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Thread started 10/07/09 8:20pm

midiscover

Hidden message on Velvet rope by Janet

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Reply #1 posted 10/07/09 9:05pm

ernestsewell

Utter nonsense. If someone just HEARD that without the visual guidance as to what was said, no one would ever "hear" that. The power of suggestion is stronger than any actual "message" on the song.

And read the bullshit if the caption for the video:
The Velvet Rope was one of Janet's darkest, and most personal albums. It was a very thought provoking album, and every second was carefully crafted. Throughout the album, Janet uses a "velvet rope" as a metaphor for several different things. The rope separating the VIP lounge in the club, a barrier you put up to guard your inner thoughts, and even a rope used as sexual pleasure. But if you reverse the title track, "Velvet Rope," you hear Janet's metaphor of a velvet rope for "suicide." Let me say that I don't think Janet is condoning suicide, but The Velvet Rope was an album made for those who are depressed, and going through dark times in their life. Suicide does cross a lot of people's mind when they are in a depressed state, and I feel that this is just a representation of true life.

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Reply #2 posted 10/07/09 9:08pm

Timmy84

Subliminal my ass, lol
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Reply #3 posted 10/07/09 9:12pm

Cinnie

That's some BOOLSHEIT lol
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Reply #4 posted 10/07/09 9:13pm

midiscover

spit

I heard the whole thing on reverse and Janet said something about following angels. It might be true
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Reply #5 posted 10/07/09 9:50pm

Timmy84

midiscover said:

spit

I heard the whole thing on reverse and Janet said something about following angels. It might be true


Don't take it too seriously.
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Reply #6 posted 10/07/09 10:13pm

midiscover

Timmy84 said:

midiscover said:

spit

I heard the whole thing on reverse and Janet said something about following angels. It might be true


Don't take it too seriously.


Why? lol
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Reply #7 posted 10/07/09 11:12pm

ernestsewell

midiscover said:

spit

I heard the whole thing on reverse and Janet said something about following angels. It might be true


Up next: Monkey's fly out of her butt to signal the end times.
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Reply #8 posted 10/07/09 11:19pm

midiscover

ernestsewell said:

midiscover said:

spit

I heard the whole thing on reverse and Janet said something about following angels. It might be true


Up next: Monkey's fly out of her butt to signal the end times.


Have you heard it in reverse?
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Reply #9 posted 10/07/09 11:23pm

ernestsewell

midiscover said:

ernestsewell said:



Up next: Monkey's fly out of her butt to signal the end times.


Have you heard it in reverse?


I watched the suggestive video. If you had just LISTENED, and NOT seen the words, you would have heard gibberish. But when someone puts the words in front of you, suddenly it's like "Ohhhh, I hear it now!" It's called the power of suggestion, and quite frankly...the power of cheese. No one records things hoping they say something backwards. Janet's whole soul is on the album, FORWARD. She's never pulled a stunt like that before, or since, why would she then? It's dumb. Folks shouldn't be gullible. This was a big craze in the mid 80's with songs from Led Zepplin, The Beatles (TURN ME ON DEAD MAN), etc.

ELO, Pink Floyd and Prince did backwards things to mock the very idea of backward masking.
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Reply #10 posted 10/07/09 11:24pm

trueiopian

Wow! that's scarey! I just listened to it in reverse and she said something about following angels..... eek

I love the violin solo in reverse smile
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Reply #11 posted 10/07/09 11:26pm

midiscover

ernestsewell said:

midiscover said:



Have you heard it in reverse?


I watched the suggestive video. If you had just LISTENED, and NOT seen the words, you would have heard gibberish. But when someone puts the words in front of you, suddenly it's like "Ohhhh, I hear it now!" It's called the power of suggestion, and quite frankly...the power of cheese. No one records things hoping they say something backwards. Janet's whole soul is on the album, FORWARD. She's never pulled a stunt like that before, or since, why would she then? It's dumb. Folks shouldn't be gullible. This was a big craze in the mid 80's with songs from Led Zepplin, The Beatles (TURN ME ON DEAD MAN), etc.

