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Reply #30 posted 11/15/09 10:20pm

Timmy84

TD3 said:

Timmy84 said:



That's why I wished sometimes when groups are that good that they don't rely on someone or even have conflict to make it work. Both groups had something good and something bad got in the way. It makes me sick sometimes lol



nod That's the one thing I've always admired about The Rolling Stones, through it all they realized the sum of who they were was their strength.


Yeah they're the ONLY group (besides probably the Dells) to do this. I just don't get groups especially in R&B/funk, etc. Why do THEY get into problems quicker? I think if they had known what it was going to be like, they would've tried harder to stay together.
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Reply #31 posted 11/15/09 10:20pm

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That's why I didn't watch it, they had only three hits and then they start beefing. WTF? smh


Sorry guys but Klymaxx had 7 hits. Their followup album to Meeting in the Ladies Room spawned 3 top 20 hits. Sexy was #18 r&b,I'd Still Say Yes
was #7 r&b,and Divas Need Love Too was #14 r&b. They had one more top 10
hit with Good Love in 1990. Never underestimate the power of Klymaxx. lol
To me this was the most interesting episode this season. Tina Marie's
episode was very bland. There was nothing that really inhibited her success.
Bootsy's episode was okay but i didn't learn anything new there either.
This unsung was well put together much like Shalamar's.



LOL on what I put in bold phunk, co-sign on everything you said.
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Reply #32 posted 11/15/09 10:44pm

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nod That's the one thing I've always admired about The Rolling Stones, through it all they realized the sum of who they were was their strength.


Yeah they're the ONLY group (besides probably the Dells) to do this. I just don't get groups especially in R&B/funk, etc. Why do THEY get into problems quicker? I think if they had known what it was going to be like, they would've tried harder to stay together.


I think we as fans get spoiled and want groups to stay together forever
but they are just like families that have disagreements and internal
conflict. Some groups are able to weather the storm and others aren't.
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Reply #33 posted 11/16/09 12:00am

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Why oh why can't these gurls check the egos at the door. I'd pay CASH money to see Joyce with the goggles strapped to the thigh again wink
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Reply #34 posted 11/16/09 3:26am

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That's why I didn't watch it, they had only three hits and then they start beefing. WTF? smh


Sorry guys but Klymaxx had 7 hits. Their followup album to Meeting in the Ladies Room spawned 3 top 20 hits. Sexy was #18 r&b,I'd Still Say Yes
was #7 r&b,and Divas Need Love Too was #14 r&b. They had one more top 10
hit with Good Love in 1990. Never underestimate the power of Klymaxx. lol
To me this was the most interesting episode this season. Tina Marie's
episode was very bland. There was nothing that really inhibited her success.
Bootsy's episode was okay but i didn't learn anything new there either.
This unsung was well put together much like Shalamar's.

Hmm well thats why everybody got opinions because this episode was not all that to me. This was about women who want to make it big, talented women, but were all for themselves rolleyes They were the reason they never really hit big successes. I guess the real Klymaxx fans would realize they had 7 hits, but to the average, its like they 3 hits with ALL THE ORIGINAL MEMBERS and then they started cat fighting over...what? And Shalamr's Unsung? rolleyes that one was a big old bitch fest too. At least with the Bootsy Unsung you could smile and laugh along with him while appreciating his music. And he did become a real success. In the end he just didn't disappear like Klymaxx, he's still touring, recording, writing, etc. This isn't to go back and forth with you, but just wanted to give my opinion as well. thumbs up!
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Reply #35 posted 11/16/09 3:26am

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I never really knew much about Klymaxx which is why I tuned into watch this tonight, but watching it was quite disappointing. I mean they had like three hits, but somehow egos got involved from just that? confuse I really didn't get how some of the members started leaving after their lukewarm success, I mean maybe it's just me, but I think they were a bit premature thinking that they had all of a sudden "reached the top", I do believe they were getting there, had they stayed together a little longer they would have exploded but like I said, thats just my opinion. I also found it interesting how they put that one lady on blast years later after she trade marked the group's name, replaced all the members (though all of them had left by that time anyway) and started touring under the name of Klymaxx. I really don't know who is right or wrong in that situation. disbelief It just seems like a big old mess.


That's why I didn't watch it, they had only three hits and then they start beefing. WTF? smh

For real. nod
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Reply #36 posted 11/16/09 3:28am

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That's one thing that troubled me about that. Shouldn't a founder of the group have full copyrights of that name?


No. because Ms. Cooper didn't legally copyright the name and she should have done when she came up with the name for the group.

