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Reply #30 posted 11/05/09 12:18pm

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Exactly. I saw a documentary on him a few years ago. He grew up in The South (I'm thinking Alabama because he was originally supposed to be in The Commodores but Lionel Richie took his place instead). Anyway, after hearing about his experiences that he faced firsthand in those days due to racism, I can totally understand and sympathize with a lot of the way he feels about white people. I don't agree with all of it but I can certainly understand why he feels the way he feels.. But what is absolutely rediculous, is to have a problem with interracial dating or marriage. That's not hating a white person for what they have done to you, that's hating all white people simply because they are white, whether they are prejudiced or not. That's putting the white person dating or married to a black person in the same category as a damn racist and I find it highly offensive considering that most of my relationships, sex partners, and friendships have been with black people. Not to mention, I have a sister married to a black man.

But what tripped me out, is when he interviewed Teena Marie. He kissed her ass all up and down that morning. Yeah, everybody knows Teena is cool and I'm a huge admirer of her because she was dating interracially back when it unheard of and even on the dangerous side. Yeah, she's more than proven herself but he seems to have his picks and chooses and he seems two-faced to me. I guarantee you, if Teena didn't have a huge black following, he'd throw her under the bus too.

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Sorry white people can be made fun just like everybody else. I sometime wonder if Richard Pryor were around today would people even get where he was coming from.


Who said anything about making fun of white people? He seems to personally have a problem with interracial dating and doesn't mind expressing it over the air. I guarantee you if Rick Dees, Kasey Kasem, or whoever the biggest white radio jock is nowadays (I don't know, so I just threw two names in there) asked the question to callers...."Call in if you just KNOW someone is dating a black person but you can't prove it"....I bet there would be a backlash from hell. But see, with Tom Joyner, the majority of the white people, if any, that listen to his show and those like me so no, he's not offending the enemy because they aren't listening to his show to begin with. He's offending the type of white people that are on his side. Come to think of it, he seems more like a fucking idiot than anything else if he can't see that.
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Reply #31 posted 11/05/09 12:37pm

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Who said anything about making fun of white people? He seems to personally have a problem with interracial dating and doesn't mind expressing it over the air. I guarantee you if Rick Dees, Kasey Kasem, or whoever the biggest white radio jock is nowadays (I don't know, so I just threw two names in there) asked the question to callers...."Call in if you just KNOW someone is dating a black person but you can't prove it"....I bet there would be a backlash from hell. But see, with Tom Joyner, the majority of the white people, if any, that listen to his show and those like me so no, he's not offending the enemy because they aren't listening to his show to begin with. He's offending the type of white people that are on his side. Come to think of it, he seems more like a fucking idiot than anything else if he can't see that.
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Alright I guess your not taking the time to read my post about what Tom was doing. He was making fun of racisim in general not being racist. In addtion, the previous poster mentioned that it was not cool to make fun of white people. I am saying white folks are open to made fun of just like everybody else.


In addtion, once again Howard Stern has make all sorts of racist statements and Don Imus made racist and sexist comments and is now back on the air.
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Reply #32 posted 11/05/09 12:59pm

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laurarichardson said:

vainandy said:



Who said anything about making fun of white people? He seems to personally have a problem with interracial dating and doesn't mind expressing it over the air. I guarantee you if Rick Dees, Kasey Kasem, or whoever the biggest white radio jock is nowadays (I don't know, so I just threw two names in there) asked the question to callers...."Call in if you just KNOW someone is dating a black person but you can't prove it"....I bet there would be a backlash from hell. But see, with Tom Joyner, the majority of the white people, if any, that listen to his show and those like me so no, he's not offending the enemy because they aren't listening to his show to begin with. He's offending the type of white people that are on his side. Come to think of it, he seems more like a fucking idiot than anything else if he can't see that.
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Alright I guess your not taking the time to read my post about what Tom was doing. He was making fun of racisim in general not being racist. In addtion, the previous poster mentioned that it was not cool to make fun of white people. I am saying white folks are open to made fun of just like everybody else.


