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PrintableSee journalists have the greatest talent for making luxuriant long articles and saying nothing. He wrote that the whole documentary where they speak about healing the world, love and where Mike keeps on blessing and loving everyone and anyone was just a "show full of gassy hipocracy. Upon seeing Jackson licking a lollypop at the age of 50, it is obvious that this creature is dead serious about it". "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: One journalist wrote that MJ was a hypocrite speaking about love and the need to save the world. How can someone write that about someone who has given more to charity than anyone else? Why are people so judgemental about this part of MJ´s character? We all know he sang and spoke about it more than anyone else, but he also did in this way more than anyone else which means to me that it was genuine. Still, MJ was not the only person singing about peace and love. Has, for instance, John Lennon ever been accusied of being hypocritical, naive or childish? Not to my knowledge...
They also wrote how this film was just for the die-hard fans, that there´s nothing to appreciate about this film for non-fans. Mike gave better performance at a rehearsal than most "top-world artists" nowadays onstage. His talent shows in this film. Of course, the camera and stage ain´t the way it should be, but it´s just a rehearsal...I just don´t get some people.... [Edited 10/30/09 5:53am] Of course John Lennon has been accused of that. And it's a realy bad move from MJ to let his charity work be a record for the Guiness Book. This leaves a bit aftertase, mh? | |
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dag said: See journalists have the greatest talent for making luxuriant long articles and saying nothing. He wrote that the whole documentary where they speak about healing the world, love and where Mike keeps on blessing and loving everyone and anyone was just a "show full of gassy hipocracy. Upon seeing Jackson licking a lollypop at the age of 50, it is obvious that this creature is dead serious about it".
do not let other people's opinion bother you. especially "critics" whose jobs are to tell whether they like something or not. how low can one get... | |
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graecophilos said: dag said: One journalist wrote that MJ was a hypocrite speaking about love and the need to save the world. How can someone write that about someone who has given more to charity than anyone else? Why are people so judgemental about this part of MJ´s character? We all know he sang and spoke about it more than anyone else, but he also did in this way more than anyone else which means to me that it was genuine. Still, MJ was not the only person singing about peace and love. Has, for instance, John Lennon ever been accusied of being hypocritical, naive or childish? Not to my knowledge...
They also wrote how this film was just for the die-hard fans, that there´s nothing to appreciate about this film for non-fans. Mike gave better performance at a rehearsal than most "top-world artists" nowadays onstage. His talent shows in this film. Of course, the camera and stage ain´t the way it should be, but it´s just a rehearsal...I just don´t get some people.... [Edited 10/30/09 5:53am] Of course John Lennon has been accused of that. And it's a realy bad move from MJ to let his charity work be a record for the Guiness Book. This leaves a bit aftertase, mh? I don´t know. I haven´t read that much about Lennon, but whevener I hear about him or the Beatles, people only speak about them in the most positive way. I´ve never ever heard a journalist say something bad about them. Is the bolded part ironical or genuine? "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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I just saw it in the morning show and even though I really needed to go to the bathroom after drinking so much coffee before the start of the film, I resisted my screaming bladder and sit till the very end because I just couldn't turn away from all that ongoing footage that accompanied the credit roll at the end.
I watched it with mixed feelings. The film totally lacked any "going for the sentimentally effect", they didn't even mentioned his death- towards the end they only showed a freeze frame of Michael with the words "Love Lives Forever" faded in over it- and that made it even more sad. The film just focused on the music and rehearsing- hardly no additional interviewing- which was a very clever thing to do. It showed that Michael was a very hands on guy and this film will shut everyone up who said that he was just a performer and no musician. He could go on and on about the finest details with his keyboard player and with his female guitar player. Michael knew his music: at one point when again he was bugging someone- I forgot wether it was the director or a musician- about some musical details of "Earth Song" he said: "That's the way I wrote it". But he did it all in a very gentle way. Basically the film is a combination of raw footage and snippets from slickly looking clips - it looks like they were also shooting some new videoclips for Thriller, Smooth criminal and Earth Song clips. I think the complete clips will probably end up on the DVD/Blue Ray. Like I mentioned, no sentimentally card was being played. But in the end you'll leave the theater allmost crying. For this was no dying man, this was a guy still in the midst of his life, so full of energy, still so much promise in him, vocally and as a dancer, all those twentysomething dancers had nothing on him. I'm going to see it again... | |
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dag said: Upon seeing Jackson licking a lollypop at the age of 50, it is obvious that this creature is dead serious about it".
