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Reply #30 posted 10/24/09 8:11pm

Timmy84

I'm Southern and I favor East Coast, West Coast and Midwest hip-hop.
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Reply #31 posted 10/24/09 8:44pm

babybugz

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shit hop is the autotune/ringtone mess
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Reply #32 posted 10/24/09 8:49pm

SavonOsco

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shit hop is the autotune/ringtone mess

Autotune/Vocoder has been around since SWV and early Mary J Blige.T-Pain took it to the extreme(autotune app on the Iphone)..now autotune is dead..next
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Reply #33 posted 10/24/09 8:52pm

Timmy84

SavonOsco said:

babybugz said:

shit hop is the autotune/ringtone mess

Autotune/Vocoder has been around since SWV and early Mary J Blige.T-Pain took it to the extreme(autotune app on the Iphone)..now autotune is dead..next


Vocoder's been out longer than that. I don't know about autotune but the vocoder has been out since the late '60s at least.
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Reply #34 posted 10/24/09 8:53pm

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SavonOsco said:

babybugz said:

shit hop is the autotune/ringtone mess

Autotune/Vocoder has been around since SWV and early Mary J Blige.T-Pain took it to the extreme(autotune app on the Iphone)..now autotune is dead..next

I know it's been around but that was mainly all the "hip hop"songs well the hits any way sound is in this era , I'm a hip hop fan though just not of that style of it
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Reply #35 posted 10/24/09 8:56pm

midiscover

They should've threw it in Troutman's casket
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Reply #36 posted 10/24/09 8:56pm

Timmy84

I love the vocoder on funk, electro pop and dance music. Hip-hop now is at an electro pop style so when they do it like that, I like it but when they put autotune on a "grimy" track, it sounds tacky to me. But I really don't care, it's another form for them. Don't listen to it much tho.
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Reply #37 posted 10/24/09 8:57pm

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The problem that I have with it is the following.

1. Most of it has been "Dumb Down", to the point where it is almost insulting to the listener.

2. There is no originality in neither the rhymes or the music that they are using.

3. The death of Tupac and Biggie.


4. The fact that multimedia corporations (especially Clear Channel Communications) put all of their focus on the gangsta style of rap and totally forsake all the other hip-hop/rap sub-genres (political rap, hip-house, alternative rap, etc.) in the process.

5. On a mainstream level, hip-hop (like most of USA pop culture in the 21st century) has too much elements taken from Freemasonry, witchcraft, & the occult
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Reply #38 posted 10/24/09 9:00pm

Timmy84

Tony, you should do like me and say fuck the corporate world, biatch. I can't bitch about the current hip-hop because that'll be too snobbish of me, not saying you're a snob but it's just not cool criticizing especially when you don't like it anyway.
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Reply #39 posted 10/24/09 9:04pm

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Timmy84 said:

Tony, you should do like me and say fuck the corporate world, biatch. I can't bitch about the current hip-hop because that'll be too snobbish of me, not saying you're a snob but it's just not cool criticizing especially when you don't like it anyway.


THAT^ is true. nod But it's a lot of fun as well as more educational to do what Vainandy is doing: bitch on!
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Reply #40 posted 10/24/09 9:05pm

Timmy84

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

Tony, you should do like me and say fuck the corporate world, biatch. I can't bitch about the current hip-hop because that'll be too snobbish of me, not saying you're a snob but it's just not cool criticizing especially when you don't like it anyway.


THAT^ is true. nod But it's a lot of fun as well as more educational to do what Vainandy is doing: bitch on!
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falloff Well I can understand that. I'm one of those that just ignores it and goes on to something else anyway though I get your points (even with the devil shit). lol
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Reply #41 posted 10/24/09 9:11pm

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TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

Tony, you should do like me and say fuck the corporate world, biatch. I can't bitch about the current hip-hop because that'll be too snobbish of me, not saying you're a snob but it's just not cool criticizing especially when you don't like it anyway.