In addtion, once again Howard Stern has make all sorts of racist statements and Don Imus made racist and sexist comments and is now back on the air.


It wouldn't bother me if he was just making blanket racist statements against white people in general because, yes, there are a lot of racist white assholes and they need someone to put a foot in their ass and deserve it. Plus, I know there are always exceptions and I am definately an exception. But to go after people for dating interracially, that is going after the exceptions. With so many white racists in the world, isn't a white person who not only isn't racist, but loves black folks so much that they would date or marry them, isn't that a step in the right direction? So what's his fucking problem then? Is it because he believes in "sticking to your own kind" or "keeping your own race pure"? That's the same thinking of the Ku Klux Klan but in reverse.
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Reply #33 posted 11/05/09 6:04pm

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I never listened to TJMS much except for the sky shows. It's just too early for so much silliness. J Anthony Brown annoys me because he tries too hard to make everything a damn joke, even serious stories.

I could see why whites would be offended too...that skit he had called "ask D. Whiteman" portrayed all whites as ignorant rednecks.

I also didn't like the way Tom treated J. after he criticized Tavis Smiley.
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Reply #34 posted 11/05/09 6:11pm

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Tom Joyner is alright with me. I dig J.Anthony Brown
adding his comedic touch to the show better.


Ugh I can't stand him @ J. Anthony Brown lol He USED to be alright... lol


Cool. I'm a lil biased too when it comes to J.Anthony Brown.
He's from my hometown. Got to meet him once and he's a cool
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Reply #35 posted 11/05/09 9:43pm

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Tom Joyner is an asshole. He lets his personal beliefs cloud the music. For example, he wont play R. Kelly or Chris Brown because of their personal issues. Tom, you aint the judge or jury, but you will play music that encourages kids to drink, have sex and get high.

U haven't heard, he's back 2 playing R. and Chris. I think the record label may have had something to do with it, but he played R. and Chris again this morning (both of their new songs).
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Reply #36 posted 11/05/09 9:47pm

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I used to listen to the Sky Show every Friday morning and I used to record a lot of them also. I also used to enjoy the "Old School Breakfast Mix" every Tuesday and Thursday morning until they started mixing the old with the new. When he stopped having the old groups perform on Friday mornings, that's when I stopped listening.

As for Tom the person, I can't stand him and don't listen to him at all if I can help it. It was very hard not to listen to him when he was delivering the funk but since he stopped having good music on his show, it was very easy to tune him out. I consider him a black racist and have no time for him.
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Reply #37 posted 11/05/09 9:53pm

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Who said anything about making fun of white people? He seems to personally have a problem with interracial dating and doesn't mind expressing it over the air. I guarantee you if Rick Dees, Kasey Kasem, or whoever the biggest white radio jock is nowadays (I don't know, so I just threw two names in there) asked the question to callers...."Call in if you just KNOW someone is dating a black person but you can't prove it"....I bet there would be a backlash from hell. But see, with Tom Joyner, the majority of the white people, if any, that listen to his show and those like me so no, he's not offending the enemy because they aren't listening to his show to begin with. He's offending the type of white people that are on his side. Come to think of it, he seems more like a fucking idiot than anything else if he can't see that.
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Alright I guess your not taking the time to read my post about what Tom was doing. He was making fun of racisim in general not being racist. In addtion, the previous poster mentioned that it was not cool to make fun of white people. I am saying white folks are open to made fun of just like everybody else.


In addtion, once again Howard Stern has make all sorts of racist statements and Don Imus made racist and sexist comments and is now back on the air.
Tom Joyner is not making fun of racism. He mentions white people in some negative form damn near every day. I love the times where someone calls in and calls him on his shit. I also hate how he tears down people every.damn.day. and Jay Anthony Brown is one irritating unfunny motherfucker.
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Reply #38 posted 11/05/09 10:55pm

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Exactly. I saw a documentary on him a few years ago. He grew up in The South (I'm thinking Alabama because he was originally supposed to be in The Commodores but Lionel Richie took his place instead). Anyway, after hearing about his experiences that he faced firsthand in those days due to racism, I can totally understand and sympathize with a lot of the way he feels about white people. I don't agree with all of it but I can certainly understand why he feels the way he feels.. But what is absolutely rediculous, is to have a problem with interracial dating or marriage. That's not hating a white person for what they have done to you, that's hating all white people simply because they are white, whether they are prejudiced or not. That's putting the white person dating or married to a black person in the same category as a damn racist and I find it highly offensive considering that most of my relationships, sex partners, and friendships have been with black people. Not to mention, I have a sister married to a black man.

