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http://theybf.com/index.p...more-17326

I know I'm gonna start some $#!&, but why would anyone want to take credit for that stuff? The lyrics are about as deep as a puddle!


Just sayin'....

but I'm sure she choreogra....wait, never mind

Beyonce is about as original as sliced bread.

however fired ex employees aren't the greatest sources either

hmmm I use to have a friend that would school me on how Beyonce's a fraud songwriter. I think he's a big fan of her now.

Thier is more ghost writing going on than u think.

But she helped! [Says the person who tossed the salad after it's been made.]

In other news, the sky is blue.

I thought that it was known that she doesn't write music. She changes one word in an entire song and gets a writers credit.

I think the only thing she's probably earned her credit on was "Halo". The Ryan Tedder demo is far worse then how she sang it...

chocolate1 said:

It's not a matter of how good the lyrics are....people take credit for songwriting so they can get a piece of the publishing royalties. Songwriters and publishers get paid for every CD or download sold, airplay on radio or TV, if someone does a remake or remix of a song, and for licesning to films and other projects.

I've heard stories of some performers who won't record a song unless they get a co-writer credit even if they didn't help write the song (music or lyrics).

ABeautifulOne said:

Ryan Tedder used the same music for "Halo" and the Kelly Clarkson song "Already Gone".

Here's an article about it:
http://www.huffingtonpost...45243.html

Is it really that shocking?

You guys forget the fiascos over the B'Day album already?

DerekH said:

Yeah I remember this too.

DerekH said:

i've read that about dolly parton's 'i will always love you'. seems that elvis agreed to record it *if* he could get songwriting credit on it. dolly walked away rather than give in to what would have been a sure hit by elvis. she knew the song was good, and she that it would be a hit even if she sang it. and it was! then of course, it became an even bigger hit when whitney sang the hell out of it.

it was kind of standard practice for many popular singers to do this, as there is much more money in publishing rights than there are in only singing a song.

what's next, that's not her real hair on her head?

I take nothing from Beyonce. She's an incredible singer and performer, but she isn't a song writer at all. She'll change ONE word and get writers credit (which of course, is acceptable), but she makes it seem like she writes everything on it. For example, when she was performing in Japan, she told the audience that "she wrote 'irreplaceable' for all the women out there". Beyonce didn't write any lyric from that song. If she's such a good writer, why hasn't she wrote a song solely by herself?

Graycap23 said:

TiffanyEvans said:

DerekH said:

Interesting, thank you for posting.

Halo!

Halo!

Halo!

Haaaaayyyyyloooowwwww

I KNEW she couldn't have written them! None of them are about her "happy marriage"

Still a beautiful album though, the ballad disc that is.

DerekH said:

I knew that when I clicked on "post response".
I was just sayin'....

She wrote "Ahh Beyonce Beyonce" part of Beautiful Liar

chocolate1 said:

Because it makes her look like some genius or whatever, that she is prolific in putting out all that material, so quickly. She talked once about being on a plane, and couldn't sleep, and pulled out her iPod or tapes of loops that she had. One was the Stevie Nicks loop, and that's where she ended up writing "Bootylicious". Whether that's true or not, that was her story.

She said she wrote all the songs on B-Day while away for TWO WEEKS. She took off on a "vacation" (what she told her family), and actually went to a studio in the tropics somewhere and wrote the whole album in two weeks.

I kind of agree about the "vocal arrangement" part and how they can claim some sort of credit by it. It's a farce.

ViintageJunkiie said:

Not nit picking, but that's not true. There's a thing called intellectual property, and copyright. Basic copyright says that the creator owns copyright, and that copyright is assumed, at the time of creation of the article (song, book, lyric, photograph, etc).

Vanilla Ice made that argument about "Ice Ice Baby" and that the sample was different from Queen's "Under Pressure" because there was one extra note in that bass line. The courts saw it quite differently, and Ice lost that argument.

The "Irreplaceable" thing is a big hiccup on her part. It's quite well known who wrote that song, and that she did NOT write it.

And on another note about her, stuff like "Deja Vu", "Crazy In Love", and those "sample" songs, aren't really song writing at all. The whole "vocal arrangement" thing is what gives her a lyric credit, and she can claim she came up with the melody. But for a song to survive off a sample for 90% of the song isn't song writing. I like how Janet/Jam/Lewis INCORPORATE a sample into a song like "That's The Way Love Goes", "Rhythm Nation", "You Want This", "If", or "Erotica" from Madonna. Whereas songs like "All For You" from Janet, or those upbeat songs from Beyonce RELY on the sample for the whole basis of the song. Anyone can sample a song and sing over it. That is NOT song writing.

Harlepolis said:

and crazy in love

DerekH said:

Exactly. Standard industry practice - unfortunately

When she was in Destiny's Child, I thought of her as a songwriter. No, really, I did. She won some big songwriting award and was credited as the songwriter for DC. But when she went solo it seems the truth came out. I don't think anyone really talks about her as a legit songwriter now. Not like they do Sara Bareilles, Keri Hilson or even Alicia Keys (who usually co-writes, but seems to at least be a creative force behind the structure of the song). Beyonce's image and approach to music seems very cynical to me.

beyonce is a musical and lyrical genius

bettybop said: