no-one gives two fucks about bon jovi, thus the jokes. this is prince.org, the only online forum that is less serious than 4chan and b3ta. no-one is happier here than if they are fucking moaning or taking the piss out of prince or anyone who dares mention prince

whatever you say on the org, you will always be wrong, and will always be damned for it. dems da rulez /b/ FTW

WetDream said:

they are really cheesey, i've got a really bad feeling they might do 22 nights with the "record industry" backing them all the way.....yuk....it's like Britney Spears being number 1 in the US again ....your heart just stops....what the F**k are people thinking.....

I blame madonna ...i see she moved on now to Lady GaGa .... spread betting...

Bon Jovi taking that Prince 21 Nights crown ....yuk, yuk...

LondonStyle said:

i think they will do 23 nites just to piss you off. earnest is probably jon bon jovi's brother or the bass player or drummer that no-one knows, and he's spying on us

unique said:

....yeah 23 nights of music industry darlings sucking eggs...."wow...Bon Jovi was great...." at least they won't make too much money after they pay off the music critics and tabloid press.....
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P2daP said:

It is not hard to break that.

Prince could have added more dates during his residency.

Also, 1.6 million registered for pre-sale of MJ's residency. So theoretically he could sold out 100 shows.

It doesn't matter, if Bon Jovi is more popular it's because they play by the rules & don't challenge anyone.

As for records being beaten, people still remember Babe Ruth, and people will remember Prince (probably longer than they will Bon Jovi, whatever records may stand)

Bon Jovi's popularity is a lesson to other musicians that even if you're not that great, being persistent, consistent, and not difficult are good business practices at least.

Bohemian67 said:

I'm going along with this... I couldn't name a Bon Jovi song off the top of my head but I've heard a few over the years and I can't say its ever appealed to me.

I'm not bothered about him doing it cos its obviously of no interest to me, if he breaks the record good for him although I think Prince deserves it more

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Alright this is really dumb to compare, but if you wanna go there, Jovi has sold twice as many albums worldwide than Prince has, so if you hate him ok, but if thats the proof you are looking for than its plain as day. Jovi have a bigger market overseas than any band out there with the exception of U2, so again, if you hate them, thats on you, this isnt about that. But again its plain as day the proof is there look it up. Bon Jovi isnt in this to break Prince's record, honestly until they mention him directly (which they wont, because they dont care like that) then its a NON ISSUE, they are doing shows like everyone else is. I mean be honest now, do you think that Prince could sell out Giants STADIUM? Now im a P Fan but also a realist, i dont think he can, and if he did it would be one night, but he isnt that kind of artist, Jovi and u2 and Springsteen are.

NDRU said:

Sorry that is wrong, i say to young musicians go out and study what Bon Jovi, at least Jon has done as a person. First of all, this guy owns all his shit, its a major corporation that he has, he owns the rights, the publishing, the video rights, can re-sell shit, the endorsements and everything else they have. So if im teaching someone who to go out and be like, i would say follow his method of being a businessman, and i dont wanna hear PRINCE or whomever didnt have the chance to do things like that, BULLSHIT, Prince had the same and more leeway to do what he wanted but he played himself in the early 90's and thought he was god, he was jealous of Madonna and her deal and thought he deserved it and more, despite not coming close to her numbers, thats just fact.

I mean i would compare Jon to elton john (whom he does look up to) in respect of knowing how to do business, does Jon "challenge" well pick up his solo album "destination anywhere" which was nothing like anything the band did, or Richies blues album that no label released because it didnt have a ballad, i mean come on with this CHALLENGE shit, what do we want a rap record from them? I mean watch there new documentary and hear him talk about how "he has moments where he wants to do things that only might like" but then you also have to realize you cant do shows and play to no one because you arent doing the songs they know, i mean you can challenge but be a dick and they will remember you being a dick. I mean Bon Jovi released a box set of 5 cds of Demo's isnt that "Challenging" i dont see Prince opening his vault of greatness to his fans and being challenging, i mean come on now.

Hey at least Bon Jovi's a solid band. If they want to outsell Prince, I say go for it. I'd rather them break the record then some shit lip-sync flavour of the day act.

I could give two shits about Prince's O2 record. It's one I've never ever mentioned to anybody and I really think it ranks extremely low on his list of accomplishments.

I'm not saying I'm a fan of Bon Jovi, but I respect them a lot more than many groups out there touring today.
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lastdecember said:

right, well first of all you basically just repeated what I said about bon jovi being smart about business, and second, if you want to believe that Bon Jovi's is as challenging as Prince as artists then great, but I don't believe they are

NDRU said:

Its not about who is more "challenging" i mean Prince has more range obviously we all know that, but at the same time has everyone here sat down and listened to darker Jovi work, i mean he did "destination anywhere" and sure it wasnt what we might call challenging, but no one bought it because it wasnt "shot through the heart" and big choruses, so he takes his chances where he sees fit, i dont see Prince doing "indie" films for no money? I see Prince sueing people for using his music in films or stuff while i see others licensing it out smartly. I mean when i went to the One Nite Alone tour it was Prince at his best, truly, he was at his challenging height, but to be honest, unless you were the NYC fatithful, no one was digging the fact he wasnt doing hits, to me, i wanted to hear "rainbow children" all the way through and got it, but people that paid for 1999 and others didnt get it and you have to know how to keep or lose that crowd. Prince plays it safe just as much" he has his hits tours" he knows he has to keep the money flowing, so lets not say he is out there playing music no one knows, nothing is safer than his RB ballads over the last few years that have gotten him play I mean can songs like "Satisfied" and "call my name" be more painting by number, where is risk in those?

lastdecember said:

you're right he is not as challenging as he used to be, though I would say suing fans is a sort of challenge! And being an ass in general is another way of being challenging.