Thats one of the most absurd thing I've ever heard. Is it the english translation that makes it sound like such peculiar thing to say? Or does it sound that ridiculous in the original language as well? Or am I reading it wrong? Was his statment about him being dead serious about the lolly pop or about the rehearsals? [Edited 10/30/09 6:32am] | |
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bboy87 said: Ellie said: One other thing - the days after he passed and walking around the tributes in the city, there were lots of people proclaiming their lifelong fandom around, and as someone who'd been a bit involved in all of that especially over the last 10 years, I was a bit angry that I just didn't recognise any of these so-called die-hards.
Going to the premiere last night and it was all of the same old faces. The people who made the effort to support him (the ones who were respectful too, not the freaky stalkers). I don't mean to be elitist, but it's just a bit funny how in each country the same 100 or so people are the ones that were always there when it counted. I'm so with you with this. At first I was simply happy people showing him love.... until in mid July when I walked into Barnes and Noble and saw books about him EVERYWHERE....and went to JC Penny's and saw T-shirts and wondered "Where was all of this when I was growing up?" I remember going to the store and HOPING I'd see a Michael Jackson shirt or poster but always coming up with nothing I remember being called a sissy and a f**got as a kid by classmates (and even family members) JUST because I listened to Michael Jackson (and Prince to an extent) I remember as a kid going to the bookstore and seeing shelves full of books on Elvis, The Rolling Stones, and The Beatles but 9 times of 10, wouldn't see a book about Michael nor Prince (which motivated me to do my own) So when I see the fake love, all I do is smirk and keep it moving because I remember those times So yeah.....BBoy87 is a little bitter  I know exactly how you feel. Just yesterday I was walking past a little bookshop in our little town and they had 3(!?) books and a calendar in the shop-window. I was like  . My whole life, I remember visiting bookshops even in our capital city and finding ZERO books on Mike."When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Arnotts said: dag said: Upon seeing Jackson licking a lollypop at the age of 50, it is obvious that this creature is dead serious about it".
Thats one of the most absurd thing I've ever heard. Is it the english translation that makes it sound like such peculiar thing to say? Or does it sound that ridiculous in the original language as well? Or am I reading it wrong? Was his statment about him being dead serious about the lolly pop or about the rehearsals? [Edited 10/30/09 6:32am] I think what he meant was that only a man enjoying a lolly-pop at the age of 50 can be genuinly that childish to wanna heal the world and love everyone and anyone. See, my translations might not have been the best. Those stupid articles one has to read twice to undestand what the hell the author was trying to say.  "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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I saw the movie and I thought it was great for what it was. I really enjoyed seeing MJ in his element doing what he was put on the Earth to do. He really was a genius and this was the first time I got to see it behind the scenes. The film gave me a new found respect for MJ as an artist and performer. I have never seen MJ live, so this was as close as I could get to it now that he is no longer here.
Despite being so thin, he looked healthy and fit in the movie. He was killing his dance moves and was singing live the majority of the time. I think he was really excited and determined to bring his fans an unforgettable experience. It's is so unbelievably tragic that it never came to fruition. I was looking at the adoration that the dancers and singers had for him throughout the film and kept thinking how they had to be devastated when they learned of his passing. I definitely think the film is a must-see for any hardcore or casual Jackson fan. One question - Was anyone surprised that "Rock With You" wasn't part of the set list or at least not featured in the film? Do you think it might be an extra on the DVD? It seemed like they stuck to the mainstream pop hits and excluded the R&B hits. That was my observation. perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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dag said: Arnotts said: Thats one of the most absurd thing I've ever heard. Is it the english translation that makes it sound like such peculiar thing to say? Or does it sound that ridiculous in the original language as well? Or am I reading it wrong? Was his statment about him being dead serious about the lolly pop or about the rehearsals? [Edited 10/30/09 6:32am] I think what he meant was that only a man enjoying a lolly-pop at the age of 50 can be genuinly that childish to wanna heal the world and love everyone and anyone. See, my translations might not have been the best. Those stupid articles one has to read twice to undestand what the hell the author was trying to say. Ohhh I understand now. I thought it was a weird way of saying he was serious about licking his lollypop, as if that was wrong of him to be so, and I was thinking man some people notice the strangest things. | |
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Arnotts said: dag said: I think what he meant was that only a man enjoying a lolly-pop at the age of 50 can be genuinly that childish to wanna heal the world and love everyone and anyone. See, my translations might not have been the best. Those stupid articles one has to read twice to undestand what the hell the author was trying to say. Ohhh I understand now. I thought it was a weird way of saying he was serious about licking his lollypop, as if that was wrong of him to be so, and I was thinking man some people notice the strangest things.Well, as you can see, he meant that as well. If I understand it correctly, a man in his 50s should not be enjoying a lollypop and if he is, he is obviously childish. See, you´re reading this type of BS thinking "what the hell does THIS have to do with his performance, Mike´s character or the film in general?" "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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I will be viewing this movie this weekend!  