If there is no band agreement and the arrangement is informal, the right to the band name customarily stays with the band. Without a formal contract specifying who owns the band’s name, a member who is kicked out may form a new competing band with the same name. Once a band name dispute arises from an informal arrangement, a lawsuit must be filed for a court to determine who used the name first and which members were in the band when its names gained a "secondary meaning" (i.e., the public began recognizing the band by its name). If it can be proven that certain members were identified by the public as being in the band, the court can bar the use of band’s name by another individual or other competing group. To determine ownership, a court will inquire into who has artistic control over the band and for how long.

dang are you a lawyer??? lol
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Reply #37 posted 11/16/09 3:30am

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That's insane. disbelief


Nevertheless;Bernadette has won legal use of the Klymaxx name.
Bernadette,Fenderella,vocalist Pennye Ford and other members are
now touring as Klymaxx.

Oh she did, good.
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Reply #38 posted 11/16/09 3:55am

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No. because Ms. Cooper didn't legally copyright the name and she should have done when she came up with the name for the group.

If there is no band agreement and the arrangement is informal, the right to the band name customarily stays with the band. Without a formal contract specifying who owns the band’s name, a member who is kicked out may form a new competing band with the same name. Once a band name dispute arises from an informal arrangement, a lawsuit must be filed for a court to determine who used the name first and which members were in the band when its names gained a "secondary meaning" (i.e., the public began recognizing the band by its name). If it can be proven that certain members were identified by the public as being in the band, the court can bar the use of band’s name by another individual or other competing group. To determine ownership, a court will inquire into who has artistic control over the band and for how long.

dang are you a lawyer??? lol
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Reply #39 posted 11/16/09 5:04am

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That's why I didn't watch it, they had only three hits and then they start beefing. WTF? smh


Sorry guys but Klymaxx had 7 hits. Their followup album to Meeting in the Ladies Room spawned 3 top 20 hits. Sexy was #18 r&b,I'd Still Say Yes
was #7 r&b,and Divas Need Love Too was #14 r&b. They had one more top 10
hit with Good Love in 1990. Never underestimate the power of Klymaxx. lol
To me this was the most interesting episode this season. Tina Marie's
episode was very bland. There was nothing that really inhibited her success.
Bootsy's episode was okay but i didn't learn anything new there either.
This unsung was well put together much like Shalamar's.


Don't forget "Man Size Love"
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Reply #40 posted 11/16/09 6:20am

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I forgot they sung this one...
It was blowing up the airwaves back in the day. music
I finally saw the episode last night, I didn't know they had that many issues with in the group. I guess everybody wanted the spotlight? Bernadette just had a way of stealing the show with her antics, but the whole group stood out. They were bold beautiful and could play their instruments!

The movie "Running Scared", blew that single up (Man size Love), and it was one of my favorites!
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Reply #41 posted 11/16/09 6:33am

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Sorry guys but Klymaxx had 7 hits. Their followup album to Meeting in the Ladies Room spawned 3 top 20 hits. Sexy was #18 r&b,I'd Still Say Yes
was #7 r&b,and Divas Need Love Too was #14 r&b. They had one more top 10
hit with Good Love in 1990. Never underestimate the power of Klymaxx. lol
To me this was the most interesting episode this season. Tina Marie's
episode was very bland. There was nothing that really inhibited her success.
Bootsy's episode was okay but i didn't learn anything new there either.
This unsung was well put together much like Shalamar's.


Don't forget "Man Size Love"


I didn't forget it. I wasn't sure how it charted. It was on the
Running Scared soundtrack then the band put it on their self titled album.
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Reply #42 posted 11/16/09 6:42am

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I forgot they sung this one...
It was blowing up the airwaves back in the day. music
I finally saw the episode last night, I didn't know they had that many issues with in the group. I guess everybody wanted the spotlight? Bernadette just had a way of stealing the show with her antics, but the whole group stood out. They were bold beautiful and could play their instruments!

The movie "Running Scared", blew that single up, and it was one of my favorites!


This song was okay. It had that Soul 2 Soul sound. I guess they
were trying to change with the times. They were down to a trio then.
I was watching the episode last night and the keyboard player was
saying the reason she quit because the labels were telling them what
to do at that point and she felt they weren't being allowed to be Klymaxx.
I dig this cut here better from this album although i don't like this
remix half as much as the album version which was vintage Klymaxx.
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Reply #43 posted 11/16/09 6:48am

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phunkdaddy said:



Sorry guys but Klymaxx had 7 hits. Their followup album to Meeting in the Ladies Room spawned 3 top 20 hits. Sexy was #18 r&b,I'd Still Say Yes
was #7 r&b,and Divas Need Love Too was #14 r&b. They had one more top 10
hit with Good Love in 1990. Never underestimate the power of Klymaxx. lol
To me this was the most interesting episode this season. Tina Marie's
episode was very bland. There was nothing that really inhibited her success.
Bootsy's episode was okay but i didn't learn anything new there either.
This unsung was well put together much like Shalamar's.

