ya'll are so funny

It's horribly ironic that anyone who pays to see this is putting money into the pockets of those that helped to kill MJ.

Yeah, I'll pass.

Some fans will go to almost any lengths to portray Michael as a victim wronged by the world. It fits in nicely with how they view him as a messiah figure. Yes, Michael looked thin in the last few months of his life. He also looked equally as thin here:



^^ That was a year before he passed so I don't buy this theory that he was wasting away under the stress of it all. He looks invested in all the clips I've seen. He looks far more healthy and happy than he did at the MSG shows back in 2001.

I think what happened to MJ was a freak accident. He had messed around with propofol before and thought he would be okay. It's hard to accept but I believe it to be the truth.
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MattyJam said:

I the clips, he looks HIGH on pain killers to me. To an addict, hydro/oxy- codone/codines, any of the opiates, give U LOTS of energy and amp U up. Merely speaking from personal experience. THe only reason for a man in his health at his age, in his condition to be performing like that, without a seeming care in the world.

It was by no means a FREAK accident. It was BOUND to happen and he did it to himself. Mike is a victim to no one but his addiction.
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I saw no clips where he looks high. Which clips are you referring to? He looked high as a kit on the MSG shows in 2001, his eyes are drowsy-looking and he does not look well.

But from the clips I've seen of the TII rehearsals he looks healthy and happy. I'm not saying there wasn't a problem behind the scenes. I actually believe there was. I was alarmed by how often MJ was going to Dr. Kleins office in the six weeks leading up to June 25th. He was there on almost a daily basis and would be there for hours at a time. What was he doing? I mentioned this on some fan forums and was lambusted for saying so, with fans saying it was none of my business etc.

None of us know the reasons for MJ's visits, but these fans who accuse AEG of controlling him while he was in some kind of induced state sound pretty deluded to me. That sounds completely absurd.
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MattyJam said:

I agree with U on the whole AEG thing. Their job is to make money. Mike has ...or had...a mind of his own and can agree OR not agree with any proposals put forth to him.


As to the high thing. Opiate addicts develop tolerances to the substance that "persuade" them into Mike's situation. MANY opiate addicts be high as a kite but are able to control the outward appearing affects of the drug. I was trying to convey the idea that for an Opiate addicts, to a limit, opiates don't make them sluggish, drowsy, or weak by ANY means. It's gives them energy to get up...it makes them feel almost "normal" so to speak. I speak from personal experience.

To put it all out there. At one point I was taking 20-30 norco 10's...that's DOUBLE the strength of a normal norco...a day. That's 200-300 miligrams of narcotic A DAY. I wasn't sleeping AT ALL. I'd be up for days straight. Cleaning the house, moping, washing clothes, shampooing carpet, being "normal". In fact, doing things I'm normally to lazy to do.

I see an old man with worries...kids...more stresses than the average person yet still able to rehears and do the things he was doing...BECAUSE HE WAS HIGH AS A MOFO, no because he's a GREAT individual...he just a human like the rest of us....did he LOOK high so to speak. No..but he wasn't behaving like a person in his positon would be.

Edit: and I think it's sad that AEG is milking this unfortunate situation for everything it's got.
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BOOO! That site is a bunch of disgruntled fans who got their facts mixed up. In reality, we will NEVER know what exactly happened the day Michael died, so all of this nonsense these people are spewing is just that: nonsense. A glaring mis-fact is that he was 108 lbs when he died, when he was actually about 136 pounds or so. I wish they would get SOME facts right before they start getting all holier than thou with their message.

Proceeds from the film also go the Estate, which I'm sure needs the cash. I undestand the fans doing something like this though. Death is a mean abrupt end and it will take years for some people to accept. Who wouldn't have rather had MJ alive today. He was the King! Just look how mad the world has gone, with the dancing tributes, videos etc etc etc...There will never be someone bigger than Michael Jackson.

I think he was visiting Dr Klein so often to iron out his face with botox. It's just all so ironic that he dies of heart failure with a cardiologist "supposedly" at his side. I don't think the dr is blameless in all of this. He was badly in debt and when people need money desperately they'll do anything, goodbye to ethics.

BobGeorge909 said:

He doesn't look high to me. I've seen clips of Michael rehearsing (Bad Tour, Dangerous Tour, for videos) and he acted the same in the clips of This Is It that he did for those performances

In the clips I saw, Michael didn't look doped up.

Timmy84 said:

thank you, i don't know what some people are talking about.

Revolution said:

AEG already made their money when they sold the footage to SONY so it's too late for that.

I can't wait for this shit to be over my mind has to move on to other things now just depressing shit .

babybugz said:

u can move on now if u want

Revolution said:

Me too.

Well I for one am majorly hyped about seeing TII.

Four days to go.....

MattyJam said:

Okay, that's kinda deep, that This is not it. com site is a place to go vent, look Michael will be missed! Just the other day sittin up in a dentist office I even got sentimential because they would NOT STOP playing his music back to back! Michael is not gonna be risen from the dead, get over it. I am going to see the movie as well.

Michael DOES look sickly in that picture and anybody that thinks he look healthy is delusional. He is not at a healthy weight and he's wearing tacky pajama bottoms with a damn dinner jacket? Micheal was a shell of himself in THAT picture. I don't care WHAT his autopsy said it was obviously something going on with him, that was not right. Fixers did a good job in keeping us guessing on Michael's death because we will NEVER know what actually happened to Michael except Dr. Murray Conrad, so case closed!

I heard about this site but refused to go to it. I hate to say it but I'm tired of all the conspiracy talk. I think the fans that feel that way have reason to but at the end of the day Michael is gone and there's nothing they/we can do about it. I hope anyone who didn't have his best interest in mind suffers the consequences.

That site is as worst as that... well I'm not gonna say it because Tony will come in here so lemme shut up. Tiffany Evans is watching.