Y'all all need Jesus, stop following the aluminum foil!

I demand this thread be...

Timmy84 said:

"Yes, where is little Miss Tiffany? I wish to have a few words with her"

I seriously cannot stand this mentality. You think if that were the case Chris wouldn't be yelling it all over town by now? Dude's posting soppy romantic vids on his twitter pining for her back and saying "I'm sorry for what I did, whatever that is".

There's zero evidence to suggest she abused him, there's a fucking ton of evidence to 100% prove he abused her yet this still isn't enough for some people.

purplesweat said:

You seem naive about this whole topic

What mentality? I don't understand all these double standards so I just pointed out that a woman can abuse a man too. I'm not saying what Chris did was right but there are two sides to this whole debacle. and no, Chris wouldn't run around town saying "She hit me!" people would just look at him funny. There are just too many double standards in this society. So no one would believe him.

purplesweat said:

You seem naive about this whole topic

What mentality? I don't understand all these double standards so I just pointed out that a woman can abuse a man too. I'm not saying what Chris did was right but there are two sides to this whole debacle. and no, Chris wouldn't run around town saying "She hit me!" people would just look at him funny. There are just too many double standards in this society. So no one would believe him.

purplesweat said:

You know you really need to shut the fuck up!!! Know what you are talking about before you open your mouth! I have been in a domestic violence incident before and it is the worst thing a person can experience and yes I was thankful to God for bringing me through it safe and alive-BITCH PLEASE!!! and on that note
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nurseV said:

Well, then why are you judging her so harshly? If you've been in that situation, why such a negative view of her?

purplesweat said:

Negative view of her? I have not once said anything bad about her-if saying that she may have contributed to it is wrong then OH WELL HELL!!! They're both wrong-the shit was messed up, but for you to sit on here and say the shit you are saying you should be ashamed I agree that you seem naive.
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midiscover said:

Why are you suspecting her? Why can't anyone just say "Yep, he abused her". It's always "I know what he did was wrong BUT....."

He was charged with his crime and there's pictorial evidence and a police report readily available on the internet. What more do you need and why do you suspect her based on literally nothing?

purplesweat said:

Literally nothing? are you serious?

Your acting like Rihanna's some helpless little angel. Hello! There's two sides to this whole thing. Why can't YOU believe that he might've been provoked? Why do you think Rihanna is the only victim in this whole debacle? Yes, the evidence shows that he molly whooped her and he left with no scars (I believe). There's still two sides.

midiscover said:

Because I don't believe in someone being "provoked". Yes, she could provoke ANGER but NOT abuse. Not suffocation and ear biting and head slamming against a dashboard. There is NO excuse or reason for that. I don't care what she did, the point is, he's a man and is automatically stronger than her, he has the advantage no matter what.

Plus, you'd think if she'd hit him first it'd be stated in the official police report. The report states she confronted him about cheating and he responded by first trying to shove her out of the moving vehicle then began bashing her up and threatening her life.

NO excuse.

nurseV said:

How are they both wrong? Why did you say she should get over it because she's alive?

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

U...aren't Prince. So U lose the education argument today.
wait didn't you lose it yesterday too....
have you ever really actually won an education argument on these boards....

let me put in terms u can understand....domestick violenz is rong, duh. I konkur.

purplesweat said:

You know-I'm gonna say this as nicely as I can being a nurse I know this to be true there are two things life and death and how you choose to live the life you've been given in between is up to you. I said she should be happy to be alive because it's true. Many people have went through violence and were not so lucky-life is precious. If she went through this and cannot learn from it or use it to help other abused people then the experience is worthless. I do agree with the poster that described that night-two people on there way to have a good time at the awards. Trust me something drastic had to happen to cause that violence. What it was we will probably never know.

purplesweat said:

Which proves my point- http://dictionary.referen...e+standard

This thread, and this topic in general in public discourse reaks of self-righteousness.

What the hell is street modeling?

LOS ANGELES - Rihanna's brutal beating at the hands of boyfriend Chris Brown left her humiliated, lonely and feeling like Britney Spears, the singer says.

"I felt like I went to sleep as Rihanna and woke up as Britney Spears," the singer told Glamour magazine in her first print interview since the February attack.

"That was the level of media chaos that happened the next day. It was like, What, there are helicopters circling my house? There are 100 people in my cul-de-sac? What do you mean, I can't go back home?"

Named one of Glamour's 2009 Women of the Year, Rihanna said her family, friends and fans were crucial, but she couldn't help feeling isolated after the assault.

"At some point you are there alone. It's a lonely place to be. No one can understand. That's when you get close to God," she said.

The leaked photo showing her bruised and battered face was another major blow.

"It was humiliating," she said. "That is not a photo you would show to anybody. I felt completely taken advantage of ... like people were making it into a fun topic on the Internet, and it's my life."

Still, the Barbados beauty said she's "stronger, wiser and more aware" as she enters a new chapter with her upcoming album "Rated R" due for release Nov. 23.

"Domestic violence is a big secret. No kid goes around and lets people know their parents fight. Teenage girls can't tell their parents that their boyfriend beat them up. You don't dare let your neighbor know that you fight. It's one of the things we will hide, because it's embarrassing," she said.