THAT^ is true. nod But it's a lot of fun as well as more educational to do what Vainandy is doing: bitch on!
wink


Damn right. Music was meant to entertain and since it's not doing it's job, we have to entertain ourselves some kind of way so bitch on people, bitch on! Hell, it's fun. And if it pisses people off in the process that actually like shit hop, well that's just another extra added little goodie. evillol
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #42 posted 10/24/09 9:14pm

Timmy84

But see guys this is what I feel, if you want to educate people, give them the music and hopefully they can be converted. lol
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Reply #43 posted 10/24/09 9:16pm

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Timmy84 said:

TonyVanDam said:



THAT^ is true. nod But it's a lot of fun as well as more educational to do what Vainandy is doing: bitch on!
wink


falloff Well I can understand that. I'm one of those that just ignores it and goes on to something else anyway though I get your points (even with the devil shit). lol


That's because you are young and have all that old stuff to explore and get the feeling that we used to get when hearing it for the first time. We've already been there and had that feeling so pulling out the old records does the job for a little while but eventually we long for something new and since there's nothing new to fill that void, (and no I'm not going underground because that don't get me no dick) hell, bitch on. evillol
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #44 posted 10/24/09 9:19pm

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Timmy84 said:

But see guys this is what I feel, if you want to educate people, give them the music and hopefully they can be converted. lol


I'm not trying to educate people. I'm just trying to get some funk, some good nightlife, and some dick. lol
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #45 posted 10/24/09 9:22pm

Timmy84

vainandy said:



That's because you are young and have all that old stuff to explore and get the feeling that we used to get when hearing it for the first time. We've already been there and had that feeling so pulling out the old records does the job for a little while but eventually we long for something new and since there's nothing new to fill that void, (and no I'm not going underground because that don't get me no dick) hell, bitch on. evillol


I'm 25 but I knew about "old stuff" since 3 or 4 or something like that. lol
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Reply #46 posted 10/24/09 9:23pm

Timmy84

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I'm not trying to educate people. I'm just trying to get some funk, some good nightlife, and some dick. lol


Well of course, you did say you was a slut. lol
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Reply #47 posted 10/24/09 9:35pm

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Timmy84 said:

vainandy said:



I'm not trying to educate people. I'm just trying to get some funk, some good nightlife, and some dick. lol


Well of course, you did say you was a slut. lol


And a whore. lol
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Reply #48 posted 10/24/09 9:36pm

Timmy84

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And a whore. lol

lol
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Reply #49 posted 10/24/09 9:37pm

shorttrini

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TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

Tony, you should do like me and say fuck the corporate world, biatch. I can't bitch about the current hip-hop because that'll be too snobbish of me, not saying you're a snob but it's just not cool criticizing especially when you don't like it anyway.


THAT^ is true. nod But it's a lot of fun as well as more educational to do what Vainandy is doing: bitch on!
wink


I can see where both you and Timmy are coming from, by not wanting to criticize. But, If we don't, then how are they,(the one's that are making an inferior product), going to know that what they are producing is bullshit!! There are some who believe in the theory, "Why say something, they are not going to listen anyway". I don't believe that, not for a millisecond. You think that I am gonna go out and support Drake with his contradicting, misogynistic ass, (singing about success, but at the same time telling these kids who are listening to it, that in order to be successful, you need the, "Money, cars and the Hoes", what's up with that?). Yeah, Biggie and Pac, sang about hoes too, but at least they lived what they sang about, to a degree...Drake never lived that life. But then again, I guess singing about that would be more interesting than him singing about his role on "Degrassi High" as a wannabe paraplegic...
"Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth"
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Reply #50 posted 10/24/09 9:38pm

Timmy84

shorttrini said:

TonyVanDam said:



THAT^ is true. nod But it's a lot of fun as well as more educational to do what Vainandy is doing: bitch on!
wink


I can see where both you and Timmy are coming from, by not wanting to criticize. But, If we don't, then how are they,(the one's that are making an inferior product), going to know that what they are producing is bullshit!! There are some who believe in the theory, "Why say something, they are not going to listen anyway". I don't believe that, not for a millisecond. You think that I am gonna go out and support Drake with his contradicting, misogynistic ass, (singing about success, but at the same time telling these kids who are listening to it, that in order to be successful, you need the, "Money, cars and the Hoes", what's up with that?). Yeah, Biggie and Pac, sang about hoes too, but at least they lived what they sang about, to a degree...Drake never lived that life. But then again, I guess singing about that would be more interesting than him singing about his role on "Degrassi High" as a wannabe paraplegic...


