Important question: why are we talking about two artists whose guts we supposedly "hate" from just their music?

Where's Tiffany Evans when you need her? "THE DEVIL'S GOT YA!"

sad to say, people that "love" each other can do all sorts of heinous shit to each other.

And to me these 2 children, yes children, because they were living up a life and a lifestyle, thinking they were grown when they were not, and I truly believe in this case, they just got caught out there in something, thinking they were cute, and I think they both had some growing up to do and some valuable life lessons to learn, and I think truly neither one of them has learned a damn thing because the adults around them keep enabling their shit.

Chris Brown needs to get an education an truly own up to his shit.

And Rihanna needs to get an education and own up to her own shit.

Adults around them are jocking this for publicity and money and that is truly the horror of the whole situation, IMHO!

Chris acted like child but he is 19. He and Rihanna are both adults. What does Rihanna need to own up to? SHE is the VICTIM. To me the horror of the situation is a young girl was brutally beaten by a man she loved. THAT is the REAL tragedy. Get your priorities straight.
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and what part of it isn't clear, sweeties?

because I have been speaking comprehensible English all day.

I know reality and common sense are a hard sell sometimes, but reading is fundamental, and some of you should try it.

nurseV said:

What the hell? You realise he even bit her ears and suffocated her to the point of passing out? She only "walked away" because HE stopped eventually. How horrid of you to determine the seriousness of abuse by whether someone walks away from it or not.

so Chris Brown was 19....
he still isn't 21 to this day Christopher Maurice "Chris" Brown (born May 5, 1989)
no excuses, but age is googleable.

Rihanna just turned 21 the week or 2 after. So to me, that makes them children.

They were both acting like children. Hopefully they both grew up and learned something. What Chris Brown did was totally wrong, but at the same token, common sense kinda dictates that he wasn't just driving along in a Porsche, with his gorgeous girlfriend that he loved, on a night where they both should have been having a great time (Grammy night!) and all of a sudden he got this insane urge to kick her ass for no reason whatsoever. Something happened and Rihanna knows the truth and she should come out and speak the truth. I'm not saying he should have opened the can of whupass that he did, but I think most of us can see rationally that something is not clean with this story and never has been on Rihanna's part.
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scriptgirl said:

That's a very biased and not exactly accurate view. Calling her a "young girl" and him a "man" when she is older than he is shows this.
Also, calling her a victim without knowing all of the truth about how it all got started is also a bit biased. The way I see it, it was a fight. This DOES NOT mean that what Chris did was right - it was not. That does not make her an innocent party in it. Many times women have pushed men over the edge in life and then try to fall back and claim innocent. I don't remember her claiming to be innocent in all of this and I'm not convinced she was simply because of how it was all handled. I don't know - maybe Chris is a monster - maybe he's not. I'm certainly not starstruck and don't really like either of them musically. It just all seemed way too fishy for me to give Rhianna pity points.
I agree with BklynBabe - I don't think he snapped for no reason.

scriptgirl said:

It's nothing against Rihanna, but she has a temper also. It takes two to argue. Being around Rihanna, she's a tough girl, she's a tomboy, she plays rough. There's been times where she's slapped Chris. I'm not saying blame Chris, but Rihanna had a part in the incident also.

People excusing what he did by saying she started the argument remind me of those people that say 'but look what she was wearing/how she was acting, she was asking to be raped!'

you should try some education sweetie. there are plenty of websites of information on domestic violence. read up on it and educate urself on it, u sure need it.

From somebody who witnessed domestic violence up-close, the infamous mediatakeout pic indicate to me that this wasn't the 1st time he hit her.

You don't hit somebody like that the FIRST time.

And if it was a fight, I've yet to see pix of him looking bruised and ruined like her. He expressed himself with his fist more than with his nasal ass voice, thats for damn sure.

It means he did the wrong thing by not walking the hell away.
Let me repeat that: HE DID THE WRONG THING BY NOT WALKING AWAY.

Harlepolis said:

Those pictures only indicate the swelling from the blows; nothing more. Everything else is you drawing your own conclusions based around your experiences, not around anything else. Sorry, but I'm just being honest with you.