But what tripped me out, is when he interviewed Teena Marie. He kissed her ass all up and down that morning. Yeah, everybody knows Teena is cool and I'm a huge admirer of her because she was dating interracially back when it unheard of and even on the dangerous side. Yeah, she's more than proven herself but he seems to have his picks and chooses and he seems two-faced to me. I guarantee you, if Teena didn't have a huge black following, he'd throw her under the bus too.


But that is only because Tom Joyner still thinks that Teena is mixed race. But I would love to know if Tom would have kissed the ass of Michael McDonald like that.

And mind you, Michael's has a black pass as big as Teena's. And he is white.
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Reply #39 posted 11/05/09 11:24pm

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I don't know why Tom would think Teena is mixed. I didn't even know that was in question. I don't usually get up early enough to listen to his show in the morning,but when I did, J Anthony Brown got on my last nerve especially when, as someone pointed out earlier, he tried to make a joke out of everything,even serious stories.
Back to the original point, though, when he dances on stage with all the performers, I think he's just having fun and I love that! Most people would do the same thing given the opportunity.
I saw Tom Joyner at an outdoor summer festival in Philly a couple of years ago and I've never seen anyone mix with the crowd, sign autographs and take pictures with as many fans as he did. He was really cool that very hot day.
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Reply #40 posted 11/06/09 3:54am

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I don't care for Tom Joyner at all. I think he's full of himself. Most of all, I hate how he rallies for all African American students going to college to go to a HBCU. Nothing wrong with going to an HBCU, but why is it that they have to go to a HBCU in order for you to offer them a scholarship? Shit is rediculous. He should give scholarships no matter what school they go to, HBCU, prestigious or private. And he loves to big up all those who did go to an HBCU...its almost like he's saying "ya'll that didn't chose to attend and graduate from an HBCU aren't black enough"....rolleyes He's a dickhead.
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Reply #41 posted 11/06/09 4:40am

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missfee said:

I don't care for Tom Joyner at all. I think he's full of himself. Most of all, I hate how he rallies for all African American students going to college to go to a HBCU. Nothing wrong with going to an HBCU, but why is it that they have to go to a HBCU in order for you to offer them a scholarship? Shit is rediculous. He should give scholarships no matter what school they go to, HBCU, prestigious or private. And he loves to big up all those who did go to an HBCU...its almost like he's saying "ya'll that didn't chose to attend and graduate from an HBCU aren't black enough"....rolleyes He's a dickhead.


HBCU have the highest gradution rates and African-American graduate students who are products of HGCU make up the majority of graduate degrees recieved (MS, J.D MBA, PhD, MD) from "historically white colleges and universities". I think Mr. Joyer is a graduate of HBCU, you support your own.... when we couldn't or weren't allowed to go anywhere else. Most of my family are products of HBCU, my parents would have never been able to go to anyones university nor my brothers. .

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Reply #42 posted 11/06/09 7:13am

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vainandy said:



Exactly. I saw a documentary on him a few years ago. He grew up in The South (I'm thinking Alabama because he was originally supposed to be in The Commodores but Lionel Richie took his place instead). Anyway, after hearing about his experiences that he faced firsthand in those days due to racism, I can totally understand and sympathize with a lot of the way he feels about white people. I don't agree with all of it but I can certainly understand why he feels the way he feels.. But what is absolutely rediculous, is to have a problem with interracial dating or marriage. That's not hating a white person for what they have done to you, that's hating all white people simply because they are white, whether they are prejudiced or not. That's putting the white person dating or married to a black person in the same category as a damn racist and I find it highly offensive considering that most of my relationships, sex partners, and friendships have been with black people. Not to mention, I have a sister married to a black man.

