Timmy84 said: midiscover said: Good job, Timmy!
Off topic- I've never seen this picture before You've never seen that before? lol No.... Janet looks scared | |
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midiscover said: trueiopian said: You sound really bitter. I don't know what the f--k your issue is with Janet but I suggest you seek psychiatric help and overcome this obessive hate you have of her. THX! and when I say artistic depth I mean as in she branched out and experimented with her music. Yes, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis were a big part of the creative process (because it's their job) but Janet is the Don of it all. and I'm well aware of her latest poor efforts but shit! how many times are you going to bring it up? You must love kicking people when they're already down. Acutally, that goes for all the people that snubbed her over the years. But whatever! You make me happy!! Damita Ho! I love it! | |
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midiscover said: Timmy84 said: You've never seen that before? lol No.... Janet looks scared She probably was. On the other hand, she does look like Katherine spit her out. | |
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Timmy84 said: midiscover said: No.... Janet looks scared She probably was. On the other hand, she does look like Katherine spit her out. There's a picture of Joe holding Randy and his face is priceless | |
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[Edited 10/15/09 23:26pm] RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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midiscover said: bboy87 said: I see you in that Stevie/Prince thread laughin' you ain't laughin' now! Prince was probably tipsy and mixed MJ up for Janet Janet's the genius. Is that Sha Nay Nay aka Martin Lawrence? RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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Please. Why would MJ be fearful of Prince when he's owned Prince for the most part of his career success wise. | |
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psychodelicide said: midiscover said: Prince was probably tipsy and mixed MJ up for Janet Janet's the genius. Is that Sha Nay Nay aka Martin Lawrence? Yep. "heyyyyy" | |
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ernestsewell said: Timmy84 said: Sounds tabloidish.
No, it's from a recorded interview w/ Ebony magazine. They played those clips right after his death. It was the last interview he did before his death (a few years before actually). However, he could have been talking about his song, or Prince in general. Let's also remember that it's a bunch of bullshit to think MJ was up fretting over Prince. Even when that interview took place, which was July 2008, Prince wasn't exactly selling oodles of records (not without having included them in the price of a concert ticket). It doesn't seem logical that MJ would be fretting over Prince getting ideas instead of him. Also, the gifts of God are without repentance, meaning that once God gives someone a gift, any gift, whether it's an idea for a show, a book idea, a picture to draw, a song to write, or a mouth to feed, He never takes it back. He doesn't renege on gifts. MJ's focus was a bit off, but his alleged fretting over Prince isn't what sent him to the grave. I dont understand what you mean "Itwas the last interview he did before his death"- I thought this thread was about what the promoter was saying. And I dont think anybody here in their right mind would contradict you on the fact that MJ should not have been worried about Prince-but isn't that the point, that if he was it shows that he was a bit neurotic. I dont know how true any of this is, all I'm saying is if he was concerned about Prince then that in itself highlights something a bit awry about Mivhael Jackson. Also if it was true MJ must have been so frustrated-I mean if MJ was releasing his type of music and thought Prince was so talented with his type of music, wouldnt it just depress him. Ultimately I don't believe any of it-I feel MJ was too part of the industry and too much of an egomaniac to ever believe Prince was either equal and/Or superior to him | |
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ernestsewell said: Timmy84 said: Sounds tabloidish.
No, it's from a recorded interview w/ Ebony magazine. They played those clips right after his death. It was the last interview he did before his death (a few years before actually). However, he could have been talking about his song, or Prince in general. Let's also remember that it's a bunch of bullshit to think MJ was up fretting over Prince. Even when that interview took place, which was July 2008, Prince wasn't exactly selling oodles of records (not without having included them in the price of a concert ticket). It doesn't seem logical that MJ would be fretting over Prince getting ideas instead of him. I think it's less about fretting and more about MJ having a healthy respect for Prince...You have to remember when that interview took place...Prince had just come off of the record-breaking 21 Nights gigs in the UK....And his reputation was still golden after having his album debut 1 two years before(3121). Then there was the Super Bowl gig, which was universally cited as the best musical SB performance of all time... It's no secret that Prince's immense success at London's 02 prompted MJ to create his own residency there....So yeah...it seems very "logical" that a competitive MJ was being inspired by Prince's overall "comeback"..... | |
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@ Prince fams threatened by Michael. | |
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i am a fan of both artist but how can they compare?
Thriller ruined Jacksons ability to grow as a musician. In my opinion Michael did his best when he was in the Jacksons band. Blues Away sounds more mature and sophisticated then most of Michaels solo work Michael was amazing singer but how could he do a better artistic show then Prince? Jacksons tour were always the same since Victory. The same setlist,same choreography since 1984 Victory tour, with only one thing changing,more and more his emotions were fake and more playback in the concerts. If Michael had the balls to go out in Arena and sit down with acoustic guitar and if he strummed it and sing set list like this: This Place Hotel I Cant Help it Blues Away Blame it on Boogie Dont stop till u Get Enough We're almost There with no Billie Jean or other obligatory stuff , then i would think different,but yes he was great in his own merits but as a musician he could never compare to Prince never. Imagine prince still doing same arangments with same setlist like Purple Rain tour with same costumes,we'll be bored to that. Prince maybe don't have big statues,pyrotehnics and he don't cry during his songs like Michael cried everytime during She's Out of my Life but P could go out with only his piano and voice and wake up kind of deeper emotions then Jackson ever did. so i say Jackson could have been great great artist but instead of learning a lick or to on any instrument he was too busy hanging out with kids and Liz Taylor... shame | |
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bboy87 said: Revolution said: MJ was obsessed....
If I remember correctly, it was a joke Michael made to Kenny @ people on the Org thinking Michael was obsessed with Prince or vice versa. I took it as 2 icons who had a friendly competition over the years. They had alot of respect for each other Exactly. If Mike ever said that, it sounds more like a joke to me. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really donĀ“t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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If he was still trying to rival Prince then he's crazier than I thought because Prince hasn't been successful in the mainstream in years. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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dag said: bboy87 said: If I remember correctly, it was a joke Michael made to Kenny @ people on the Org thinking Michael was obsessed with Prince or vice versa. I took it as 2 icons who had a friendly competition over the years. They had alot of respect for each other Exactly. If Mike ever said that, it sounds more like a joke to me. I think MJ was still upset losing to Prince in table tennis. | |
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vainandy said: If he was still trying to rival Prince then he's crazier than I thought because Prince hasn't been successful in the mainstream in years.
As opposed to Michael, who's been releasing album after album and successful tour after successful tour in the 00's? Typo [Edited 10/16/09 8:24am] | |
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thebumpsquad said: vainandy said: If he was still trying to rival Prince then he's crazier than I thought because Prince hasn't been successful in the mainstream in years.
As opposed to Michael, who's been releasing album after album and successful tour after successful tour in the 00's? Typo [Edited 10/16/09 8:24am] Neither one of them have been successful, that was my point. Being unsuccessful these days isn't a bad thing though, it's a good thing because look at what is successful these days. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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ernestsewell said: Also, the gifts of God are without repentance, meaning that once God gives someone a gift, any gift, whether it's an idea for a show, a book idea, a picture to draw, a song to write, or a mouth to feed, He never takes it back. He doesn't renege on gifts. MJ's focus was a bit off, but his alleged fretting over Prince isn't what sent him to the grave. Wisdom. | |
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midiscover said: Timmy84 said: You've never seen that before? lol No.... Janet looks scared People seriously need to stop reading into shit and creating boogymen where there are none. I was justt about to remark what a beautiful chil she was with those full doe eyes | |
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ernestsewell said: Timmy84 said: Sounds tabloidish.
