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PrintableTimmy84 said: phunkdaddy said: I like Kirk Franklin but that was pure butchery of a classic song. 
[Edited 10/16/09 11:47am] I agree. Is there a song that he has not butchered? | |
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...because Maze is straight OLD SCHOOL and the youngsters are in love with mostly hip hop! The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines.  | |
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Timmy84 said: daPrettyman said: In this case, I wouldn't even say "pop". Hell, Maze never even got a Soul Train award or any other type of award that even acknowledged black music. Have they ever been on the NAACP awards? YES! Maze NEVER crossed over into the urban audience that well. It was usually a cult thing with Maze because they have a real old school feel to 'em, also a VERY laid-back approach. They didn't appeal to the black kids like Rick James and P-Funk and Cameo did. When Maze debuted, disco and funk dominated black radio and it was hard to really categorize Maze. Marvin termed it as "Smooth" 
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funkpill said: Timmy84 said: YES! Maze NEVER crossed over into the urban audience that well. It was usually a cult thing with Maze because they have a real old school feel to 'em, also a VERY laid-back approach. They didn't appeal to the black kids like Rick James and P-Funk and Cameo did. When Maze debuted, disco and funk dominated black radio and it was hard to really categorize Maze. Marvin termed it as "Smooth"
That's a good term.  | |
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phunkdaddy said: daPrettyman said: It didn't, but Kirk Franklin's "September" was a gospel and r&b hit. I like Kirk Franklin but that was pure butchery of a classic song.
[Edited 10/16/09 11:47am] Not denying it, but we were talking about radio play.  **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: PDogz said: I've always LOVED Maze, though never realized they hadn't won any awards. But if they haven't, I bet it was probably due to some personal issue. I've always wondered why Cameo hasn't won more awards or been inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. If artists like these aren't being recognized for their obvious talents, you know it must be personal.
Do you really think Cameo deserves a place in the RRHOF? Absolutely! Perhaps I'm biased. | |
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phunkdaddy said: True.Anytime you talk to a person who grew up listening
to pop music and you ask them about Cameo,the first and generally only thing come out their mouth is Word Up and Candy. I even had one guy tell me those were the only hits they had. 
They will never be inducted into the RRHOF which is cool. They are legendary without having to have that honor. I'll grant you that. As if the only song Rick James ever made was "Super Freak". | |
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Maze featuring Frankie Beverly, or sometimes called Frankie Beverly and Maze, are kind of like the Black Grateful Dead, in that they have a cult following and loyal legion of fans but never seem to get that total mainstream acceptance.
I personally have never really been into them, but I know people that will fork over big bucks to attend one of their shows. Other acts on the bill with them are not always so pleased at the lack of respect shown to them in regards to soundchecks, stage space and time allocation and even the amount of p.a. board available - but oh well. To get it, you must give it! Music Royalty in Motion | |
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RnBAmbassador said: Maze featuring Frankie Beverly, or sometimes called Frankie Beverly and Maze, are kind of like the Black Grateful Dead...
I always saw Parliament/Funkadelic as the Black Grateful Dead. | |
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^^ Me too. | |
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Can't really answer the mainstream success question, but I'm surprised that Franky Beverly is not getting much Prince.Org love. Happy Feelings, Can't Get over You, and Golden Time of Day. C'mon now, his music just makes ya feel like everything is gonna be alright. | |
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legendofnothing said: Can't really answer the mainstream success question, but I'm surprised that Franky Beverly is not getting much Prince.Org love. Happy Feelings, Can't Get over You, and Golden Time of Day. C'mon now, his music just makes ya feel like everything is gonna be alright.
I posted their music a couple of times, lol | |
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they have a solid fanbase
and this is what makes me smile 
all of their records have went gold or better that also makes me smile
many of my favorites don't get the recognition they should [Edited 10/17/09 18:58pm] because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." | |
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daPrettyman said: PDogz said: I've always LOVED Maze, though never realized they hadn't won any awards. But if they haven't, I bet it was probably due to some personal issue. I've always wondered why Cameo hasn't won more awards or been inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. If artists like these aren't being recognized for their obvious talents, you know it must be personal.
Do you really think Cameo deserves a place in the RRHOF? They hadn't really had a major impact on pop culture. I don't recall people walking around in red cod pieces and screaming AWW!
If there is/was an R&B hall of fame, I would definitely say yes. They have written some of the most influential r&b songs of all time. Not to mention almost every r&b fan knows the words to "Why Have I Lost You". LOL, oh what a world that would be. | |
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legendofnothing said: Can't really answer the mainstream success question, but I'm surprised that Franky Beverly is not getting much Prince.Org love. Happy Feelings, Can't Get over You, and Golden Time of Day. C'mon now, his music just makes ya feel like everything is gonna be alright.