Yo, is your YouTube name shorttrini2000? smile
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Reply #51 posted 10/24/09 9:42pm

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Timmy84 said:

vainandy said:



That's because you are young and have all that old stuff to explore and get the feeling that we used to get when hearing it for the first time. We've already been there and had that feeling so pulling out the old records does the job for a little while but eventually we long for something new and since there's nothing new to fill that void, (and no I'm not going underground because that don't get me no dick) hell, bitch on. evillol


I'm 25 but I knew about "old stuff" since 3 or 4 or something like that. lol


Pulling out the old music is like being married and having sex. It gets the job done but you've already had it before so you already know what's behind the zipper. But there's nothing like getting some new dick for the first time and not knowing what's going to either flop or spring out from behind the zipper. Music is the same way. I'm always looking for a new thrill and lately the thrill is gone....the thrill has gone away....I said the thrill is gone baby....the thrilllll is gonnnnne away. lol
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Reply #52 posted 10/24/09 9:42pm

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But you can't be hating on this:



music
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Reply #53 posted 10/24/09 9:43pm

Timmy84

vainandy said:



Pulling out the old music is like being married and having sex. It gets the job done but you've already had it before so you already know what's behind the zipper. But there's nothing like getting some new dick for the first time and not knowing what's going to either flop or spring out from behind the zipper. Music is the same way. I'm always looking for a new thrill and lately the thrill is gone....the thrill has gone away....I said the thrill is gone baby....the thrilllll is gonnnnne away. lol


OK, BB King. lol
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Reply #54 posted 10/24/09 9:44pm

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Timmy84 said:

shorttrini said:



I can see where both you and Timmy are coming from, by not wanting to criticize. But, If we don't, then how are they,(the one's that are making an inferior product), going to know that what they are producing is bullshit!! There are some who believe in the theory, "Why say something, they are not going to listen anyway". I don't believe that, not for a millisecond. You think that I am gonna go out and support Drake with his contradicting, misogynistic ass, (singing about success, but at the same time telling these kids who are listening to it, that in order to be successful, you need the, "Money, cars and the Hoes", what's up with that?). Yeah, Biggie and Pac, sang about hoes too, but at least they lived what they sang about, to a degree...Drake never lived that life. But then again, I guess singing about that would be more interesting than him singing about his role on "Degrassi High" as a wannabe paraplegic...


Yo, is your YouTube name shorttrini2000? smile


shorttrini2002. I subscribed to ur u tube page, this morning.
"Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth"
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Reply #55 posted 10/24/09 9:48pm

Timmy84

shorttrini said:

Timmy84 said:



Yo, is your YouTube name shorttrini2000? smile


shorttrini2002. I subscribed to ur u tube page, this morning.


2002 excuse me. Thanx for subscribing! smile
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Reply #56 posted 10/24/09 9:48pm

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I love old school hip hop / rap music. I don't really care for the music out now for the fact that it's been "dumbed down". Only thing that usually gets the audience moving is the actual beat to the song. I'll take 90's hip hop/rap over this era
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Reply #57 posted 10/24/09 9:50pm

Timmy84

ViintageJunkiie said:

I love old school hip hop / rap music. I don't really care for the music out now for the fact that it's been "dumbed down". Only thing that usually gets the audience moving is the actual beat to the song. I'll take 90's hip hop/rap over this era


'90s hip-hop/rap is the bomb! I'm playing Queen Pen's "Party Ain't a Party" on IMEEM right now! cool
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Reply #58 posted 10/24/09 9:52pm

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Imagine any rapper of today doing a video of that kind, wearing a purple sweater. lol
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Reply #59 posted 10/24/09 9:53pm

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Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

I love old school hip hop / rap music. I don't really care for the music out now for the fact that it's been "dumbed down". Only thing that usually gets the audience moving is the actual beat to the song. I'll take 90's hip hop/rap over this era


'90s hip-hop/rap is the bomb! I'm playing Queen Pen's "Party Ain't a Party" on IMEEM right now! cool


Hell yeah!

A party aint a party till ran all through
and leave it to my crew, its gon' be playa proof!
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