ELO, Pink Floyd and Prince did backwards things to mock the very idea of backward masking.


The person only posted the first few seconds of the song I'm talking about the middle part. You can clearly hear what she's saying and she saying something about following angels and I can't really make out her background vocals but you never know. Didn't she have hidden tracks on the janet. and TVR album?
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Reply #12 posted 10/07/09 11:31pm

midiscover

trueiopian said:

Wow! that's scarey! I just listened to it in reverse and she said something about following angels..... eek

I love the violin solo in reverse smile


SEE!! I'm not the only one!! lol

and I agree the violins sound amazinggg in reverse love
Janet such a genius!
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Reply #13 posted 10/07/09 11:31pm

ernestsewell

midiscover said:

The person only posted the first few seconds of the song I'm talking about the middle part. You can clearly hear what she's saying and she saying something about following angels and I can't really make out her background vocals but you never know. Didn't she have hidden tracks on the janet. and TVR album?


No you can't "clearly" hear anything on the backwards stuff. As far as forward, the lyrics are there, read them. There was nothing backwards! Words don't just suddenly say something backwards AND forwards. Do you realize how difficult and time consuming that is to put together phonetically? I mean, COME ON. Get a grip on that one. So yes, I do know.

Hidden tracks and backwards bullshit are different. Everyone has a hidden track. It's common place almost. She's never pull some mysterious backwards stunt like this.
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Reply #14 posted 10/07/09 11:35pm

midiscover

ernestsewell said:

midiscover said:

The person only posted the first few seconds of the song I'm talking about the middle part. You can clearly hear what she's saying and she saying something about following angels and I can't really make out her background vocals but you never know. Didn't she have hidden tracks on the janet. and TVR album?


No you can't "clearly" hear anything on the backwards stuff. As far as forward, the lyrics are there, read them. There was nothing backwards! Words don't just suddenly say something backwards AND forwards. Do you realize how difficult and time consuming that is to put together phonetically? I mean, COME ON. Get a grip on that one. So yes, I do know.

Hidden tracks and backwards bullshit are different. Everyone has a hidden track. It's common place almost. She's never pull some mysterious backwards stunt like this.


Listen to it in reverse!!
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Reply #15 posted 10/07/09 11:36pm

ernestsewell

midiscover said:

ernestsewell said:



No you can't "clearly" hear anything on the backwards stuff. As far as forward, the lyrics are there, read them. There was nothing backwards! Words don't just suddenly say something backwards AND forwards. Do you realize how difficult and time consuming that is to put together phonetically? I mean, COME ON. Get a grip on that one. So yes, I do know.

Hidden tracks and backwards bullshit are different. Everyone has a hidden track. It's common place almost. She's never pull some mysterious backwards stunt like this.


Listen to it in reverse!!

Reread my responses.
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Reply #16 posted 10/07/09 11:42pm

midiscover

ernestsewell said:

midiscover said:



Listen to it in reverse!!

Reread my responses.


So you haven't listened to it reverse.....
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Reply #17 posted 10/07/09 11:46pm

ernestsewell

midiscover said:

ernestsewell said:


Reread my responses.


So you haven't listened to it reverse.....


Reread my responses.
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Reply #18 posted 10/07/09 11:47pm

Timmy84

The backwards thing is very funny to me. Every time someone reverses a song, they always make me laugh. Like someone reversed songs by the Carpenters and I think a Captain and Tennille song was backwards and someone clearly thought they were saying "Oh I need some man to fuck back!" falloff
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Reply #19 posted 10/07/09 11:49pm

midiscover

ernestsewell said:

midiscover said:



So you haven't listened to it reverse.....


Reread my responses.


No need to.

I'll take that as a yes. So why pass judgment if you didn't give it a listen?
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Reply #20 posted 10/07/09 11:51pm

ernestsewell

midiscover said:

ernestsewell said:



Reread my responses.


No need to.

I'll take that as a yes. So why pass judgment if you didn't give it a listen?


Reread my responses.
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Reply #21 posted 10/07/09 11:56pm

Timmy84

I'm sorry, that was funny as fuck! lol

Are you serious, I didn't find the hidden message, she just sounds gibberish just like Led Zeppelin sounds gibberish.