None of them got what it takes 2 B a future baby mama Gotta bend in the wind, but don't break 2 keep your man Show me 1 of them and I'll make her mine With no more drama Future baby mama  | |
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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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“This Is It” DVD Pushed to 2010 
October 30, 2009 Michael Jackson’s This Is It grossed $20.1 million worldwide in its first official day in theaters, raking in $7.4 million in domestic box office and a remarkable $12.7 million overseas. This Is It’s haul comes up short when compared Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus: The Best of Both Worlds Concert Tour, which grossed $8.6 million its first day in theaters on its way to the current highest-grossing debut week for a concert film, Variety reports. However, Hannah debuted on a Friday, while This Is It’s official premiere came on an October Wednesday during the World Series, so by early estimates Jackson should be King of the box office this weekend. It was previously reported that a This Is It DVD would be released prior to Christmas, but due to a regulation that usually forces studios to wait a minimum 90 days before releasing a new film to DVD, This Is It has been pushed to a late January or early February DVD release, the Los Angeles Times reports. Because the film will only have a two-week theatrical run, Sony executives argued that a This Is It DVD should circumvent the agreement between theater owners and movie studios, but the theater chains relented. According to the LAT, This Is It will be shown on 6,000 screens in 3,481 theaters these next two weeks, so Sony opted to push the DVD release date to 2010, but will miss out on the Christmas profits. In one last piece of This Is It news, the AP reports that Sony will submit the documentary for Academy Award consideration in categories ranging from film editing and sound to Best Picture and Best Director. Unfortunately, the most noteworthy category in which This Is It had the best chances of competing, the Best Documentary Oscar, already passed its deadline, making Jackson’s rehearsal footage film ineligible. The Elizabeth Taylor-approved film will also be ineligible for the Golden Globes, which doesn’t recognize documentaries. Because this year’s Oscars will feature an expanded Best Picture field of 10 nominees, based on its rave reviews it’s plausible that This Is It might score a nod for the King of Pop. http://www.rollingstone.c...-theaters/ | |
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I'm sorry if this has been addressed already but I'm very surprised that the actual live recordings of the songs were not put on a CD. Will that happen later or is there absolutely no talk of that. The "soundtrack" strikes me as disappointing. While I am interested in seeing this movie, I might do it only if it goes into a third week and when the hype dies down a bit. That being said, just based on the commercials, there are live recordings of all these songs, right? Is this something Joe Jackson wants to release for himself? | |
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"This Is It" LA Times Review by Ann Powers There's a sweet personal exchange near the end of "Michael Jackson's This Is It," the new concert film assembled from footage of the rehearsals for the London performances nullified by his death in June. Jackson is working out a dance sequence with Kenny Ortega, the director of the ill-fated concerts and of this documentary. Ortega lovingly mimics Jackson, overplaying his signature big hand gestures, and the superstar laughs. "I love how the stewardesses do it," he says. "I love it!" It's a moment that illuminates not just the way Jackson danced or sang, but how he thought -- viewing the world in terms of movement, human semaphore. "This Is It" offers only a few such insights into Jackson's artistic process, though enough surface to make this a useful document, as well as a beautiful one. Mostly it's a tribute to the power of Jackson's body and voice, which the film presents as surprisingly intact despite his age, 50 at the time of his death, and the various ailments that reportedly had plagued him in the preceding decades. Differing greatly from the rough, casual mood of many behind-the-scenes pop docs, this one is instead of a piece with Jackson's body of work: dazzling and strange, blurring the line between fantasy and reality. As a tragic teaser for the shows that might have been, "This Is It" hurts. If Jackson had been able to perform as he frequently does during these scenes, he would have accomplished the comeback for which he was so hungry. Though occasionally ragged, his voice is strong -- lush on such ballads as "Human Nature" and cutting in rockers like "Black or White" and "Beat It." And his dancing is utterly assured. It's tough to believe he was 50, he seems so feather-light and vigorous. The