Timmy84 said:

Shit i'm going to need two boxes.

vainandy said:

I can't even remember the last time MTV or VHI concentrated on music or videos. and every music awards show except country is dominated by hip hop now...that's when they lost me.

Hell, I had to get satellite radio to get a radio station that even plays soul music anymore.

phunkdaddy said:

I put mustard on mine.

ernestsewell said:

I think your contrasts of the two presents somewhat of a false analogy considering that Prince is over 50 and has been in the game at least 15 years longer than Maxwell. Seriously, how many 50-year-old, near 50 or over 50 artists are competing on the charts with 30-something artists regardless of the quality of their work? Prince is no different than any other legend. They are respected for their legendary status and the mainstream listens to the past work more than their current work no matter how great or lackluster the current work is.

Maxwell's fanbase has not followed him for as long or through as many albums and reincarnations as Prince's fanbase, so again, your comparison is flawed. The future remains to be seen with regard to how relevant Maxwell will be to his fanbase in another 15 years or if he will still even be releasing new music and performing then. It took him 8 years to release this new album, so he should have 3 albums of material, especially considering that there are only 9 tracks on this album.

Also, regardless of relevance and chart success, Prince can still sell out arenas based on his name and reputation. However, Maxwell, who is, as has been stated here, having a fantastic comeback year still cannot sell out the arenas where he is playing.

I think both artists are great. In fact, the only two albums I bought this year were Lotusflow3r and Blacksummersnight. However, I just think that you should be more accurate when making an argument for it to be effective.

vainandy said:

Can I ask why you strongly disagree than Maxwell is a better singer than Prince? I am a big Prince fan, but not one of the loonies. I can still honestly assess his talents and limitations.

I ask this because yesterday, while discussing why I enjoyed "This Is It," someone said to me that they thought Prince was a better musician and songwriter than MJ but that MJ was a better singer and performer. I admitted that I didn't know much of MJ beyond his hits but that I thought Prince had more range and was a better singer because he has made full use of his range in different styles throughout his career. Although, I can understand how the casual Prince fan might not agree with that assessment based on his hits alone.

However, Prince's range and use of it is one of the reasons why I would say he was an even better singer than Maxwell. Although, I do think Maxwell is one of the best ever with regard to his tone, delivery and falsetto when he is in top form.

Graycap23 said:

Mary Mary didn't show up.
I guess Yolanda Adams had to hold it down for the night!

bellanoche said:

I wonder the same thing but I can't really say who's better unless we're talking about somebody like Lutha,

I don't know about Andy but I like different singers for different reasons. With Prince, I like the way he uses his voice to convey emotion and I love his tone. Maxwell's voice is pretty but doesn't move me the same way. With MJ, I notice that when he's singing well his voice has a beautiful clarity.

I wasn't going to see the movie but my friend begged me to go with her, so I did. Most of the time Mike wasn't going full force singing but when he did he was on the money and his voice was totally beautiful and clear as a bell, which I didn't expect.
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I'm a sucker for a great falsetto. I absolutely love a falsetto and I love a screamer too. Prince can turn it out in that department and he's got a sassiness to it also. However, Sylvester and Philip Bailey could give him a run for his money and Wayne Cooper from Cameo might even could whip his ass.

babynoz said:

I agree with you about MJ. His voice is very clear when it is in top form. That was one of my favorite parts of the movie - seeing and hearing him sing live again even if not full force. I prefer a good live voice to a great recorded one any day when it comes to a concert. His voice was still there, which I REALLY enjoyed hearing. At one point, I thought he was going to chuuurch, but he held back. I have never heard MJ "go there," so I would have loved to see him do it but I know he was saving his voice.

vainandy said:

I love all the falsettos that you named as well. Wayne Cooper is very underrated. However, I listen to songs like "We're Going Out Tonight" and his falsetto gives me chills.

I love that one. When I first heard it, I thought it was a duet between a man and a woman.

BlaqueKnight said:

I agree that Max is a better vocalist plus I think D'angelo is also but Prince is more versitile than both of them vocally being effective doing jazz,gospel, r&b rock & pop.

vainandy said:

yeah ol wayne was a beast until I bought the cameosis album and saw the cover I thought cameo had a female member ( which is also what I thought first time I heard Prince's "soft and wet")

daingermouz2020 said:

It's funny that you think that D'Angelo is a better vocalist. Awhile ago my sister said she used to think that D'Angelo was a better vocalist than he really is. She said after listening to his stuff heavily and analyzing it more she realized that he does a lot of "talk" singing. She also pointed out that he sometimes struggles with his voice live, though Maxwell struggled when I saw him a few weeks ago as well. I've never seen Prince struggle with his voice, but it's probably because he's had enough experience to know how to adjust it.

daingermouz2020 said:

Go listen to Max's unplugged EP. Remember, he's an R&B artist. Listen to his gospel take on a Nine Inch Nails song, "Gotta Get:Closer". Listen to his rearrangements of "This Woman's Work" (Bush), and even his own "Ascension". His voice is pure, clean, and spot on. Go listen to "Temporary Night" from the NOW album.

Prince doing jazz isn't about singing (there's no singing on Xpectation, N.E.W.S., Madhouse, etc), it's about him being uber bored and sharing that boredom with the masses. When Prince releases a CD of old standards, then we can judge his ability on singing jazz.

That's not all to say Max is more versatile than Prince, but to say he's not is unfair, and untrue.

bellanoche said:

Ha...you caught that too. He definitely went there.

I can't wait to see this! I hear the Chaka Khan tribute was off the hook, with Badu, Angie Stone and Fantasia.

http://www.daylife.com/ph...31a33jWbmZ

kitbradley said:

Chaka was getting honored?! Y'all tell me when she'll appear when the show airs.

bellanoche said:

I suppose that depends which D'angelo songs you were listening to. tracks like "Brown Sugar",Devil's Pie",I can possibly see your point but what about songs like "Crusin" "Higher", "Spanish Joint", "Send It On"& "Girl You Need A Change of Mind"? Clearly singing to me.

Im not sure what he would sound like now.

ernestsewell said:

What about tracks like "Under the Cherry Moon" Strollin" Courtin Time"? All clearly jazz numbers to me and very different almost as if we have three different artist on each track if that is not versitility then what is?



But Mad props to both D and Max in the relm of R&B Vocalist
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Layzie said:

daingermouz2020 said:

LOLOLOL Okay then. If you say so.

I'm not going to speculate why this or that star doesn't show up at an award show but if we are going to compare Prince's "relevancy" to Maxwell I should mention that I've NEVER heard a Maxwell song on the radio nor have seen any of his videos on TV. The only reason I've heard about him is because he's being talked about on the org and I think I saw his face in Rolling Stone magazine once or twice. Meanwhile, here are some Prince tracks from the last 5 years that have had at least moderate or even heavy airplay on the biggest radio station where I live:
"Musicology"
"Cinnamon Girl"
"Te Amo Corazon"
"Fury"
"Guitar"
"Crimson and Clover"

If you would ask people on the street, at least where I live, about Maxwell's latest single, 99,99999% of people would reply: "Maxwell who?"

^ I've never known Maxwell to have a big crossover appeal/following nor have I known him to have any video play on a station other than BET or that other soulbox jukebox or whatever the fuck that channel is called. Anyway...he is mediocre when compared with Prince. Even on the last BET awards show where he did appear, it seemed he was not as well received as the now defunct Bell Biv Devoe.

I still like him though but uh....no surprise he a no-show.