But what tripped me out, is when he interviewed Teena Marie. He kissed her ass all up and down that morning. Yeah, everybody knows Teena is cool and I'm a huge admirer of her because she was dating interracially back when it unheard of and even on the dangerous side. Yeah, she's more than proven herself but he seems to have his picks and chooses and he seems two-faced to me. I guarantee you, if Teena didn't have a huge black following, he'd throw her under the bus too.


But that is only because Tom Joyner still thinks that Teena is mixed race. But I would love to know if Tom would have kissed the ass of Michael McDonald like that.

And mind you, Michael's has a black pass as big as Teena's. And he is white.

I guess Tom has kissed the ass of Michael McDonald. He had Michael on his cruise last year. Michael was featured on "White Night". During "White Night", they had AWB, Michael McDonald, and Teena. There were a few others, but I know these were the headliners.
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Reply #43 posted 11/06/09 7:19am

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TD3 said:

missfee said:

I don't care for Tom Joyner at all. I think he's full of himself. Most of all, I hate how he rallies for all African American students going to college to go to a HBCU. Nothing wrong with going to an HBCU, but why is it that they have to go to a HBCU in order for you to offer them a scholarship? Shit is rediculous. He should give scholarships no matter what school they go to, HBCU, prestigious or private. And he loves to big up all those who did go to an HBCU...its almost like he's saying "ya'll that didn't chose to attend and graduate from an HBCU aren't black enough"....rolleyes He's a dickhead.


HBCU have the highest gradution rates and African-American graduate students who are products of HGCU make up the majority of graduate degrees recieved (MS, J.D MBA, PhD, MD) from "historically white colleges and universities". I think Mr. Joyer is a graduate of HBCU, you support your own.... when we couldn't or weren't allowed to go anywhere else. Most of my family are products of HBCU, my parents would have never been able to go to anyones university nor my brothers. .

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You are correct. Tom, himself, is a product of a HBCU. He graduated from Tuskegee. He actually graduated with Lionel Richie. They were actually in the Commodores (before they were the Commodores) together. They talk about it on air when ever they get together.

I love the fact that Tom supports HBCUs. I really like the fact that he doesn't just support the BIG ones (Morehouse, Grambling, etc.). He also concentrates on the small HBCUs. He has featured Texas College in Tyler, Texas as well as Wiley College in Marshall, Texas and Jarvis Christian College in Hawkins, Texas. Those towns and schools are close to where I grew up and need all of the help they can get.

All of my family members are products of HBCUs. They had to go to HBCUs because they weren't allowed to go to other universities.
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Reply #44 posted 11/06/09 7:31am

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Tom Joyner is an asshole. He lets his personal beliefs cloud the music. For example, he wont play R. Kelly or Chris Brown because of their personal issues. Tom, you aint the judge or jury, but you will play music that encourages kids to drink, have sex and get high.


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Reply #45 posted 11/06/09 8:15am

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Alright I guess your not taking the time to read my post about what Tom was doing. He was making fun of racisim in general not being racist. In addtion, the previous poster mentioned that it was not cool to make fun of white people. I am saying white folks are open to made fun of just like everybody else.


In addtion, once again Howard Stern has make all sorts of racist statements and Don Imus made racist and sexist comments and is now back on the air.
Tom Joyner is not making fun of racism. He mentions white people in some negative form damn near every day. I love the times where someone calls in and calls him on his shit. I also hate how he tears down people every.damn.day. and Jay Anthony Brown is one irritating unfunny motherfucker.

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Once again I am not a hugh fan of Tom Joyner I think a lot his humor is country and corny but hardly racist or mean-spirtited.

I can only reference the routine concerning "interacial dating" because I actually remember this bit. He was obvisouly clowing black people who try and hide that they are dating "white people" which is ridculous and stupid.

Black folks were the butt of the joke during this routine and I don't really see why anyone thinks white folks can never be mentioned in a "negative light" or made fun of.

Gee it is not like you don't see "black folk" ridiculed in the mass media everyday.