Maze and Frankie get alot of love from me I listen to their music all the time.Songs like "Runnin Away","Before I Let Go","Southern Girl","The Look In Your Eyes","I Can't Get Over You","We Are One","Right On Time","I Wanna Thank You","Joy And Pain" and many more are CLASSICS,as far as I'm concerned. | |
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SoulAlive said: these ladies have the right idea! Check out what they're listening to
I love these music driving vids, I want to make one of me singing (badly) in my Jeep | |
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Cinnie said: SoulAlive said: these ladies have the right idea! Check out what they're listening to
I love these music driving vids, I want to make one of me singing (badly) in my JeepLet them come through Mississippi doing all that shaking around with no seat belt on. The police would wipe that smile off their faces real quick. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Cinnie said: SoulAlive said: these ladies have the right idea! Check out what they're listening to
I love these music driving vids, I want to make one of me singing (badly) in my JeepThat's one of my favorite Youtube clips.It shows you how much fun road trips can be | |
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vainandy said: Let them come through Mississippi doing all that shaking around with no seat belt on. The police would wipe that smile off their faces real quick. Du.. 
Bitch, who the fuck goes to Mississippi for FUN anywaaays   | |
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vainandy said: Let them come through Mississippi doing all that shaking around with no seat belt on. The police would wipe that smile off their faces real quick.
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Why should we give a fuck? The only thing that matters is those who love their msuic are supporting them via unit sales, and most importantly via touring. Frankie & 'nem ain't excatly going hungry  . They have active, vibrant ,lucrative careers, playing out consistently , doing what they love and sharing live music with thousands every year. Sorry, but I fail to see the issue here | |
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Ottensen said: Why should we give a fuck? The only thing that matters is those who love their msuic are supporting them via unit sales, and most importantly via touring. Frankie & 'nem ain't excatly going hungry
. They have active, vibrant ,lucrative careers, playing out consistently , doing what they love and sharing live music with thousands every year. Sorry, but I fail to see the issue here You have a very good point. For sure, Frankie, Moose, or any of the other guys don't look like they've missed a meal. .
Maze and Luther were very similar to each other. Especially early on. They were selling well, but the mainstream never gave them any awards. I think a lot of the problem with Maze not achieving major awards was their record company. I don't recall Capital or WB marketing them to the masses on a major level. I think WB tried with Back To Basics, but they failed because of what was going on with Urban music at the time. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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scriptgirl said: All their music SOUNDS THE SAME as does Frankie's voice. It amazes me that they ever got big at all.
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Ottensen said: Why should we give a fuck? The only thing that matters is those who love their msuic are supporting them via unit sales, and most importantly via touring. Frankie & 'nem ain't excatly going hungry
. They have active, vibrant ,lucrative careers, playing out consistently , doing what they love and sharing live music with thousands every year. Sorry, but I fail to see the issue here ----- Co-sign. It is only issue for people who care about what white folks think (and don't start screaming racism becuase white people are the majority population in the US and pop music is marketed toward a white audience). Frankie has a large following, can sign his ass off,has a great band that knows how to play live and he is star as far as I am concerned without the adualation of a white pop audience. In fact I feel sorry for those that miss out on such great RnB bands. | |
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Harlepolis said: vainandy said: Let them come through Mississippi doing all that shaking around with no seat belt on. The police would wipe that smile off their faces real quick. Du..
Bitch, who the fuck goes to Mississippi for FUN anywaaays I'm saying, Andy, come to North Carolina or something!  | |
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scriptgirl said: All their music SOUNDS THE SAME as does Frankie's voice. It amazes me that they ever got big at all.
Amen...and again amen. You summed it up for me quite nicely. I never understood the success of this group but in DC, they would sell out the old Washington Convention Center over and over again. You couldn't have given me a ticket to go to any of them...with the exception of them opening for Sade. I would have arrived fashionably late for that one though. | |
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They have a few top 40 pop albums (including 25 and 27.) BUt only for top 100 pop singles, number 67 is their highest with Feel That You're Feelin. PRINCE: Always and Forever
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One thing I like about Maze is,they have never "sold out".They have stayed true to their style.No rappers on their songs,no trendy gimmicks,no lame samples,just good old fashioned soul and funk jams.I think that's the reason for their longevity. | |
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SoulAlive said: One thing I like about Maze is,they have never "sold out".They have stayed true to their style.No rappers on their songs,no trendy gimmicks,no lame samples,just good old fashioned soul and funk jams.I think that's the reason for their longevity.
When was the last time they released a new song? Not counting the new cd of covers. | |
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Graycap23 said: SoulAlive said: One thing I like about Maze is,they have never "sold out".They have stayed true to their style.No rappers on their songs,no trendy gimmicks,no lame samples,just good old fashioned soul and funk jams.I think that's the reason for their longevity.
When was the last time they released a new song? Not counting the new cd of covers. The Brothers soundtrack in the late 90s. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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