No, it's from a recorded interview w/ Ebony magazine. They played those clips right after his death. It was the last interview he did before his death (a few years before actually). However, he could have been talking about his song, or Prince in general. Let's also remember that it's a bunch of bullshit to think MJ was up fretting over Prince. Even when that interview took place, which was July 2008, Prince wasn't exactly selling oodles of records (not without having included them in the price of a concert ticket). It doesn't seem logical that MJ would be fretting over Prince getting ideas instead of him. Also, the gifts of God are without repentance, meaning that once God gives someone a gift, any gift, whether it's an idea for a show, a book idea, a picture to draw, a song to write, or a mouth to feed, He never takes it back. He doesn't renege on gifts. MJ's focus was a bit off, but his alleged fretting over Prince isn't what sent him to the grave. ----- Randy Phillips and Kenny Ortega and MJ's manager have now repeated this story numerous times it is not rubbish. MJ was worried about P but I think we all know that he was being silly and paranoid. P was never going to catch him sales wise and MJ has already sold out more shows at O2. Mike had worries but he manufactured those worries which is sad. | |
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Prince don't need to be succesful in mainstream because he is icon
and he filled London 02 arena every nite for 21 days who can do that Beyonce? Justin Lady Gaga i don't think so | |
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thebanishedone said: i am a fan of both artist but how can they compare? Thriller ruined Jacksons ability to grow as a musician. In my opinion Michael did his best when he was in the Jacksons band. Blues Away sounds more mature and sophisticated then most of Michaels solo work Michael was amazing singer but how could he do a better artistic show then Prince? Jacksons tour were always the same since Victory. The same setlist,same choreography since 1984 Victory tour, with only one thing changing,more and more his emotions were fake and more playback in the concerts. If Michael had the balls to go out in Arena and sit down with acoustic guitar and if he strummed it and sing set list like this: This Place Hotel I Cant Help it Blues Away Blame it on Boogie Dont stop till u Get Enough We're almost There with no Billie Jean or other obligatory stuff , then i would think different,but yes he was great in his own merits but as a musician he could never compare to Prince never. Imagine prince still doing same arangments with same setlist like Purple Rain tour with same costumes,we'll be bored to that. Prince maybe don't have big statues,pyrotehnics and he don't cry during his songs like Michael cried everytime during She's Out of my Life but P could go out with only his piano and voice and wake up kind of deeper emotions then Jackson ever did. so i say Jackson could have been great great artist but instead of learning a lick or to on any instrument he was too busy hanging out with kids and Liz Taylor... shame BOOOYAAAA!! Right from my thoughts. This Post is produced, arranged, composed and performed by WetDream | |
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Militant said: The way I see it (and bear in mind I'm a HUGE fan of both) is that Michael always saw Prince as his rival. Always. Michael instigated the "rivalry" and fed stories about to the media for PR purposes.
Prince never saw it that way, because he's always been just about the music mostly. Although I love their music equally, Prince has never concerned himself with PR stunts whereas Michael was all about that (giant statue of himself floating down the river anyone? ) I think Michael was very much intimidated by Prince's talent. I mean, if Michael had a musical idea in his head, it might take him a few days, a few engineers and a bunch of session musicians before he got it to where he wanted it, whereas Prince would bang out a hit in a few hours, play everything on it, mix it, boom. Also Prince was the one every other artist was attempting to copy musically. Everyone from Ready For The World to Phil Collins etc. And of course on top of Prince's own hits you had joints like "Manic Monday" and "Stand Back" getting a lot of play.Let's not forget that Janet and Latoya were big Prince fans and it's been said they would play "1999" and "Controversy" a lot at the Jackson HQ in Encino, and Michael was still living there too. I think Michael wanted to feel more in control. I hate to say it but I think "We Are The World" was an exercise in egomania as much as it was a charitible thing to do. All those big artists, singing Michael's song. It's no wonder Prince didn't want to be part of it, he was his own man. Same thing with him turning down "Bad". The idea for Prince and Michael to duet on "Bad" was purely done from a PR and hype perspective and not a musical one. We don't know how serious Michael's tone was, how he meant this statement he said to Kenny at the This Is It rehearsals, but let's remember that even when people say things like this jokingly there's usually some truth behind it. I've no doubt that he would have liked to beat Prince's record of 21 nights at the O2, but it was never gonna happen. Aside from Prince's alleged hip issues, Prince is a fit, healthy, drug-free man and even he was most likely exhausted at the end of his 12 nights residency. Even before MJ passed I was saying that if the shows did go ahead, there was no way that Michael would be able to do more than 10, at the very most. All the people around Michael simply saw dollar signs in their eyes. Nobody was concerned about his well-being. It's certainly not implausible to think that perhaps he wanted to cancel the whole thing, and so they killed him. [Edited 10/15/09 19:32pm] Print.....FRAME TRUTH. | |
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FAKE NEWS STORY OF THE WEEK! .....