The point is all racist do stupid things and in comedy it is open season for any group.
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Reply #46 posted 11/06/09 8:18am

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missfee said:

I don't care for Tom Joyner at all. I think he's full of himself. Most of all, I hate how he rallies for all African American students going to college to go to a HBCU. Nothing wrong with going to an HBCU, but why is it that they have to go to a HBCU in order for you to offer them a scholarship? Shit is rediculous. He should give scholarships no matter what school they go to, HBCU, prestigious or private. And he loves to big up all those who did go to an HBCU...its almost like he's saying "ya'll that didn't chose to attend and graduate from an HBCU aren't black enough"....rolleyes He's a dickhead.


HBCU have the highest gradution rates and African-American graduate students who are products of HGCU make up the majority of graduate degrees recieved (MS, J.D MBA, PhD, MD) from "historically white colleges and universities". I think Mr. Joyer is a graduate of HBCU, you support your own.... when we couldn't or weren't allowed to go anywhere else. Most of my family are products of HBCU, my parents would have never been able to go to anyones university nor my brothers. .

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Reply #47 posted 11/06/09 8:35am

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Why all the hate 4 T.J.?
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Reply #48 posted 11/06/09 8:39am

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laurarichardson said:

Vendetta1 said:

Tom Joyner is not making fun of racism. He mentions white people in some negative form damn near every day. I love the times where someone calls in and calls him on his shit. I also hate how he tears down people every.damn.day. and Jay Anthony Brown is one irritating unfunny motherfucker.

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Once again I am not a hugh fan of Tom Joyner I think a lot his humor is country and corny but hardly racist or mean-spirtited.

I can only reference the routine concerning "interacial dating" because I actually remember this bit. He was obvisouly clowing black people who try and hide that they are dating "white people" which is ridculous and stupid.

Black folks were the butt of the joke during this routine and I don't really see why anyone thinks white folks can never be mentioned in a "negative light" or made fun of.

Gee it is not like you don't see "black folk" ridiculed in the mass media everyday.

The point is all racist do stupid things and in comedy it is open season for any group.


Yes, but this thread is about Tom Joyner, isn't it?
He's not just making jokes about white folks. On his show, there is a subtle, sometimes open racism displayed towards whites. I'm the last person to complain about racial jokes - I love Richard Pryor, and I love the movie Undercover Brother. Both are quite funny, and they target both races.
Tom Joyner isn't funny. I've heard him make racially charged comments towards whites, and there was nothing funny about that. Fuck him. He needs to get with the times, just as white racists need to do.
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laurarichardson said:

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HBCU have the highest gradution rates and African-American graduate students who are products of HGCU make up the majority of graduate degrees recieved (MS, J.D MBA, PhD, MD) from "historically white colleges and universities". I think Mr. Joyer is a graduate of HBCU, you support your own.... when we couldn't or weren't allowed to go anywhere else. Most of my family are products of HBCU, my parents would have never been able to go to anyones university nor my brothers. .

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But what about the ones who can afford to go to a white school? I'm african american and everybody in my family, with the exception of one, attended white universities, so that is supposed to make us bad because we didn't go to HBCU's or something? In my family it wasn't important to go to an HBCU, it was important to go to COLLEGE period. It didn't matter where, just the fact that you went and finished with a degree. There are plenty of successful African Americans out here who are successful and didn't go to HBCU's as well. Like I said before, this not a rant against HBCU's, I never said that it was bad to attend them, my thing is, why does there have to be such a division between "oh you went to an HBCU" or "you went to a white school"? That is my question.
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missfee said:

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.Co-Sign in some cases HBCU are the only schools some people can afford and these schools have legacy families and alumni just like Catholic, Jewish, Baptist Colleges

But what about the ones who can afford to go to a white school? I'm african american and everybody in my family, with the exception of one, attended white universities, so that is supposed to make us bad because we didn't go to HBCU's or something? In my family it wasn't important to go to an HBCU, it was important to go to COLLEGE period. It didn't matter where, just the fact that you went and finished with a degree. There are plenty of successful African Americans out here who are successful and didn't go to HBCU's as well. Like I said before, this not a rant against HBCU's, I never said that it was bad to attend them, my thing is, why does there have to be such a division between "oh you went to an HBCU" or "you went to a white school"? That is my question.
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I agree with you. I'm an African American also and my cousin who went to a HBCU tends to look down on my degree and my brother's degree because we didn't attend a HBCU. It ticks me off.