I see you've never been in a martial arts class. New students have the least amount of control.
Given that this was not the circumstance, I'm simply stating that as a point of reference where blows can come into play.




Just because he beat her up doesn't mean he wasn't struck or wasn't provoked. It means he did the wrong thing by not walking the hell away.
It seems like a lot of the women on this board are trying their damnedest to turn this dude into Ike Turner. He's young and with the right amount of counseling and guidance, he can be back on the right track. Some of you want to hang him for OTHER MENS'CRIMES and that's not right. Also, there's nothing that can be said about this whole situation now that will change anything. Anything she says tonight will have an agenda behind it. This is something that could have been addressed long before now but hasn't been, so its going to look opportunistic regardless. I'm willing to bet her conversation with the "journalist" is going to be scripted.

From somebody who witnessed domestic violence up-close, the infamous mediatakeout pic indicate to me that this wasn't the 1st time he hit her.

You don't hit somebody like that the FIRST time.

And if it was a fight, I've yet to see pix of him looking bruised and ruined like her. He expressed himself with his fist more than with his nasal ass voice, thats for damn sure.
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scriptgirl said:

That's a very biased and not exactly accurate view. Calling her a "young girl" and him a "man" when she is older than he is shows this.
Also, calling her a victim without knowing all of the truth about how it all got started is also a bit biased. The way I see it, it was a fight. This DOES NOT mean that what Chris did was right - it was not. That does not make her an innocent party in it. Many times women have pushed men over the edge in life and then try to fall back and claim innocent. I don't remember her claiming to be innocent in all of this and I'm not convinced she was simply because of how it was all handled. I don't know - maybe Chris is a monster - maybe he's not. I'm certainly not starstruck and don't really like either of them musically. It just all seemed way too fishy for me to give Rhianna pity points.
I agree with BklynBabe - I don't think he snapped for no reason.

purplesweat said:

Whatever! She's alive right? Ya'll need to stop making it seem like the girl is totally innocent Please something happened like others are saying to trigger all that violence and yes it was totally fucked up, but again I say there are two sides to the story.

Let's see how you feel when/if you get beaten up and, simply because you're alive, people say "Psh, suck it up, girl, you probably caused it anyway!"

You know Rihanna could've abused Chris too. I think most people view physical/mental abuse committed by woman toward men less serious.

and to be honest, before that night it seemed to me that he adored her, and she acted a bit uppity with him. He was not seen with other women. She did not have signs of abuse. It always seemed to me that she thought she had him wrapped around her little finger and could treat him any old way. If you look at the pictures of that night before it all went down, she keeps leaning all in his face, and he has the most weary aggravated face the whole evening.

choked? choking? cuz you are killing me with chock....

He didn't think his life was in danger or anything, he was just trying to "shut the bitch up". Are you happy now? I said it. She was running her mouth or whatever all fucking evening, and got on his last fucking nerve and he popped her one, and it was dead ass to rights wrong, and I'm sure that he feels like shit about it-both that he did it and that he got caught doing it, and now they are both dropping albums and making way more money than any of us, rehashing the same ole, same ole. Whoop de whoo. Omigod, this was not rocket science. I think he learned the hard way while he is young enough to get it that you can't go poppin' folk like that, and I bet she learned something too...don't push someone like that to the breaking point. I'm sure he "love tapped" her before and she was probably all hee-hee about it, sending him little nekkid pics on her camera phone and putting her panties on his head, thinking awww, this physicalness is kinda cute, and now they both found out the hard way, that shit ain't cute! And lots of other young men and women also hopefully learned a valuable lesson about domestic violence too. Now seriously, they have moved on and got grown folk milking the situation for all the dough they can get, and Chris has been charged and punished, and they also lost their relationship and feel highly embarrassed. But no, do I think he sat there and plotted at the beginning of that evening to put a hurting on his girlfriend. No I don't. I think he got caught up in his anger and didn't think and his age is a factor (damn Ike was doing that shit still at the end of his life, so it is not even about age) And now he sees, while he is still young enough to see, that he truly fucked up! [b]That's what happened, folks, the end, nuff sed.

nurseV said:

You're disgusting, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. Let's see how you feel when/if you get beaten up and, simply because you're alive, people say "Psh, suck it up, girl, you probably caused it anyway!"