPower are probably the only two white people on this very thread is proof that most white people have never even heard of Tom Joyner. If I'm not mistaken, I think MrSoulPower's wife is black (not that it's any of our business) so naturally he would be offended also. There's not even enough of us to even make a stink about someone like Tom Joyner and even if a lot of other white folks had heard his comments, they wouldn't care because they would agree with Tom. They believe in "sticking with their own kind" also.

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Don Imus is now back on the air and trust me if Tom Joyner said any of the shit that Don said his ass would have been gone for good.


Oh really? I don't recall seeing him on MSNBC lately.....

In addtion, I don't think Tom Joyner gives a rat's ass if white people know who is what is new about most white people not really knowing about what is going on in the black community.


Did I say anything about Tom caring if white people knew who he is? Hell, Don Imus doesn't care if black people know who he is either. It's to both of their advantage if the race they are talking about doesn't listen to their show. It's only when enough of the other race becomes aware of their comments, that they get into trouble. If no black people were aware of Don Imus whatsoever, he would have never gotten into trouble for his statements. You know what I'm talking about, you are just twisting it around to get the focus off of Tom.

Like a said before you missed the whole point of his bit about interacial dating


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Reply #85 posted 11/20/09 9:47am

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Graycap23 said:


I did not go 2 an hbcu either, but Tj has the right 2 give his money 2 any school that he chooses 2.

He can and has done that, but don't get on the radio preaching about "black this and black that" when you don't support all, and just some who in "your view" deserves funding if they go to a black college. There's no unity, always division and it really ticks me off.
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The HBCU situation is unique because they are in dire straits and "white" schools are gonna get their money regardless. Being an HBCU, by definition, means that if black folks don't attend they are going to become extinct. It makes total sense to me that he gives scholarships to those who support HBCUs if his goal is to keep them going. Black folks are constantly bitching about how we don't support our own and I have to give Tom credit for putting his money and time where his mouth is.
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He gets on my nerves with that light skinned/ dark skinned ish.
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Reply #87 posted 11/20/09 10:44am

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SCNDLS said:

missfee said:


He can and has done that, but don't get on the radio preaching about "black this and black that" when you don't support all, and just some who in "your view" deserves funding if they go to a black college. There's no unity, always division and it really ticks me off.
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The HBCU situation is unique because they are in dire straits and "white" schools are gonna get their money regardless. Being an HBCU, by definition, means that if black folks don't attend they are going to become extinct. It makes total sense to me that he gives scholarships to those who support HBCUs if his goal is to keep them going. Black folks are constantly bitching about how we don't support our own and I have to give Tom credit for putting his money and time where his mouth is.


It's good that he supports them and instead of him worrying about who's dating who, he needs to put his focus towards the black colleges in Mississippi now because this is what the redneck governor of the state is trying to do.....

http://www.clarionledger....8/1263/RSS

Be sure to check out some of the comments in the forum directly underneath the article also. You'll see opposition and you'll also see comments straight from the trailer parks.
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Reply #88 posted 11/20/09 12:00pm

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SCNDLS said:

missfee said:


He can and has done that, but don't get on the radio preaching about "black this and black that" when you don't support all, and just some who in "your view" deserves funding if they go to a black college. There's no unity, always division and it really ticks me off.
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The HBCU situation is unique because they are in dire straits and "white" schools are gonna get their money regardless. Being an HBCU, by definition, means that if black folks don't attend they are going to become extinct. It makes total sense to me that he gives scholarships to those who support HBCUs if his goal is to keep them going. Black folks are constantly bitching about how we don't support our own and I have to give Tom credit for putting his money and time where his mouth is.


True. Gotta keep them alive. My mom was a graduate of a HBCU.
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Reply #89 posted 11/20/09 12:26pm

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SCNDLS said:

missfee said:


He can and has done that, but don't get on the radio preaching about "black this and black that" when you don't support all, and just some who in "your view" deserves funding if they go to a black college. There's no unity, always division and it really ticks me off.
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The HBCU situation is unique because they are in dire straits and "white" schools are gonna get their money regardless. Being an HBCU, by definition, means that if black folks don't attend they are going to become extinct. It makes total sense to me that he gives scholarships to those who support HBCUs if his goal is to keep them going. Black folks are constantly bitching about how we don't support our own and I have to give Tom credit for putting his money and time where his mouth is.

I get where you and everybody else on this position is coming from, but I still disagree with the just giving to "those who soley attend HBCU" scholarships, it should be for all AA's no matter what school they go to,if that's his goal. Just my opinion. Like I said before, the arguement isn't that he shouldn't give to HBCU's, that I applaud him for, my issue was the scholarship thing. But I can agree to disagree thumbs up!
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