I don't have any problems with people choosing to go to HBCU's. I support them. My parents are both graduates of HBCUs. I just think people are free to attend whatever university they want and not be looked at as sell outs or looked down upon.
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Reply #51 posted 11/06/09 10:00am

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laurarichardson said:


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.Co-Sign in some cases HBCU are the only schools some people can afford and these schools have legacy families and alumni just like Catholic, Jewish, Baptist Colleges

But what about the ones who can afford to go to a white school? I'm african american and everybody in my family, with the exception of one, attended white universities, so that is supposed to make us bad because we didn't go to HBCU's or something? In my family it wasn't important to go to an HBCU, it was important to go to COLLEGE period. It didn't matter where, just the fact that you went and finished with a degree. There are plenty of successful African Americans out here who are successful and didn't go to HBCU's as well. Like I said before, this not a rant against HBCU's, I never said that it was bad to attend them, my thing is, why does there have to be such a division between "oh you went to an HBCU" or "you went to a white school"? That is my question.
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I did not go 2 an hbcu either, but Tj has the right 2 give his money 2 any school that he chooses 2.
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Reply #52 posted 11/06/09 10:09am

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there are other radio personalitys who are far worse than tom joyner so please ease up on old tom okay.
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Graycap23 said:

missfee said:


But what about the ones who can afford to go to a white school? I'm african american and everybody in my family, with the exception of one, attended white universities, so that is supposed to make us bad because we didn't go to HBCU's or something? In my family it wasn't important to go to an HBCU, it was important to go to COLLEGE period. It didn't matter where, just the fact that you went and finished with a degree. There are plenty of successful African Americans out here who are successful and didn't go to HBCU's as well. Like I said before, this not a rant against HBCU's, I never said that it was bad to attend them, my thing is, why does there have to be such a division between "oh you went to an HBCU" or "you went to a white school"? That is my question.
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I did not go 2 an hbcu either, but Tj has the right 2 give his money 2 any school that he chooses 2.

He can and has done that, but don't get on the radio preaching about "black this and black that" when you don't support all, and just some who in "your view" deserves funding if they go to a black college. There's no unity, always division and it really ticks me off.
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missfee said:


But what about the ones who can afford to go to a white school? I'm african american and everybody in my family, with the exception of one, attended white universities, so that is supposed to make us bad because we didn't go to HBCU's or something? In my family it wasn't important to go to an HBCU, it was important to go to COLLEGE period. It didn't matter where, just the fact that you went and finished with a degree. There are plenty of successful African Americans out here who are successful and didn't go to HBCU's as well. Like I said before, this not a rant against HBCU's, I never said that it was bad to attend them, my thing is, why does there have to be such a division between "oh you went to an HBCU" or "you went to a white school"? That is my question.
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I agree with you. I'm an African American also and my cousin who went to a HBCU tends to look down on my degree and my brother's degree because we didn't attend a HBCU. It ticks me off.

I don't have any problems with people choosing to go to HBCU's. I support them. My parents are both graduates of HBCUs. I just think people are free to attend whatever university they want and not be looked at as sell outs or looked down upon.

Thats my point exactly. So why not make a scholarship for those who want to attend any university? I mean, there is really no answer for my question unless I ask Mr. Tom Joyner myself, but I just find that to be a major problem. It creates more division than anything. Yes HBCU's need all the funding they can get, and I'm not at all knocking his support of them, I think it's great, but as far as the scholarship thing, that's my beef with him.
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missfee said:

Graycap23 said:


I did not go 2 an hbcu either, but Tj has the right 2 give his money 2 any school that he chooses 2.