And the fact that he sold 21 nights says he does have great business sense in some ways (he has been a huge star for 25 years, right?) and knows what people want & how to deliver it to them. But I think it's pretty plain to most that Prince could have held onto the kind of sales he had in 84 had he not deliberately challenged his audience to hear different sounds. Let's face it, he is always denying someone the record they want to hear from him. Part of that is because he's set the bar so high, but part of it I believe is a deliberate challenge. "Challenging" is not always good, mind you! Sometimes he's just difficult.

I don't hate Bon Jovi, and I think the songs are perfectly well written, but I do think they on the whole are just a tad more middle of the road, even though prince is not quite what he used to be. I think When you pick up a Bon Jovi record you know basically what you're getting. It might be darker or whatever, but you're not going to be saying WTF is this?

NDRU said:

Actually in his new documentary when he did the "destination anywhere" record he had that crowd going "wtf is this" so its all relative to the artist, when Jovi did the re-works of his old songs, his fans hated it, they felt he was ruing what he worked so hard for, and they told him buy not buying that record, though it still was gold here and 2.5 worldwide. I thhink if you dig into any artist you can find something, i like rare Prince but to the average person, Prince is the "sex guy" and nothing else, I mean to me he is more than that by a longshot, and though we think we know the Jovi catalog, i doubt anyone on this forum, knows songs that werent singles and played up the ass. Still say in terms of musicians they arent respected at all, i would put Richie Sambora in my top 20 all time guitarists easily.

Prince fans wouldn't be upset if somebody beat Prince's record breaking run at the O2. I think it's just annoying to the fans that all of a sudden everyone wants to set up a residency there. Prince did something fantastic and original and now every other act in the business is trying to jump on the bandwagon and capitalize on it. Personally I'd be more impressed if they came up with another attention grabbing idea. regardless of who it is MJ, Bon Jovi or any other random music act.

Where the hell has this guy been hiding?

unique said:

100,000,000 fans say different.

ernestsewell said:

lying bastards the lot of them

I'm looking at their stats...


I didn't know they've had 11 top 10 albums and 5 number one albums in the UK

i dont know who bon jovi is but i wish MJ had been given a chance to break princes record

PurpleDiamond2009 said:

he was, and the result was epic fail

PurpleDiamond2009 said:

In a way he did. He just never got the chance to perform. But all the fans registered for the tickets so if things had been different it was already broken and Prince mentioned in Paris that MJ had "showed him that selling out more concerts was actually possible. Call the unperformed concerts "a freaky force of nature" but they happened in my opinion. In the minds of millions of fans.

PurpleDiamond2009 said:

The people involved actually knew he wouldn't and required more than the usual tests to insure his run. It was going to be a cash cow for Michael but it turned into a bigger one for AEG which made off like bandits for doing pretty much nothing but waiting for the inevitable.

Bon Jovi

in danish "puddelhunde rock",

terrible music, I'm impressed if they can outsell Prince at O2 Arena..

well there's only about 8 shows currently on sale, none of which seem to have sold out, and if/when they do appear as sold out, AEG will miraculously make another few thousand seats per night available closer to the time as production seats or some other bollocks, so it doesn't seem likely that they will beat prince's 21 nights

i presume they've done the same thing as the spice girls, kept aside a large number of provisional dates and then try and sell a few nights at a time and add more. the spice girls had something like 30 dates provisionally booked, but they only did 18 in the end. they used the full hype of only releasing 1 or 2 shows at a time to create panic buying

maybe the shows haven't sold out yet as the fans of the poodle haired rockers are probably still lining up outside ticket agencies and the o2 to buy tickets in person, unaware of the concept of the internet. they probably know a lot about devil worshipping and shit so i wouldn't go making jokes about them

HonestMan13 said:

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Exactly, somebody will break the recors some day but to slag off Prince for these bums !!! Anyway it looks like so far none of the shows have sold out and I am sure the haters will not have to much more to say as usual.

laurarichardson said:

The thing i dont understand is who the hell even mentioned they were going after the "Prince" record, who the fuck cares, i mean honestly. To put it simply Prince is never gonna play the UK most likely, def not at that length, he hadnt played there in ages. Bon Jovi plays there every fucking album which is pretty much once a year. For the record the 10th show went on sale, so for a venue to do that something must have sold out. Who really cares, i mean im sure the Rolling Stones or u2 would smash Prince's record with ease, but who cares, at the end of the day does it really matter?

It's a shame bands don't tour properly anymore - a capital city stadium here, a capital city stadium there and now a "residency" and they're done.

I suppose if thousands of idiots will spend days and a small fortune traveling to the band instead, why should they bother touring?

TheSkinMechanic said:

Actually they are touring for real, they will have dates from early Next Year stretching to mid 2011, hitting the usa twice and europe/uk/japan one round