Hmm well thats why everybody got opinions because this episode was not all that to me. This was about women who want to make it big, talented women, but were all for themselves rolleyes They were the reason they never really hit big successes. I guess the real Klymaxx fans would realize they had 7 hits, but to the average, its like they 3 hits with ALL THE ORIGINAL MEMBERS and then they started cat fighting over...what? And Shalamr's Unsung? rolleyes that one was a big old bitch fest too. At least with the Bootsy Unsung you could smile and laugh along with him while appreciating his music. And he did become a real success. In the end he just didn't disappear like Klymaxx, he's still touring, recording, writing, etc. This isn't to go back and forth with you, but just wanted to give my opinion as well. thumbs up!
[Edited 11/16/09 3:35am]


Yeah you know better. I've already had to spank you for talkin
bout my boy Smokey.


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Reply #44 posted 11/16/09 7:40am

diamondpearl1

Timmy84 said:

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These ladies didn't age very well with the exception
of Fenderella. Damn Robin Grider looks really rough like
she been through some stuff. Was it me or did it look like
she lost all her choppers? eek
Too bad things fell apart for these ladies quickly much like
the Mary Jane Girls. I'll never forget how they lit it up
in 1985. They were on fire.


Klymaxx and the MJGs fell apart at the same got damn time too. disbelief


In the end Klymaxx was basically tryin 2 be an answer to "The Time", but they never had half the chops that even "Taste Of Honey" had let alone Morris and the fellas. Then The Mary Jane Girls was another Vanity/Appollonia 6 destined 4 no more than 2 or three hits that you KNOW they didn't write lol
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Reply #45 posted 11/16/09 7:49am

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Timmy84 said:



That's why I didn't watch it, they had only three hits and then they start beefing. WTF? smh


Sorry guys but Klymaxx had 7 hits. Their followup album to Meeting in the Ladies Room spawned 3 top 20 hits. Sexy was #18 r&b,I'd Still Say Yes
was #7 r&b,and Divas Need Love Too was #14 r&b. They had one more top 10
hit with Good Love in 1990. Never underestimate the power of Klymaxx. lol
To me this was the most interesting episode this season. Tina Marie's
episode was very bland. There was nothing that really inhibited her success.
Bootsy's episode was okay but i didn't learn anything new there either.
This unsung was well put together much like Shalamar's.

I wouldn't consider the show well put together. I heard about 3 or 4 things that were incorrect last night.

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Reply #46 posted 11/16/09 7:51am

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what did you feel was incorrect?
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Reply #47 posted 11/16/09 7:52am

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Constellation is a SOLAR subsidiary.

since when? Solar was never apart of mca.
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Reply #48 posted 11/16/09 8:02am

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Timmy84 said:

Constellation is a SOLAR subsidiary.

since when? Solar was never apart of mca.


They recorded their final album in 1990 for MCA The Maxx is Back
before they were dropped. Solar probably was never part of MCA
but Constellation was in 1986 on their self titled album.
Constellation was distributed by MCA then.
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Reply #49 posted 11/16/09 8:06am

diamondpearl1

daPrettyman said:

Timmy84 said:

Constellation is a SOLAR subsidiary.

since when? Solar was never apart of mca.


Solar was distributed through Epic just ask Shalamar, Babyface, and Midnight Star lol
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Reply #50 posted 11/16/09 9:31am

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missfee said:


dang are you a lawyer??? lol
[Edited 11/16/09 3:32am]


yes.... boxed

oh, because it shows lol don't be boxed be excited to be a lawyer!!!!
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Reply #51 posted 11/16/09 9:34am

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Hmm well thats why everybody got opinions because this episode was not all that to me. This was about women who want to make it big, talented women, but were all for themselves rolleyes They were the reason they never really hit big successes. I guess the real Klymaxx fans would realize they had 7 hits, but to the average, its like they 3 hits with ALL THE ORIGINAL MEMBERS and then they started cat fighting over...what? And Shalamr's Unsung? rolleyes that one was a big old bitch fest too. At least with the Bootsy Unsung you could smile and laugh along with him while appreciating his music. And he did become a real success. In the end he just didn't disappear like Klymaxx, he's still touring, recording, writing, etc. This isn't to go back and forth with you, but just wanted to give my opinion as well. thumbs up!
[Edited 11/16/09 3:35am]


Yeah you know better. I've already had to spank you for talkin
bout my boy Smokey.


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lol when did you spank me???? i don't recall that at all phunkdaddy. biggrin
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Reply #52 posted 11/16/09 9:37am

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Timmy84 said:



That's one thing that troubled me about that. Shouldn't a founder of the group have full copyrights of that name?


No. because Ms. Cooper didn't legally copyright the name and she should have done when she came up with the name for the group.