"My story was broadcast all over the world for people to see, and they have followed every step of my recovery. The positive thing that has come out of my situation is that people can learn from that. I want to give as much insight as I can to young women, because I feel like I represent a voice that really isn't heard."

Rihanna, 21, calls her new album "really personal."

"I've put everything I've wanted to say for the past eight months into my music," she said. "It's super fearless, which is exactly how I feel right now."

The singer opens up more in a TV interview with ABC News' Diane Sawyer set to air Thursday and Friday on "Good Morning America," and Friday night at 10 on "20/20."

Chris Brown fessed up to felony assault in June and must complete six months of community labor and five years' probation.

Like I've said before, I can believe Rihanna "started the fight" because I see cases like this in movies and on shows like Maury and Cheaters all the time. There is a type of woman who does not know how to fight but starts physically attacking a man over her anger regarding a bad relationship with him. Like Rihanna, they start to bravely push and slap men to cause pain, thinking that it's ok. Most men run away, but not all of them do, and once a man loses his mind and patience and reacts harshly, instead of continuing to fight, this type of woman flinches in fear and instantly becomes a victim of domestic abuse. All of her violent bravery disappears immediately. I can't empathize for these "innocent" women because their initial violence that started the situation is stupid in the first place, especially if the man is cheating and clearly does not care for them. A woman can "walk away" too once she discovers her man is not faithful instead of hitting him.

Yes, Chris Brown is very ignorant and has an impatient temper, but I still don't believe he is like Ike Turner: a man who starts fights with a woman who never attacks him unless she's defending herself from his initial abuse. If that was the case, Rihanna would have pressed charges, testified in court, and Brown would be in prison. And she definitely would not have waited until her album release to "represent abused women" and speak about this incident. On every news/blog site that has a post about this 20/20 interview, about 80% of people who leave comments are either incredulous about the whole situation, or are against her now. I wonder why.

Rihanna did not hit or even touch Brown, at first.

purplesweat said:

Prove it. And don't give me any bullshit about a police report - they weren't there and her side of the story was taken.
Nevermind. You can't.
You know what? It doesn't matter.
They both seem to be moving on with their lives. This is a non-issue as far as they are concerned.

There are no amounts of reports or pictures that can convince me to only look at one side of a story. There's always three sides, with the truth being the last one. Only they know the entire truth and that's probably how its always gonna be.

Harlepolis said:

I'm a legal advocate for victims of domestic abuse, I can almost assure that the brutal beating Ms. Fenty endured at the hands, fist, month and teeth of Mr. Brown wasn't the first time, he got caught.

Mr. Brown was charged and he plead guilty to -Two felonies, assault and making criminal threats. When Mr. Brown put his hands around Ms. Fenty neck and choked her to the point she lost consciousness, is scary. This is significant because choking is not just another element in a brutal attack, it is a harbinger of potential murder. Domestic violence victims who are chocked are at significant risk for being killed. The Women Health Study done in Chicago found that 12 percent of women whose partners choked them were later killed compared to 6 percent of women who had been attacked but not choked. In past decade many States have passed laws making choking, which includes strangulation, or suffocation as aggravated assault, in past it had been classified as a misdemeanor.

This nonsense there is more to the story... this is foolishness to the highest power. Mr. Brown could have filed counter charges of domestic abuse. Second option: Mr. Brown could have gone to trial and stated the attack on Ms. Fenty were due to mitigating circumstances. - (law) circumstances that does not exonerate a person but which reduces the penalty associated with the offense. None of this happened, there is no untold story and once again "playground rules" don't apply in a court of law.



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OFFICIAL Police Report:

http://www.thesmokinggun....rown4.html

First page says "VERBAL argument ensued". When he couldn't force her out of the vehicle he smashed her head against the window then punched her.

You can read the rest.

purplesweat said:

A police report is only as complete as the information that goes in it. I don't need to read a police report to know that until you have ALL sides of a story, you can't really get to the truth.
Keep your link; I'm not clicking it.
NO MATTER WHAT ANY OF YOU SAY, THERE IS NO AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THAT CAN MAKE ME LOOK AT ONLY ONE SIDE OF A STORY. PERIOD. IF YOU DO, THEN YOU ARE NOT GETTING THE WHOLE TRUTH. THAT IS FACT.
Again, like I said, its done and they are moving on.
They seem to both be gearing up for CD releases. If you would put half the energy into stopping them both from making more music as you all do trying to argue with everybody, maybe something POSITIVE could be accomplished.

First page says "VERBAL argument ensued". When he couldn't force her out of the vehicle he smashed her head against the window then punched her.

...maybe she should have, I dunno, gotten out the car. If I'm arguing with someone, and it's getting heatd to a point where they have the pull over and tell me to get the hell away from them, that's a clue.

I love Rihanna, think she's gorgeous, she's from Brabados as is my family (so I might know a lil sumthin' about Bajan women and their tempers) and I don't think she should've been hurt and I'm sad for her. BUT if she had the opportunity to leave and avoid the escalating situation, and didn't, then that is a damn shame.

She's famous, she can't go wandering the streets alone.

purplesweat said:

they had people and bodyguards following them on their way to the Grammy's.
she had a cell phone, call a friend, call a cab. hell, catch a ride with the paps if you have.