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Reply #60 posted 10/22/09 5:58am

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Does anyone know if

Where Are You Now
Your'e Supposed to keep Your Love For Me

along with Buttercup were written by SW for MJ for the 1974 album, or if SW wrote these songs in the mid 70s, but not especially for Mj but for Jermaine, or if they all were written in 1979 für Jermaine?

I think Let's Get Serious sounds so like Hotter Than July-Stevie (I reckon most of the songs were written in 1979/80) and that it was not written earlier.

I'm still not totally satisfied with the Hotter Than July album. This would be my favorite tracklist:

1. Let’s Get Serious
2. All I Do
3. Rocket Love
4. What Are You Going To Do With It
5. Ribbon In The Sky
6. Master Blaster
7. Do Like You
8. You Are My Heaven
9. Lately
10. Happy Birthday

Would make the perfect album!
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Reply #61 posted 10/22/09 8:05am

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graecophilos said:

Does anyone know if

Where Are You Now
Your'e Supposed to keep Your Love For Me

along with Buttercup were written by SW for MJ for the 1974 album, or if SW wrote these songs in the mid 70s, but not especially for Mj but for Jermaine, or if they all were written in 1979 für Jermaine?

I think Let's Get Serious sounds so like Hotter Than July-Stevie (I reckon most of the songs were written in 1979/80) and that it was not written earlier.

I'm still not totally satisfied with the Hotter Than July album. This would be my favorite tracklist:

1. Let’s Get Serious
2. All I Do
3. Rocket Love
4. What Are You Going To Do With It
5. Ribbon In The Sky
6. Master Blaster
7. Do Like You
8. You Are My Heaven
9. Lately
10. Happy Birthday

Would make the perfect album!


Your'e Supposed to keep Your Love For Me and Buttercup were recorded in 1974 for the Jackson 5/MJ album produced by Stevie. The original version You're Supposed To Keep Your Love For Me had Jermaine on lead with Stevie, Michael, and Jackie on background vocals
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Reply #62 posted 10/22/09 9:29am

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Superstition said:

I really don't get the hate for the song either.

I get that's it's not this macho, uber-brilliant piece of craft that is something like Superstition, Visions, or pretty much any other tune he penned in the 70's, but it's far from "the worst song ever". I mean... really...

I think the standard we hold great artists to is a bit ridiculous sometimes.


Last year Stevie played this at a concert in Holland and the entire crowd sang along and loved it. It's a nice although, although my favourite is Lately. That's a work of perfection.
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Reply #63 posted 10/22/09 9:57am

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By the way, this was a great interpretation of Stevie's song and I'm an admirer of Raul Midon (I was one of the first on the org to start a thread about him) and of course Greg P.'s rep is without question.

Sidenote:
I swear if they ever make a movie about Herbie's life, Denzel AHS to play him. He HAS to.



Man I didn't notice they look-alike. biggrin
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Reply #64 posted 10/22/09 11:39am

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Bohemian67 said:

Superstition said:

I really don't get the hate for the song either.

I get that's it's not this macho, uber-brilliant piece of craft that is something like Superstition, Visions, or pretty much any other tune he penned in the 70's, but it's far from "the worst song ever". I mean... really...

I think the standard we hold great artists to is a bit ridiculous sometimes.


Last year Stevie played this at a concert in Holland and the entire crowd sang along and loved it. It's a nice although, although my favourite is Lately. That's a work of perfection.


In Germany it was the same. For Once In my Life, Sir Duke and IJCTSILY were the biggest crowd pleasers.

But that's probably due to the fact that in Germany not much more SW songs are known wink
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Reply #65 posted 10/22/09 1:18pm

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graecophilos said:

CoolTarik1 said:

Stevie is tops when it comes to songwriting... I mean, this dude came up with a two part song, "Superwoman(where were you when I needed you) which is just impressive lyrically as well musically. A lot of his songs kind of touch on things as matter of fact; See "Dont You Worry Bout a Thing" "Golden Lady" "Livin' for the City" but the fact that it was so accessible meant it reached many people from many background. At the same time he could be intensely personal, "Heaven Is" is definitely more Christian centered, but if taken the religious undertones.. its message is someone anyone who wants peace and love can feel.

My favorite lyrics is where he uses a turn of phrase, a saying to get his message across, like "Knocks me off My Feet" or "Moon Blue" genius stuff really.