If there is no band agreement and the arrangement is informal, the right to the band name customarily stays with the band. Without a formal contract specifying who owns the band’s name, a member who is kicked out may form a new competing band with the same name. Once a band name dispute arises from an informal arrangement, a lawsuit must be filed for a court to determine who used the name first and which members were in the band when its names gained a "secondary meaning" (i.e., the public began recognizing the band by its name). If it can be proven that certain members were identified by the public as being in the band, the court can bar the use of band’s name by another individual or other competing group. To determine ownership, a court will inquire into who has artistic control over the band and for how long.

Spoken like a true barrister..... lol
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Reply #53 posted 11/16/09 11:02am

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Timmy84 said:

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No. because Ms. Cooper didn't legally copyright the name and she should have done when she came up with the name for the group.

If there is no band agreement and the arrangement is informal, the right to the band name customarily stays with the band. Without a formal contract specifying who owns the band’s name, a member who is kicked out may form a new competing band with the same name. Once a band name dispute arises from an informal arrangement, a lawsuit must be filed for a court to determine who used the name first and which members were in the band when its names gained a "secondary meaning" (i.e., the public began recognizing the band by its name). If it can be proven that certain members were identified by the public as being in the band, the court can bar the use of band’s name by another individual or other competing group. To determine ownership, a court will inquire into who has artistic control over the band and for how long.


That's insane. disbelief

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It is not insane it is called business. The group should have copyrighted the name back when they first got together. I can't understand why the members are mad at the one member who did copyright the name when they all left the group years earlier. eek
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Reply #54 posted 11/16/09 11:18am

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what did you feel was incorrect?

It wasn't that the story was incorrect. The first thing I noticed was they said that "Meeting In The Ladies Room"(the song) was the first single. They later came back and said "The Men All Pause" was the first single (which is correct).

They also made it seem as if Jimmy and Terry collaborated with Prince to help him shape the MPLSound.

Another thing that got me is that they pulled videos from youtube (for the music videos). There was no need for them to do that when they could have called Universal to get decent quality versions of all of their videos.

Also, I got annoyed when they showed a home pic of Joyce that had a big-ass finger print across her hair. That should have been cleaned up before they edited that.
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Reply #55 posted 11/16/09 11:22am

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since when? Solar was never apart of mca.


They recorded their final album in 1990 for MCA The Maxx is Back
before they were dropped. Solar probably was never part of MCA
but Constellation was in 1986 on their self titled album.
Constellation was distributed by MCA then.

I know that, but others have stated that Constellation was a subsidiary of SOLAR and that wasn't true.
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Reply #56 posted 11/16/09 11:23am

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since when? Solar was never apart of mca.


Solar was distributed through Epic just ask Shalamar, Babyface, and Midnight Star lol
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SOLAR was distributed through several different companies. Among them Capital, EMI, BMG and CBS/EPIC. At that time Klymaxx was at Solar, I believe they were being distributed by BMG.
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Reply #57 posted 11/16/09 11:48am

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Sorry guys but Klymaxx had 7 hits. Their followup album to Meeting in the Ladies Room spawned 3 top 20 hits. Sexy was #18 r&b,I'd Still Say Yes
was #7 r&b,and Divas Need Love Too was #14 r&b. They had one more top 10
hit with Good Love in 1990. Never underestimate the power of Klymaxx. lol
To me this was the most interesting episode this season. Tina Marie's
episode was very bland. There was nothing that really inhibited her success.
Bootsy's episode was okay but i didn't learn anything new there either.
This unsung was well put together much like Shalamar's.

Hmm well thats why everybody got opinions because this episode was not all that to me. This was about women who want to make it big, talented women, but were all for themselves rolleyes They were the reason they never really hit big successes. I guess the real Klymaxx fans would realize they had 7 hits, but to the average, its like they 3 hits with ALL THE ORIGINAL MEMBERS and then they started cat fighting over...what? And Shalamr's Unsung? rolleyes that one was a big old bitch fest too. At least with the Bootsy Unsung you could smile and laugh along with him while appreciating his music. And he did become a real success. In the end he just didn't disappear like Klymaxx, he's still touring, recording, writing, etc. This isn't to go back and forth with you, but just wanted to give my opinion as well. thumbs up!
[Edited 11/16/09 3:35am]


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Reply #58 posted 11/16/09 12:22pm

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Reply #59 posted 11/16/09 12:26pm

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Klymaxx and the MJGs fell apart at the same got damn time too. disbelief


In the end Klymaxx was basically tryin 2 be an answer to "The Time", but they never had half the chops that even "Taste Of Honey" had let alone Morris and the fellas. Then The Mary Jane Girls was another Vanity/Appollonia 6 destined 4 no more than 2 or three hits that you KNOW they didn't write lol


Wasn't the girl group concept Rick's before Prince? Either way
it wasn't even close as to who was more talented. Mary Jane Girls.
I disagree with the Taste of Honey assessment. whofarted
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