He can and has done that, but don't get on the radio preaching about "black this and black that" when you don't support all, and just some who in "your view" deserves funding if they go to a black college. There's no unity, always division and it really ticks me off.
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Those schools are under funded and under attended.
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Reply #56 posted 11/06/09 10:55am

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missfee said:

daPrettyman said:



I agree with you. I'm an African American also and my cousin who went to a HBCU tends to look down on my degree and my brother's degree because we didn't attend a HBCU. It ticks me off.

I don't have any problems with people choosing to go to HBCU's. I support them. My parents are both graduates of HBCUs. I just think people are free to attend whatever university they want and not be looked at as sell outs or looked down upon.

Thats my point exactly. So why not make a scholarship for those who want to attend any university? I mean, there is really no answer for my question unless I ask Mr. Tom Joyner myself, but I just find that to be a major problem. It creates more division than anything. Yes HBCU's need all the funding they can get, and I'm not at all knocking his support of them, I think it's great, but as far as the scholarship thing, that's my beef with him.


I'm not defending him, but I do know that he has given money to listeners through the "Thursday Morning Mom" and "Father's Day" portions of the show that are in college. I don't think it's through the TJ Foundation, it's more like giving them $1000 to help out. I know that's not much, though.
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.Co-Sign in some cases HBCU are the only schools some people can afford and these schools have legacy families and alumni just like Catholic, Jewish, Baptist Colleges

But what about the ones who can afford to go to a white school? I'm african american and everybody in my family, with the exception of one, attended white universities, so that is supposed to make us bad because we didn't go to HBCU's or something? In my family it wasn't important to go to an HBCU, it was important to go to COLLEGE period. It didn't matter where, just the fact that you went and finished with a degree. There are plenty of successful African Americans out here who are successful and didn't go to HBCU's as well. Like I said before, this not a rant against HBCU's, I never said that it was bad to attend them, my thing is, why does there have to be such a division between "oh you went to an HBCU" or "you went to a white school"? That is my question.
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"But what about the ones who can afford to go to a white school? I'm african american and everybody in my family, with the exception of one, attended white universities, so that is supposed to make us bad because we didn't go to HBCU's or something?"

I don't think Tom or anyone thinks that black people that go to white schools are bad and people are free to go where they please. I don't think Tom is giving money to students who are going the HBCU to divide I really think it is because they are so underfunded that they do not give out a lot of full free rides.
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Once again I am not a hugh fan of Tom Joyner I think a lot his humor is country and corny but hardly racist or mean-spirtited.

I can only reference the routine concerning "interacial dating" because I actually remember this bit. He was obvisouly clowing black people who try and hide that they are dating "white people" which is ridculous and stupid.

Black folks were the butt of the joke during this routine and I don't really see why anyone thinks white folks can never be mentioned in a "negative light" or made fun of.

Gee it is not like you don't see "black folk" ridiculed in the mass media everyday.

The point is all racist do stupid things and in comedy it is open season for any group.


Yes, but this thread is about Tom Joyner, isn't it?
He's not just making jokes about white folks. On his show, there is a subtle, sometimes open racism displayed towards whites. I'm the last person to complain about racial jokes - I love Richard Pryor, and I love the movie Undercover Brother. Both are quite funny, and they target both races.
Tom Joyner isn't funny. I've heard him make racially charged comments towards whites, and there was nothing funny about that. Fuck him. He needs to get with the times, just as white racists need to do.

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I am discussing Tom Joyner and the bit was directed at black folks and their foolishnees not white folks. I guess reading in not fundamental for some people.
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Reply #59 posted 11/09/09 2:15pm

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was just watchin Tom's "Sky Show"....

Maybe cause I'm an old guy (42).....but 2 things seem to occur to me....

1.) Tom makes an ass of himself.....lol.

2.) How cool would it be to make an ass of ourselves with the HUGE list of old school band that Tom has brought to us over the years (watched him party on-stage with fucking Cameo this week alone for instance)

Just curious what ya'll think of Tom. I think he's the goods....in spite of himself..wink



funny you mentioned him because my husband is always pointing out how he's always dancing on stage with the bands and it's embarrassing to watch but i think he's cool and harmless lol!


He gets completely caught up in a time warp lol
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