I think I heard one track where someone actually did go backwards and then someone "forwarded" it and you can tell it was done backwards on purpose, lol
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Reply #22 posted 10/08/09 12:00am

midiscover

Timmy84 said:

I'm sorry, that was funny as fuck! lol

Are you serious, I didn't find the hidden message, she just sounds gibberish just like Led Zeppelin sounds gibberish.

I think I heard one track where someone actually did go backwards and then someone "forwarded" it and you can tell it was done backwards on purpose, lol


Have you listened to it in reverse from start to finish? I think people are just labeling this a coincidence because of the whole Illuminati (devil-worshiping) claim lol
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Reply #23 posted 10/08/09 12:18am

Timmy84

midiscover said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm sorry, that was funny as fuck! lol

Are you serious, I didn't find the hidden message, she just sounds gibberish just like Led Zeppelin sounds gibberish.

I think I heard one track where someone actually did go backwards and then someone "forwarded" it and you can tell it was done backwards on purpose, lol


Have you listened to it in reverse from start to finish? I think people are just labeling this a coincidence because of the whole Illuminati (devil-worshiping) claim lol


Man I ain't even trying to hear that. ohgoon lol
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Reply #24 posted 10/08/09 12:44am

ernestsewell

Timmy84 said:

midiscover said:



Have you listened to it in reverse from start to finish? I think people are just labeling this a coincidence because of the whole Illuminati (devil-worshiping) claim lol


Man I ain't even trying to hear that. ohgoon lol


God bless him for trying though. comfort
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Reply #25 posted 10/08/09 12:49am

Timmy84

ernestsewell said:

Timmy84 said:



Man I ain't even trying to hear that. ohgoon lol


God bless him for trying though. comfort

lol
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Reply #26 posted 10/08/09 1:03am

midiscover

Timmy84 said:

midiscover said:



Have you listened to it in reverse from start to finish? I think people are just labeling this a coincidence because of the whole Illuminati (devil-worshiping) claim lol


Man I ain't even trying to hear that. ohgoon lol


I was right smile
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Reply #27 posted 10/08/09 1:14am

Timmy84

midiscover said:

Timmy84 said:



Man I ain't even trying to hear that. ohgoon lol


I was right smile


That Illuminati stuff, I'll never get it, lol I still think Janet's talking gibberish backwards. I heard MJ's "Someone Put Your Hand Out", ironically the messages were "I miss you and I love you" allegedly, then again it's still gibberish, lol
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Reply #28 posted 10/08/09 5:12am

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Timmy84 said:

The backwards thing is very funny to me. Every time someone reverses a song, they always make me laugh. Like someone reversed songs by the Carpenters and I think a Captain and Tennille song was backwards and someone clearly thought they were saying "Oh I need some man to fuck back!" falloff


This was her first failed attempt at doing something for the hearing impaired...lol.
"Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth"
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Reply #29 posted 10/08/09 9:40am

ernestsewell

Timmy84 said:

midiscover said:



I was right smile


That Illuminati stuff, I'll never get it, lol I still think Janet's talking gibberish backwards. I heard MJ's "Someone Put Your Hand Out", ironically the messages were "I miss you and I love you" allegedly, then again it's still gibberish, lol


Reminds me of the same bit of nonsense when Michael Jackson & Mick Jagger sang "State of Shock". People were raving that if you spun the end of the song backwards, MJ kept saying "My name is Michael", and Mick Jagger said "Hey ni**er!" ("You got me in" forward). Now why would that be fake, yet Janet supposedly sing about angels be real? IT'S NONSENSE! Weak-minded people think that artists sit around and try to come up with something phonetically viable forward and backwards.

Believe me when I say this: There was no one deeper into the backward masking than yours truly back in the 80's. I was spinning EVERYTHING backwards, and "hearing stuff". ONCE I GREW UP, I realized it's all a bunch of hooey. As far as people still promoting this bullshit, it's like Led Zepplin said backwards, "There's no escaping it..." rolleyes
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