special effects and short films made for the O2 shows also delight. "Thriller" gets an update that takes the legendary video's graveyard scene into the Tim Burton era. "Smooth Criminal" inserts Jackson into the classic Hollywood films he loved -- from "Gilda" to "In a Lonely Place." There are aerialists, "pole dancing specialists," arcs of fire and one adorable little girl. Ortega has assembled this film to bewitch the senses rather than to expose the inevitably tough realities of a rehearsal process. The film's prologue states that this footage was meant for Jackson's personal library, yet it's hardly raw. It's lighted and edited like a real concert film, and the sound is almost too good to believe. Jackson does very occasionally slip up. The gaffes and vulnerable moments are welcome. Complaining about the newfangled ear monitors he's forced to wear, or chiding his dancers and band for encouraging him to sing in full voice when he should be conserving his instrument -- "I shouldn't be singing out, I am trying to warm up my voice to this moment, why are you doing this to me?" he exclaims, seeming truly abashed. The great artist is just a man, slightly anxious about this momentous and risky return. But such intimate views, so common in such music films as "Gimme Shelter" or Metallica's "Some Kind of Monster," are not the point of "This Is It." Ortega made this film to honor not just the memory of Jackson but the hard work of a big cast and crew that never made it to opening night. The film opens with emotional interviews with the dancers, apparently done while Jackson was still alive, about how excited they are to work with him; at times it threatens to veer off into "Fame" territory, celebrating the starry-eyed kids whose efforts lifted up their hero. Ortega is obviously aware, however, that the overwhelming draw is the footage of Jackson himself performing. "This Is It" always returns to those sequences, which don't exactly surprise -- Jackson had his moves, and he stuck with them -- but always impress. Here's the King of Pop throwing himself on the floor during "Beat It," reenacting the impish courtship dance of "The Way You Make Me Feel," doing the Soviet stomp in "They Don't Care About Us." His solo dance during "Billie Jean," complete with slow-motion crotch thrusts, is breathtaking. "At least we get a feel for it," Jackson murmurs afterward. These sequences are driven by Jackson's anomalous grace. They sometimes feel enhanced; his gauntness is downplayed; split screens make the dancing more magical; a careful sound mix hides most of the roughness for which any middle-aged singer must compensate. Jackson's total lack of engagement with the cameras adds to the unreal mood. He's always performing, but for the imagined masses, not for the filmgoer. Not reaching those masses was the final tragedy of Jackson's life. Occasionally, he's shown offering creative direction to his collaborators, and the steel in his voice reveals how much the world he was creating onstage meant to him. Everything, really: enough to push himself to the edge of human endurance. "This Is It" doesn't entirely acknowledge that reality, and that's a little odd. But Jackson probably would have wanted it that way. http://www.latimes.com/en...7172.story | |
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VinnyM27 said: I'm sorry if this has been addressed already but I'm very surprised that the actual live recordings of the songs were not put on a CD. Will that happen later or is there absolutely no talk of that. The "soundtrack" strikes me as disappointing. While I am interested in seeing this movie, I might do it only if it goes into a third week and when the hype dies down a bit. That being said, just based on the commercials, there are live recordings of all these songs, right? Is this something Joe Jackson wants to release for himself?
Why release that when it's a part of a DVD that will be out soon? What's the point? | |
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DiminutiveRocker said: REALLY enjoyed this movie. My audience clapped and whooped after every full performance. Got kind of choked up a a couple times...
MJ... what a genuine talent. The real thing. He is missed  Hi my dear! I am going to see it this weekend.. I am gonna so be a cry baby.. ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
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Graycap23 said: VinnyM27 said: I'm sorry if this has been addressed already but I'm very surprised that the actual live recordings of the songs were not put on a CD. Will that happen later or is there absolutely no talk of that. The "soundtrack" strikes me as disappointing. While I am interested in seeing this movie, I might do it only if it goes into a third week and when the hype dies down a bit. That being said, just based on the commercials, there are live recordings of all these songs, right? Is this something Joe Jackson wants to release for himself?