NEXT WEEK ... Madonna and Blondie the "True" Rivalry ..... Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us! | |
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ernestsewell said: Timmy84 said: Sounds tabloidish.
No, it's from a recorded interview w/ Ebony magazine. They played those clips right after his death. It was the last interview he did before his death (a few years before actually). However, he could have been talking about his song, or Prince in general. Let's also remember that it's a bunch of bullshit to think MJ was up fretting over Prince. Even when that interview took place, which was July 2008, Prince wasn't exactly selling oodles of records (not without having included them in the price of a concert ticket). It doesn't seem logical that MJ would be fretting over Prince getting ideas instead of him. Also, the gifts of God are without repentance, meaning that once God gives someone a gift, any gift, whether it's an idea for a show, a book idea, a picture to draw, a song to write, or a mouth to feed, He never takes it back. He doesn't renege on gifts. MJ's focus was a bit off, but his alleged fretting over Prince isn't what sent him to the grave. I Totally Agree | |
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Timmy84 said: ernestsewell said: No, it's from a recorded interview w/ Ebony magazine. They played those clips right after his death. It was the last interview he did before his death (a few years before actually). However, he could have been talking about his song, or Prince in general. Let's also remember that it's a bunch of bullshit to think MJ was up fretting over Prince. Even when that interview took place, which was July 2008, Prince wasn't exactly selling oodles of records (not without having included them in the price of a concert ticket). It doesn't seem logical that MJ would be fretting over Prince getting ideas instead of him. Also, the gifts of God are without repentance, meaning that once God gives someone a gift, any gift, whether it's an idea for a show, a book idea, a picture to draw, a song to write, or a mouth to feed, He never takes it back. He doesn't renege on gifts. MJ's focus was a bit off, but his alleged fretting over Prince isn't what sent him to the grave. Yeah I see what you mean. I meant the way the title is, lol. I think the way MJ said it he was joking or something. If he was HIGH out of his mind on meds then paranoia could have been setting in. Most of his friends and even Latoya said Michael thought somebody was trying to kill him. The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. | |
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Wow, Prince.org is the only site that took Michael's quote seriously "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Ottensen said: midiscover said: No.... Janet looks scared People seriously need to stop reading into shit and creating boogymen where there are none. I was justt about to remark what a beautiful chil she was with those full doe eyes | |
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LondonStyle said: FAKE NEWS STORY OF THE WEEK! .....
NEXT WEEK ... Madonna and Blondie the "True" Rivalry ..... Actually, the way that the tabloid framed MJ's comment about Prince was "fake"....But the actual news is indeed true and was reported on a few months ago. It's from the mouth of Kenny Ortega...So the hardcore MJ fans who take issue with it should write Kenny a letter...lol | |
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suga10 said: Please. Why would MJ be fearful of Prince when he's owned Prince for the most part of his career success wise.
There's a wise saying...A man who has everything is a man who has nothing.... Think about it... [Edited 10/16/09 16:01pm] | |
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