Yeah, Moon Blue is underrated. I recently noticed how many songs on A Time To Love seem to be influenced by classic songwriting a la Cole Porter.

Moon Blue, How Will I Know and others.

Btw, was Moon Blue influenced by Blue Moon (by Al Bowlly)?


I don't know if it was directly influenced, but it probably holds the same sentiment as the saying "Once in a blue moon" Adds more emotion when he sings "Cause I'm not afraid of the consequence of being in love with you, and I rather wait alone some night, awaiting your full hue"

Yes, I think Stevie really was in a more 50's to 60's feel, especially with the jazzy arrangements of "My Love is on Fire" "Passionate Raindrops" "True Love" Its not innovative like his 70's and early 80's music, but its amazingly well done.
At this point in history, we have a choice to make
To either, walk the path of love, or be crippled by our hate
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Reply #66 posted 10/22/09 1:20pm

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graecophilos said:

Superstition said:



For Once In My Life is also a cover but I would consider a Motown classic. He didn't say it was a Motown original.

We Can Work It Out may be a cover, but I also consider it the definitive version.


I'm still not sure which version I like better.

But FOIML is a Jobete song, isn't it? So it was written by some Motown songwriter?

Anyway, if I'd name you 30 typical SW or 30 typical Motown songs, We Can Work It Out would not be on the list.


That might be true, but Stevies re-working of the beatles classic really does capture a certain youthful exuberance that Motown was known for, especially Stevie Wonder recordings
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Reply #67 posted 10/22/09 2:43pm

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CoolTarik1 said:

graecophilos said:



Yeah, Moon Blue is underrated. I recently noticed how many songs on A Time To Love seem to be influenced by classic songwriting a la Cole Porter.

Moon Blue, How Will I Know and others.

Btw, was Moon Blue influenced by Blue Moon (by Al Bowlly)?


I don't know if it was directly influenced, but it probably holds the same sentiment as the saying "Once in a blue moon" Adds more emotion when he sings "Cause I'm not afraid of the consequence of being in love with you, and I rather wait alone some night, awaiting your full hue"

Yes, I think Stevie really was in a more 50's to 60's feel, especially with the jazzy arrangements of "My Love is on Fire" "Passionate Raindrops" "True Love" Its not innovative like his 70's and early 80's music, but its amazingly well done.


I really hope the promised two albums will be released soon!!!

Man, he's got so many songs left, he could fool us by releasing just 70s outtakes!
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Reply #68 posted 10/22/09 4:02pm

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graecophilos said:

CoolTarik1 said:



I don't know if it was directly influenced, but it probably holds the same sentiment as the saying "Once in a blue moon" Adds more emotion when he sings "Cause I'm not afraid of the consequence of being in love with you, and I rather wait alone some night, awaiting your full hue"

Yes, I think Stevie really was in a more 50's to 60's feel, especially with the jazzy arrangements of "My Love is on Fire" "Passionate Raindrops" "True Love" Its not innovative like his 70's and early 80's music, but its amazingly well done.


I really hope the promised two albums will be released soon!!!

Man, he's got so many songs left, he could fool us by releasing just 70s outtakes!


Lol. He could. But this man is more of a perfectionist than Prince when it comes to his music; in the sense that he'll labor over a song til he has it just right.

Actually, what I would love to see, or hear Stevie do is going back for producing for other people. Not that he has to do either, since he's living comfortably from his earning from when he started out, but I feel he could show how to make great RnB albums by collaborating like he did in the seventies and eighties
At this point in history, we have a choice to make
To either, walk the path of love, or be crippled by our hate
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Reply #69 posted 10/22/09 4:38pm

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CoolTarik1 said:

graecophilos said:



I really hope the promised two albums will be released soon!!!

Man, he's got so many songs left, he could fool us by releasing just 70s outtakes!


Lol. He could. But this man is more of a perfectionist than Prince when it comes to his music; in the sense that he'll labor over a song til he has it just right.

Actually, what I would love to see, or hear Stevie do is going back for producing for other people. Not that he has to do either, since he's living comfortably from his earning from when he started out, but I feel he could show how to make great RnB albums by collaborating like he did in the seventies and eighties


well, did he have producers on his last album?

The production on A Time To Love was quite good, timeless production. But that's also the reason he can't produce too many. A Justin Timberlake doesn't seek this kinda sound.

Maybe Stevie could produce Alicia Keys? Imagine that.
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