Why release that when it's a part of a DVD that will be out soon? What's the point? Cause it's audio? I'm saying something crazy? Frankly, it should have been the soundtrack, not just releasing the greatest hits yet again with "rarities"! Rushing this made no damn sense unless they never intend to release full audio versions of the songs. I mean, am I the crazy one here? | |
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VinnyM27 said: Graycap23 said: Why release that when it's a part of a DVD that will be out soon? What's the point? Cause it's audio? I'm saying something crazy? Frankly, it should have been the soundtrack, not just releasing the greatest hits yet again with "rarities"! Rushing this made no damn sense unless they never intend to release full audio versions of the songs. I mean, am I the crazy one here? The audio will be on the DVD. | |
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Some more journalist crap:
"Reading interviews with him and looking at his life, it is obvious that he was very one-sided person." "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: Some more journalist crap:
"Reading interviews with him and looking at his life, it is obvious that he was very one-sided person." where are these reviews coming from? Because over here in America, they are raving about it. [Edited 10/30/09 10:33am] | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: dag said: Some more journalist crap:
"Reading interviews with him and looking at his life, it is obvious that he was very one-sided person." where are these reviews coming from? Because over here in America, they are raving about it. [Edited 10/30/09 10:33am] Czech republic. Well, this was not an article about the film, but Michael in general. They´re idiots. I mean what´s so one-sided about MJ? "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: where are these reviews coming from? Because over here in America, they are raving about it. [Edited 10/30/09 10:33am] Czech republic. Well, this was not an article about the film, but Michael in general. They´re idiots. I mean what´s so one-sided about MJ? well considering that they didn't show the memorial in your country when it was shown everywhere else says something. America has always been the hardest on Michael now they are raving about everything bout him.  Not everyone is going to like the film so don't worry bout it. i was really suprised how everyone loves it. | |
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VinnyM27 said: I'm sorry if this has been addressed already but I'm very surprised that the actual live recordings of the songs were not put on a CD. Will that happen later or is there absolutely no talk of that. The "soundtrack" strikes me as disappointing. While I am interested in seeing this movie, I might do it only if it goes into a third week and when the hype dies down a bit. That being said, just based on the commercials, there are live recordings of all these songs, right? Is this something Joe Jackson wants to release for himself?
Forgive me also if this has been discussed; but as I'm listening to the CD audio version of "This Is It", I'm having a hard time hearing what is different about it from previous releases of these same songs. Is it that they're "remastered"? And if so, weren't these same songs "remastered" before? I mean, I do notice that there are a few extra "demo" versions, but I can't really hear much that's special about this CD. Haven't seen the movie yet, so I can't know how this CD might be relevant. Anyone? Anyone?  | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: dag said: Czech republic. Well, this was not an article about the film, but Michael in general. They´re idiots. I mean what´s so one-sided about MJ? well considering that they didn't show the memorial in your country when it was shown everywhere else says something. America has always been the hardest on Michael now they are raving about everything bout him. Not everyone is going to like the film so don't worry bout it. i was really suprised how everyone loves it.Yeah, they didn´t show it. How do you know? It was shown on one Czech channel, but a cable one. IDIOTS! I thought that it definately deserved to be shown on one of the basic state channels. I don´t expect everyone to like it, but the reviews over here are just plain idiotic. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: well considering that they didn't show the memorial in your country when it was shown everywhere else says something. America has always been the hardest on Michael now they are raving about everything bout him. Not everyone is going to like the film so don't worry bout it. i was really suprised how everyone loves it.Yeah, they didn´t show it. How do you know? It was shown on one Czech channel, but a cable one. IDIOTS! I thought that it definately deserved to be shown on one of the basic state channels. I don´t expect everyone to like it, but the reviews over here are just plain idiotic. i remember u saying something about it. where is the czech republic again? | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: dag said: Yeah, they didn´t show it. How do you know? It was shown on one Czech channel, but a cable one. IDIOTS! I thought that it definately deserved to be shown on one of the basic state channels. I don´t expect everyone to like it, but the reviews over here are just plain idiotic. i remember u saying something about it. where is the czech republic again? Oh yeah, I did complain. It´s east of Germany in Central Europe. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: where are these reviews coming from? Because over here in America, they are raving about it. [Edited 10/30/09 10:33am] Czech republic. Well, this was not an article about the film, but Michael in general. They´re idiots. I mean what´s so one-sided about MJ? He must have not visited any of their orphanages. Who gives a fuck what some journalist in the fucking Czech Republic thinks? Apart from the architecture in Prague, they have little of any interest to offer anybody, where's their World-dominating Superstar?  |
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Graycap23 said: VinnyM27 said: Cause it's audio? I'm saying something crazy? Frankly, it should have been the soundtrack, not just releasing the greatest hits yet again with "rarities"! Rushing this made no damn sense unless they never intend to release full audio versions of the songs. I mean, am I the crazy one here? The audio will be on the DVD. You're saying there will be an audio CD packaged with the DVD? The audio being on the DVD is not acceptable. It's like if Prince never released "Purple Rain" as a soundtrack. Or more fittingly, if somehting like that Rolling Stones movie from a few years ago did not have a CD soundtrack. We are so willing to accept the death of the CD that this IS it? | |
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